New police vehicles found with defects

[DavisH]

5 hours ago, Nigeone said:

Contrary to other poster these are police cars !! Isle of Man TT 2017 BAC Mono and top of the range Mustang 

Thailand don't need no 'stang. They aren't all that interested in chasing and arresting anyone really. 

[lvr181]

The 'defects' were the drivers? 

 

[lvr181]

These are Police cars (pursuit vehicles)

 

 

Not a Toyota or Isuzu in sight nor a Mustang! 

Edited September 27, 2017 by lvr181
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[PETERTHEEATER]

6 hours ago, AhFarangJa said:

The biggest defects are the people driving them.....

Tut tut! Politically incorrect! You mean the Steering Wheel/Seat Interface Unit.....

[impulse]

I think Dubai's got the prize.

 

When I first read about their cop cars, I thought it was ridiculous.  But then someone explained why they chose them, and it was pretty clever.  But I'll let others do their own Googling.

[Briggsy]

10 hours ago, tracker1 said:

Reading the article one would think oh major manufacturing defects when in reallity the defects are after market work eg signage wireing and unoperable sirens !

Indeed. And no mention of who the contractor is. Surprise surprise. I know of one large international firm here who undertakes precisely this work but it is export only.

 

It would have to be a connected local firm. The police are not going to hand out contracts of this value to unconnected firms.

[Cadbury]

13 minutes ago, Briggsy said:

 

Indeed. And no mention of who the contractor is. Surprise surprise. I know of one large international firm here who undertakes precisely this work but it is export only.

 

It would have to be a connected local firm. The police are not going to hand out contracts of this value to unconnected firms.

I suspect the quality of the contractor is inversely proportional to the size of the envelope.

The formula:

Where "x" is the quality of the contractor and "y" is the size of the envelope.

[dcnx]

9 hours ago, Thian said:

They should have let Toyota do all the installing of sirens and so.

If i was Toyota i wouldn't give any warranty on the cars if some uneducated persons had been messing with the wiring.

What could possibly go wrong when using Somchai Sound?

[lvr181]

2 hours ago, PETERTHEEATER said:

Tut tut! Politically incorrect! You mean the Steering Wheel/Seat Interface Unit.....

555 or the 'nut' holding the steering wheel? 

[Jonmarleesco]

12 hours ago, webfact said:

New police vehicles found with defects

By Chalarntorn Yothasmutra

 

 

BANGKOK: -- Pol Gen Chakthip Chaijinda, the police chief, has ordered concerned authorities to check 7,000 newly-acquired patrol cars for use in the police service after several defects and mistakes have been found on them.

 

The 7,000 new patrol cars are one of the seven projects approved for the Royal Thai Police by the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO)-installed government.

 

The vehicles, acquired through hire-purchase under a five-year contract with Toyota and Isuzu dealers, are set to be distributed to police units throughout the country between Sept 23-Sept 28.

 

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/new-police-vehicles-found-defects/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2017-09-27

 

New RTP vehicles found with defects. Seems apposite.

[Just Weird]

11 hours ago, Techno Viking said:

misleading article, defects are nothing to do with Toyota or Isuzu.

Why not, Toyota and Isuzu supplied them to police specification..."The defects are found only on some vehicles because the companies [that's Toyota and Isuzu] handed over them to the RTP in a rush".

[Just Weird]

10 hours ago, Thian said:

They should have let Toyota do all the installing of sirens and so.

If i was Toyota i wouldn't give any warranty on the cars if some uneducated persons had been messing with the wiring.

Toyota and Isuzu supplied them, no one was messing with them.

[Just Weird]

8 hours ago, alant said:

Interesting that they have been purchased on the never never and how does that effect the defects?

In no way at all.

[lvr181]

This is a car

 

This is a van

 

Both are vehicles.

The journalist from Thai PBS has eye problems?  They are police vehicles or police vans NOT cars, Mr/Mrs/Ms journalist. 

[Just Weird]

2 minutes ago, lvr181 said:

This is a car

 

This is a van

 

Both are vehicles.

The journalist from Thai PBS has eye problems?  They are police vehicles or police vans NOT cars, Mr/Mrs/Ms journalist. 

 

...and this is one of the Thai police patrol cars that was being referred to as well as the vans, the writer's eyesight is fine.   Yes, it's a pickup , but they're not called police patrol pickups.

[lvr181]

19 minutes ago, Just Weird said:

 

...and this is one of the Thai police patrol cars that was being referred to as well as the vans, the writer's eyesight is fine.   Yes, it's a pickup , but they're not called police patrol pickups.

555. The OP photo does not show pickups either. And a pickup is still not a car.  Perhaps Thai PBS needs a proof reader if they are going to publish in English?  Rhetorical question. Your answer not required. 

[Briggsy]

1 hour ago, Just Weird said:

Toyota and Isuzu supplied them, no one was messing with them.

I think you are under a misapprehension. Vehicle manufacturers rarely undertake work to modify their own vehicles for specialised use ( ambulance, police, military, desert, off-road, armoured, etc.) There are specialist firms that undertake this work. Large assembly line manufacturers like Toyota, Isuzu, etc. will not be willing to set up a special area with all the necessary tooling, having carried out all the necessary R & D, potentially incurring costly warranty issues.

 

The supply chain is Vehicle Manufacturer --> Specialist Vehicle Modification Company --> Customer

 

What has happened here is the Modification Company has messed up. What will happen is that company will then blame the producer of the sirens rather than accept the blame for messing up the wiring and installation.

 

Nothing to do with Toyota or Isuzu.

[Just Weird]

Just now, Briggsy said:

I think you are under a misapprehension. Vehicle manufacturers rarely undertake work to modify their own vehicles for specialised use ( ambulance, police, military, desert, off-road, armoured, etc.) There are specialist firms that undertake this work. Large assembly line manufacturers like Toyota, Isuzu, etc. will not be willing to set up a special area with all the necessary tooling, having carried out all the necessary R & D, potentially incurring costly warranty issues.

 

The supply chain is Vehicle Manufacturer --> Specialist Vehicle Modification Company --> Customer

 

What has happened here is the Modification Company has messed up. What will happen is that company will then blame the producer of the sirens rather than accept the blame for messing up the wiring and installation.

 

Nothing to do with Toyota or Isuzu.

Well, that's just your opinion, nothing to do with fact and I am under no misapprehension. 

 

No specialist suppliers were mentioned in the original article whereas the companies that supplied the vehicles were specifically mentioned and car manufacturers frequently do supply fleets of vehicles to specialist specification.  The supply chain is Toyota/Isuzu to the customer in this case.

[Techno Viking]

1 hour ago, Just Weird said:

Why not, Toyota and Isuzu supplied them to police specification..."The defects are found only on some vehicles because the companies [that's Toyota and Isuzu] handed over them to the RTP in a rush".

Nah not a chance.

 

Mods are done by a 3rd party.

[Just Weird]

Just now, Techno Viking said:

Nah not a chance.

 

Mods are done by a 3rd party.

Not necessarily.

[Techno Viking]

1 minute ago, Just Weird said:

Not necessarily.

Prove me wrong, we as a 3rd party put in for the tender and did not win.

[Just Weird]

Just now, Techno Viking said:

Prove me wrong, we as a 3rd party put in for the tender and did not win.

Why?  You prove me wrong, I can read the article. 

 

Who is "we"?

[Techno Viking]

1 minute ago, Just Weird said:

Why?  You prove me wrong, I can read the article. 

 

Who is "we"?

We = the company I work for.

[aussie11950]

So the defects were for the items added after the vehicles were finished.

Hmm poor quality control or "Mai pben rai"

 

 

[Just Weird]

6 minutes ago, Techno Viking said:

We = the company I work for.

As I said, I can read.  Which company?

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

1 hour ago, lvr181 said:

This is a car

 

This is a van

 

Both are vehicles.

The journalist from Thai PBS has eye problems?  They are police vehicles or police vans NOT cars, Mr/Mrs/Ms journalist. 

 

The article says police "cars," and the photo with it shows some kind of "vans."

 

I have no idea which kind of vehicles the RPT actually acquired here, cars or vans.  Would be kind of nice to know which.

 

 

[Briggsy]

35 minutes ago, Techno Viking said:

We = the company I work for.

I agree

 

I also have worked in this industry in Thailand.

 

The specialist modifications would almost certainly not have been done by the vehicle manufacturer for the reasons I stated earlier and the way the whole industry is structured.

[NanLaew]

19 hours ago, lvr181 said:

These are Police cars (pursuit vehicles)

 

 

Not a Toyota or Isuzu in sight nor a Mustang! 

Lamborghini Aventador in Vietnam? Seriously? They must have at most about 500 km of motorway and most of that is outside Hanoi.

 

18 hours ago, impulse said:

I think Dubai's got the prize.

 

When I first read about their cop cars, I thought it was ridiculous.  But then someone explained why they chose them, and it was pretty clever.  But I'll let others do their own Googling.

Yes! Their Veyron does indeed take the biscuit.