Diving instructor fighting for his life after stroke in Thailand

[samsensam]

8 hours ago, The manic said:

The NHS does not exist in every country! Anyway-it's rubish.

 

correct the NHS is the national health service in great britain,

 

however, the NHS is rubbish? sorry but you simply dont know what you are talking about. i'm not saying it's perfect but it is a wonderful organisation with many exceptional people working for it.

[samsensam]

 

back on topic, sad though the story is, i am amazed that people take the decision to not have insurance and then expect complete strangers to bail them out when the worst happens.

[scubascuba3]

 
back on topic, sad though the story is, i am amazed that people take the decision to not have insurance and then expect complete strangers to bail them out when the worst happens.

He had insurance but not enough it ran out, and to be fair at 39 you wouldn't expect a stroke

[Ulic]

I wish him well, hopefully someone will be able to negotiate

a lower rate with the hospital. As stated already when hospitals

see an insured Farang the rates go up. When the insurance coverage

figure runs out the daily rate of the hospital remains the same.

Perhaps a transfer to a public hospital now the initial operation

has been completed.

[anon789561]

it's an awful lot of money and a terrible situation to be in especially at that age. he's going to find it difficult to raise that kind of money. there is a bloke from northampton who has cash to burn and could do with trying to reverse some seriously bad karma. one wonders if he might step up and help a fellow brit in need???

[pearciderman]

9 hours ago, Muggi1968 said:

Yes and even better if you work and pay 750 bath/ month you can choose 1 private hospital for free treathment and free medicine.

 

If you pay for 6 month and stop working you keep the insurance for 422 baht/month.

 

Ofcause you need workpermit and have to pay tax to be accepted by the social security organization in thailand and it is only for employees. Not for an employer.

 

 

P.s not all private hospitals accept sso.

 

A little off, if you stop working you can continue coverage for 432 Baht per month, and also you have to choose at least 2 hospitals in your local area, whether either of them is private depends on what hospitals are in your area, you may have to choose a government hospital.

 

You do NOT have to pay tax to qualify for the Social security scheme.

[Tropicalevo]

6 hours ago, Ulic said:

I wish him well, hopefully someone will be able to negotiate

a lower rate with the hospital. As stated already when hospitals

see an insured Farang the rates go up. When the insurance coverage

figure runs out the daily rate of the hospital remains the same.

Perhaps a transfer to a public hospital now the initial operation

has been completed.

Not an option. There are no spare beds at Nathon Hospital. Patients in the corridors etc.

 

My business partner has tuberculosis (lots around on Samui at the moment) and they could not admit her at the hospital.

 

Good luck to the young lad.

[TheLobster]

Hope he pulls through. Although it may not seem it, lucky he did not have the stroke whilst diving.

[scubascuba3]

Hope he pulls through. Although it may not seem it, lucky he did not have the stroke whilst diving.

I had a bends/stroke during a dive in Egypt, luckily a decompression chamber wasn't too far away. I wonder whether his stroke was connected to the diving

[impulse]

I hope they're also looking toward his instructor accrediting agency to see if there is any insurance through them.  A 39 year old suffering a stroke sounds a lot like the bends or an embolism or otherwise related to his profession.

 

This is a great cautionary tale for anyone planning to go back home (or off to India) in lieu of holding insurance, in case they need medical treatment.  Also a warning to make sure your loved ones have access to your financials in case you're not able to do it for yourself.  You can have tons of insurance and lots of money in the bank, but it won't save your life in a country where treatment follows payment if nobody who's conscious can access it.  Or they may save your life because it's the law, but leave you in a bad state if you need additional treatment on an urgent schedule to prevent permanent effects.

 

Best wishes to the guy and his loved ones.

 

[TheLobster]

10 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

12 hours ago, TheLobster said:

Hope he pulls through. Although it may not seem it, lucky he did not have the stroke whilst diving.

I had a bends/stroke during a dive in Egypt, luckily a decompression chamber wasn't too far away. I wonder whether his stroke was connected to the diving

I was thinking that it is a bit young for a stroke. Does anyone know where the local decompression chambers are?

[scubascuba3]

I was thinking that it is a bit young for a stroke. Does anyone know where the local decompression chambers are?

When i worked on Koh Tao the nearest chamber was Phuket

 

[PoorSucker]

8 hours ago, TheLobster said:

I was thinking that it is a bit young for a stroke. Does anyone know where the local decompression chambers are?

Bangkok hospital on Samui has a decompression chamber.

[jinners]

On 9/9/2017 at 2:46 PM, 12DrinkMore said:

 

Actually he was insured, but it maxed out.

then he should have had better. No trying to be smart, but it's not an occupation without its known risks. Hope he recovers

[stevenl]

On 9/9/2017 at 10:09 PM, liveandletsdive said:

 

Sadly he cannot be transported or take a flight home as his condition is critical!!!.  Maybe he has personal savings but given his critical situation there is no way to access his personal finances.  We are all just coming together as a group of family and friends wanting to help a friend in need at a time of need.

Excellent when people come together and help others in need.

 

But how come he did not have social insurance coverage? Was he legally employed?

[stevenl]

On 9/10/2017 at 4:04 PM, impulse said:

I hope they're also looking toward his instructor accrediting agency to see if there is any insurance through them.  A 39 year old suffering a stroke sounds a lot like the bends or an embolism or otherwise related to his profession.

 

This is a great cautionary tale for anyone planning to go back home (or off to India) in lieu of holding insurance, in case they need medical treatment.  Also a warning to make sure your loved ones have access to your financials in case you're not able to do it for yourself.  You can have tons of insurance and lots of money in the bank, but it won't save your life in a country where treatment follows payment if nobody who's conscious can access it.  Or they may save your life because it's the law, but leave you in a bad state if you need additional treatment on an urgent schedule to prevent permanent effects.

 

Best wishes to the guy and his loved ones.

 

"I hope they're also looking toward his instructor accrediting agency to see if there is any insurance through them."

Highly unlikely he had insurance through PADI or SSI, the 2 most likely agencies.

[3NUMBAS]

many strokes are when you are asleep  .take an aspirin before retiring

 

stroke units in the UK have guys of all ages and many have no bad habits a stroke can hit even very healthy  guys for no apparent reason

Edited September 15, 2017 by 3NUMBAS

[scubascuba3]

many strokes are when you are asleep  .take an aspirin before retiring
 
stroke units in the UK have guys of all ages and many have no bad habits a stroke can hit even very healthy  guys for no apparent reason

I was listening to a Dr the other day talk about this in the UK. If someone has already had a stroke yes they suggest an Aspirin a day, but if no stroke then they don't recommend it and in fact are taking people off aspirin due to side effects.

[Nong Khai Man]

I Thought it was ONLY Thai's that could have the 30 Baht Insurance scheme ???