Verdict due in trial of Thailand's missing ex-PM Yingluck

[craigt3365]

Let's see if the PM keeps his promise and tells us where she is now that the verdict is out. LOL

[MickTurator]

3 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

Let's see if the PM keeps his promise and tells us where she is now that the verdict is out. LOL

He'll probably say she is in deep shit

[silent]

3 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

"Although the court has scheduled the verdict reading for 9am, it is expected to be delayed as the judicial panel first has to confer and reach a consensus.

 

The reading could take hours as the judges would cite accounts and evidence provided by witnesses of both the plaintiff and the defendant before handing down the final ruling."

 

Why don't they do all of this before they schedule the verdict reading?

Why schedule a time to read the verdict before you have reached a verdict?

Because they plan on at least becoming the drama hub of SEA if the other hubs don't get greased.

[eeworldwide]

5 years I think.

[4MyEgo]

 

 

[NanLaew]

32 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

She's guilty.  5 years in jail. 

You think?

 

5 minutes ago, eeworldwide said:

5 years I think.

You think?

[eeworldwide]

1 minute ago, NanLaew said:

You think?

 

You think?

 

Whats wrong with you mate? I'm just stating what I thought I heard, before I actually read it. 

 

Do you have something meaningful to contribute?

[NanLaew]

Guilty, 5 years. Official.

[craigt3365]

4 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Guilty, 5 years. Official.

Let the fireworks begin. LOL

[sawadee1947]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Verdict due in trial of Thailand's missing ex-PM Yingluck

By Aukkarapon Niyomyat

 

FILE PHOTO: Ousted former Thai prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra greets supporters as she arrives at the Supreme Court in Bangkok, Thailand, August 1, 2017. REUTERS/Athit Perawongmetha/File photo

 

BANGKOK (Reuters) - Thailand's Supreme Court is expected to deliver a verdict on Wednesday in a negligence trial involving former Thai prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra, who fled abroad last month fearing that the military government would seek a harsh sentence.

 

Yingluck, whose government was ousted by the military in 2014, could be sentenced to as much as 10 years in prison if found guilty of negligence over a costly rice subsidy scheme that helped to bring her to power in an election in 2011.

 

Yingluck had pleaded innocent and had accused the military government of political persecution.

 

The clash between Thailand's traditional elite, including the army and affluent Bangkok-based upper classes, and the Shinawatra family, which includes Yingluck's brother, former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, who was ousted in a 2006 coup, have dominated Thai politics for more than a decade.

 

The Shinawatras commanded huge support by courting rural voters, helping them to win every general election since 2001, but their foes accused them of corruption and nepotism.

 

Under the rice scheme, Yingluck's government bought rice from farmers at above-market prices, leading to stockpiles of the grain and distorted global prices of the commodity. Losses amounted to $8 billion, the military government has said.

 

Although police said they expected no security issues, some 300 officers were deployed at the court, while a Reuters reporter saw just 50 supporters of Yingluck there.

 

That was far fewer than on Aug. 25, when the court was originally scheduled to deliver its verdict, only to find out that Yingluck had fled the country.

 

"It doesn't matter if Yingluck doesn't show up today. I'll always come to support her because I love her," said Thuanphit Srichan, 60, a retiree from Pathum Thani province north of Bangkok.

 

Though her whereabouts has not been disclosed by either her aides or the junta, Reuters reported last month that she had fled to Dubai where Thaksin has a home and lives in self-imposed exile to avoid a 2008 jail sentence for corruption.

 

The leader of the military junta, Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha, said on Tuesday he knows where Yingluck is but would reveal it until after the verdict is read.

 

Yingluck's lawyer, Sommai Koosap, told Reuters outside the court on Wednesday that he has not heard from Yingluck since her departure from Thailand.

 

"We've done our best. We have fought according to the law ... the result now is up to the court," Sommai told Reuters.

 

Yingluck, who was previously active on social media, has not commented publicly since disappearing from public view.

 

Her Puea Thai Party has said that the party does not know where she is.

 

Thai authorities investigating how Yingluck escaped said last week they have questioned three police officers who admitted to helping her.

 

A former commerce minister in her government was jailed for 42 years last month for falsifying government-to-government rice deals in connection with the subsidy scheme.

 

(Additional reporting by Amy Sawitta Lefevre, Panarat Thepgumpanat and Suphanida Thakral; Writing by Patpicha Tanakasempipat; Editing by Amy Sawitta Lefevre and Simon Cameron-Moore)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2017-09-27

If the judges under Prayut would be intelligent there will be no sentence. No fine, no jail. This will be definitely the end of all stories and questions around her. Her influence would be zero, but as a martyr she got still the power together with Thaksin to interfere in Thai politics and "lead" the party.

[Happyman58]

I will have a wild guess at the Verdit "Guilty"

[NanLaew]

For those that have difficulties with embedded links...

 

http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/2017/09/27/court-finds-yingluck-guilty-absentia-sentences-former-prime-minister-5-years/

[Toknarok]

The BBC has just reported her 5 year sentence.

[Toshiba66]

If she stayed around and actually got sentenced I would guess she would not serve all of those years out and would be kept pretty comfy. Wouldn't that be better than being on the run for the rest of your life?

[NanLaew]

7 minutes ago, Toshiba66 said:

If she stayed around and actually got sentenced I would guess she would not serve all of those years out and would be kept pretty comfy. Wouldn't that be better than being on the run for the rest of your life?

Remember the guy who did stay around and went to court last month expecting a similar 5 to 10 year sentence and ended up with 42 years?

 

Had she shown up, the judges could have pulled a double digit number out of their <deleted> and it would not have been 10 either.

 

I reckon she's in for the long game, like her brother.

[LannaGuy]

No fair thinking, intelligent person will see this as justice by a court sponsored by an unelected Military Junta. Thais don't buy it, international opinion don't buy it and nor should YOU.

[Currumbin]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Police tighten security around Supreme Court

By The Nation

 

 

The Metropolitan Police Bureau on Wednesday deployed two companies of policemen at the Supreme Court.

 

Pol Maj-General Phanurat Lakboon, deputy commissioner of the bureau, said the police were deployed to maintain security ahead of the verdict reading in the rice-pledging case against former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra.

 

Phanura said police expect some 300 supporters of the former prime minister at the court to hear the verdict.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30327799

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2017-09-27

That is the Maj-General in the fur coat.

[BuaBS]

The good news is : Guilty and 5 years in prison

Bad news , it's not 10 years and she escaped

 

Btw : where is the 35 billion THB she owes ??

[LannaGuy]

29 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

If the judges under Prayut would be intelligent there will be no sentence. No fine, no jail. This will be definitely the end of all stories and questions around her. Her influence would be zero, but as a martyr she got still the power together with Thaksin to interfere in Thai politics and "lead" the party.

Correct!  but martyr she is and dearly loved by most Thais. All this will do is spring her to sainthood - deserved or undeserved - and she will be a  shining light to most Thais.

 

The Junta tried to jail her and failed. It's that simple.

[Currumbin]

2 minutes ago, LannaGuy said:

No fair thinking, intelligent person will see this as justice by a court sponsored by an unelected Military Junta. Thais don't buy it, international opinion don't buy it and nor should YOU.

Can't beat them at the ballot box so they have the army intervene, round up all the popular leaders,  charge them with BS offences so that when they are convicted they are automatically disqualified from holding any public or political office ever again. Threat removed.Problem solved.

[BHW]

Guilty 5 years jail as reported in Australian press.

[chrisinth]

This is a lose - lose situation for all in my opinion.

 

Give this a little time to sink in and I reckon we will see trouble brewing with the masses.................

 

Or at least the agitators anyway.

[realenglish1]

JUST IN BREAKING  Thai court finds former PM Yingluck guilty; sentenced in absentia to five years

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/27/yingluck-shinawatra-ex-thai-pm-sentenced-to-five-years-in-jail

[NanLaew]

7 minutes ago, realenglish1 said:

JUST IN BREAKING  Thai court finds former PM Yingluck guilty; sentenced in absentia to five years

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/27/yingluck-shinawatra-ex-thai-pm-sentenced-to-five-years-in-jail

Slow news day?

[janclaes47]

1 hour ago, eeworldwide said:

1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

You think?

 

You think?

 

Whats wrong with you mate? I'm just stating what I thought I heard, before I actually read it. 

 

Do you have something meaningful to contribute?

 

Didn't you know that poster considers himself THE authority on this forum?

[Ossy]

If I was the Court - presumably under some measure of influence from Prayuth - I would pass a sentence that would both financially hurt Yingluck - she did drop an expensive clanger when all said and done - and also and, more crucially, test her loyalty to the cause and 'her people' of North and Northeast Thailand.

 

How about the maximum fine, plus seizure of assets (determined by her personal wealth) to, in part, compensate for the rice-subsidy losses and imprison her, in a 'normal' prison, for two years.

 

My question is . . . would her loyalty to her people make her return, if at the above cost? Or might the comforts of Saudi, or wherever, have already started weaving their spell?

 

The Court has, whilst I was sketching out my master-plan, sentenced her, in absentia, to 5 years.

 

She won't be back on those terms.

Edited September 27, 2017 by Ossy
clarity

[barsie]

4 minutes ago, Ossy said:

If I was the Court - presumably under some measure of influence from Prayuth - I would pass a sentence that would both financially hurt Yingluck - she did drop an expensive clanger when all said and done - and also and, more crucially, test her loyalty to the cause and 'her people' of North and Northeast Thailand.

 

How about the maximum fine, plus seizure of assets (determined by her personal wealth) to, in part, compensate for the rice-subsidy losses and imprison her, in a 'normal' prison, for two years.

 

My question is . . . would her loyalty to her people make her return, if at the above cost? Or might the comforts of Saudi, or wherever, have already started weaving their spell?

 

Commentating when you don't even know any facts.

 

Her declared personal wealth is tiny, around 40m baht. So she's not even a millionaire.

[bazza73]

16 minutes ago, barsie said:

 

Commentating when you don't even know any facts.

 

Her declared personal wealth is tiny, around 40m baht. So she's not even a millionaire.

At the current exchange rate of 33.3 baht to the US dollar, yes she is.

[NeilSA1]

 

As stated, if Yingluck has 40 000 000 baht, then she is a millionaire. Must a person's wealth be converted to USD in every instance to establish if that person is a millionaire? A little arrogant, no?

"A millionaire is an individual whose net worth or wealth is equal to or exceeds one million units of currency."

Arrogant - "having or revealing an exaggerated sense of one's own importance or abilities"

[sambum]

"The leader of the military junta, Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha, said on Tuesday he knows where Yingluck is but would reveal it until after the verdict is read." Presumably the word NOT should be in between "would" and "reveal"?

And it appears that he knows more than Yingluck's lawyer:- 

 

"Yingluck's lawyer, Sommai Koosap, told Reuters outside the court on Wednesday that he has not heard from Yingluck since her departure from Thailand."

 

"Who would help Yingluck escape?"