RichinThailand Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Boon Mee said: Uh...better check with Kim Rocket Man who is the threat here bud... Don't be too sure that Trump is not the threat. If they get close to prosecuting him or his family for all the Russia collusion, then he will have to do something big to deflect from that action. And attacking North Korea would be a real deflection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boon Mee Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 6 minutes ago, RichinThailand said: Don't be too sure that Trump is not the threat. If they get close to prosecuting him or his family for all the Russia collusion, then he will have to do something big to deflect from that action. And attacking North Korea would be a real deflection. Please try to keep up? The Russia thing is a big fat nothing burger... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxo1947 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 1 hour ago, wayned said: But you respect someone who comes from a rich family that got a note from his doctor so that he didn't have to serve in the military and possibly go to Vietnam because he had sore feet! He is not exactly alone amongst the last 25 years of presidents...not to join the military is he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Boon Mee said: Politics should have nothing to do with sports - full stop. Racial Problems? That's the bit we like about the Obama Era - all the Racial Healing... The pentagon pays sports team bosses millions of dollars to drum up patriotism, but that's a side issue. Yes, there are racial problems in the US. Among other things, black men get shot dead for no good reason by cops at traffic stops - and the cops get off with a slap on the wrist. Sportsmen are exercising their right to peaceful protest. Protests aren't designed to be pleasant to everyone. The Boston Tea Party wasn't designed to please everyone. I don't agree with all protests, but I support Americans' right to peaceful protests. I even support White Supremacists to protest peacefully, even though I abhor their agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomwct Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 NFL is now the least favored Pro Sports Organization according to a new poll this week.. The real problem will be next year when people will not renew their season tickets and turn off the dial to the TV. I am sure if some could get refunds on their season tickets they would request refunds. College football will be the beneficiary of the disgraced NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boon Mee Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Just now, tomwct said: NFL is now the least favored Pro Sports Organization according to a new poll this week.. The real problem will be next year when people will not renew their season tickets and turn off the dial to the TV. I am sure if some could get refunds on their season tickets they would request refunds. College football will be the beneficiary of the disgraced NFL. People keep saying college ball will be more popular although attendance at those games seems to be dwindling too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thakkar Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Pence makes me sick with his political protest during a football game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boon Mee Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Just now, Thakkar said: Pence makes me sick with his political protest during a football game! Perhaps he just didn't care for overpaid athletes making a mockery out of the National Anthem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boon Mee Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 "Cowboys Owner Jerry Jones has had it with anthem protests. Just how tired of it is he? Tired enough that Jones has now publicly said that if his team doesn’t respect the flag, they’re not going to play. Jones was asked by Brandon George of the Dallas Morning News, about two Cowboys players who raised their fists at the end of the anthem. Jones said he did not see the raised fists. But then, Jones made a definitive statement about how he wants to see his team to handle the anthem from now on." http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/10/08/jerry-jones-cowboys-players-will-stand-for-the-national-anthem/ That's the way it's gotta be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl sees all Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) It will all sort itself out. The paying customers and the sponsors will have their say. TV ratings are god! The owners then have to make decisions. The players might be asked to stop or get out!! Edited October 9, 2017 by owl sees all added more content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamahele Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Boon Mee said: Excellent move on VPN Pence's part. No support for those who disrespect the flag or the Police. Actually it was a pre-arranged stunt confirmed by both Trump and the press corp that was told not to bother getting out of the van at the stadium. So taxpayers footed the bill to fly him there for this stunt at something like a quarter of a million dollars. Busy draining the swamp.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamahele Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Boon Mee said: What expense? You reckon VP Pence was comped the tickets? Right move on his and Trump's part... Um, he was flown there on a government aircraft, secret service protection etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boon Mee Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 1 minute ago, kamahele said: Actually it was a pre-arranged stunt confirmed by both Trump and the press corp that was told not to bother getting out of the van at the stadium. So taxpayers footed the bill to fly him there for this stunt at something like a quarter of a million dollars. Busy draining the swamp.... Well, it was a good 'stunt' then wasn't it? More focus on these unpatriotic multimillionaire players... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamahele Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 3 hours ago, ezzra said: The day that these "racial minorities" mainly blacks, will start respect the law and order of the land they kneeling on and not make the police the targets of their hate and loathing, this act will start to have meaning... Surely this was meant as sarcasm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boon Mee Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, kamahele said: Surely this was meant as sarcasm.... Maybe not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thakkar Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 17 minutes ago, Boon Mee said: Perhaps he just didn't care for overpaid athletes making a mockery out of the National Anthem? Where was Pence the patriot when: Trump disrespected a POW Trump disrespected a gold star family Trump insinuated that PTSD was a weakness Trump insulted both men and women of the military by saying rape was inevitable where men and women both serve together Trump proposed banning transgender soldiers who have risked their lives for the country? Where was his patriotism when, as head of the transition, he hired Flynn despite being warned that Flynn was a security risk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 38 minutes ago, tomwct said: NFL is now the least favored Pro Sports Organization according to a new poll this week.. The real problem will be next year when people will not renew their season tickets and turn off the dial to the TV. I am sure if some could get refunds on their season tickets they would request refunds. College football will be the beneficiary of the disgraced NFL. Don't worry...poll the same people 6 months from now and many will give a No Opinion answer as they have nearly forgot about the issue. Many people have the attention span of an infant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 11 minutes ago, Boon Mee said: "Cowboys Owner Jerry Jones has had it with anthem protests. Just how tired of it is he? Tired enough that Jones has now publicly said that if his team doesn’t respect the flag, they’re not going to play. Jones was asked by Brandon George of the Dallas Morning News, about two Cowboys players who raised their fists at the end of the anthem. Jones said he did not see the raised fists. But then, Jones made a definitive statement about how he wants to see his team to handle the anthem from now on." Jones is one man. There are dozens of other team owners. 3 minutes ago, Boon Mee said: Well, it was a good 'stunt' then wasn't it? More focus on these unpatriotic multimillionaire players... Perhaps a 'good stunt' from Trump's hard-core supporters' view. To the vast majority of Americans, it was ignorance in action. Pence is standing under a dump truck of shit. We don't hear much about Pence's problems now, and here's why: Mueller's team is working from the bottom up - same as investigators into mafia law-breaking. They're scrutinizing Manafort, Cohen, Pence and some other lower-downs, but they're working their way up to Don Jr, Ivanka, Jared, and Trump Sr. We must be patient. My main hope is Mueller's team won't be fired or be compelled to come out with a lukewarm assessment, which chooses not to see all the law-breaking by Pence, Trump and the raft of other Anti-American criminals in the WH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphGB Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Blacks need to respect the country that has made them great. They'd be nothing without the USA. This is a country that allows them to become millionaires for throwing a ball around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydeco Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 41 minutes ago, tomwct said: NFL is now the least favored Pro Sports Organization according to a new poll this week.. The real problem will be next year when people will not renew their season tickets and turn off the dial to the TV. I am sure if some could get refunds on their season tickets they would request refunds. College football will be the beneficiary of the disgraced NFL. The NFL and its players have shot their own foot off. Americans were already losing interest in this particular sports product and, now, its decline will become a cliff rather than a gentle slope. The players tried to enforce their views on the NFL's fans and the country and now they have lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Keep in mind that Pence is preforming an important job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boon Mee Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, zydeco said: The NFL and its players have shot their own foot off. Americans were already losing interest in this particular sports product and, now, its decline will become a cliff rather than a gentle slope. The players tried to enforce their views on the NFL's fans and the country and now they have lost. That's right and Pence was just doing his bit to shine light on the subject of sports and politics. They don't have any rhyme or reason to co-mingle. Same as Hollywood 'celebrities' need to keep their gobs shut and focus on their particular jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonMeu Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I just wonder how many games he has attended in the past. This had to be a political thing set up by his boss. Do you think he paid for the tickets?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slip Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Quote A top government watchdog blasted Vice President Mike Pence for using government travel to go to an Indianapolis Colts game Sunday that he quickly left. http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/354476-ethics-watchdog-blasts-pence-for-use-of-government-travel-to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Miller Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 3 hours ago, chrisinth said: if the ceremony is only to honor the US flag and military veterans, why is it played at NFL matches? To nitpick reasons why the national anthem is played is childish and wars on words are not the way to sort out the problems that have started this protest in the first place. There is a problem, it has been pointed out to the administration and has not been acted on except for criticism of those protesting, those that are protected by the first amendment. IMO, mention of military veterans in instances like this, in an issue regarding the police, is disrespectful in itself. Views from a non-American. You are so right. US military and veterans are in no manner being "disrespected". It is also Pence's right, as a private person, to voice his opinion. Trump, on the other hand, has possibly violated Constitutional protections by stating that the NFL should fire the protestors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardrunner Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 3 hours ago, Boon Mee said: Excellent move on VPN Pence's part. No support for those who disrespect the flag or the Police. as a non American i can see that you should not disrespect your flag as i would hate seeing the Union Jack shown disrespect but the police are another matter, they have to earn and keep respect by their own actions the way the RTP do and not by shooting unarmed civilians of whatever race and colour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farq Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 4 hours ago, ezzra said: The day that these "racial minorities" mainly blacks, will start respect the law and order of the land they kneeling on and not make the police the targets of their hate and loathing, this act will start to have meaning... Currently, the "law and order" in the US is out of control and has been militarised and have lost any respect that they may have previously had due to the murdering and thuggery of not only the "racial minorities" but the citizenry in general. The police are only the targets of hate and loathing because of their violent manner towards all people, and until they stop treating everybody like the enemy and disrespecting people, they will never get any respect. Respect should be EARNED not DEMANDED. Everybody has the right to express their views and these players and anybody else is entitled to kneel in support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 4 hours ago, ezzra said: The day that these "racial minorities" mainly blacks, will start respect the law and order of the land they kneeling on and not make the police the targets of their hate and loathing, this act will start to have meaning... This act has already a meaning but some people will never get it. The action is against the killing of innocent people by the police. The racists make it about the flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thakkar Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 21 minutes ago, Slip said: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/354476-ethics-watchdog-blasts-pence-for-use-of-government-travel-to It’s worse than that. If the stunt were successful instead of an embarrassment, he would’ve (and may yet) use this tax payer funded stunt to raise money for his election campaigns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thakkar Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) 9/10/17, 06:47 If you're leaving any event featuring individuals who've disrespected our soldiers, you should walk out of the Oval Office when next there. twitter.com/vp/status/9170… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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