BEngBKK Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Hi Do anybody know a good web site where you can register a Thai company for fraud. My company was lately conned for 12000 EUR by a Thai woman who own a company in Bangkok. The attorney have decided to go to court but also tell us that the money is lost since she have done this to other companies before. We think it is our duty to warm other people about this woman... Since we have a fake check from this woman and the bank tell us that it is fake , we can easily prove that she is a criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Police office where the crime was committed is your first stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcab Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Be careful. If you expose her on the internet she will be able to get the police to charge you with criminal defamation and a computer crime act charge. It doesn't matter that you are telling the truth and that you can prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee4Life Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 8 hours ago, blackcab said: Be careful. If you expose her on the internet she will be able to get the police to charge you with criminal defamation and a computer crime act charge. It doesn't matter that you are telling the truth and that you can prove it. This is exactly right, the sad part is that you cannot tell anyone specific details about it and cannot name the company because of fears of being sued for defamation. It does not matter if it is the truth, if they can prove you caused them a loss of reputation (face) they will win. Also if you wait too long the company will only have to pay you small monthly amount in retribution, if you win and they have the funds that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expat_4_life Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 There is a Thai Consumer protection website, don't have it to hand. I've seen it discussed here on the forums before. You may have to file a civil suit ... you could go to one of the local law offices. From what I've experienced most give a free consultation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estrada Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 It's the Office of Consumer Protection, and it is downstairs below Thai Immigration Office at the Government Complex Laksi Bangkok. You can make a complaint online in English, here: http://www.ocpb.go.th/ewtadmin/ewt/ocpb_eng/main.php?filename=index___EN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Does not sound like a consumer matter. Sounds like a business transaction. So no actual real debt collection agencies or small claims courts to go through? OP surely you have more info. You are allowed to explain the issue you just cannot name the suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hgma Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 19 hours ago, tonray said: Police office where the crime was committed is your first stop. disagree.....the first person you see is a lawyer,as it is civil law, not criminal...... Then i personally think that the amount you lost doesn't weigh the costs and stress of Thainess in the judicial process... i have been there........and retreated !. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quandow Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 And THIS is one of the many reasons it's so difficult for the rest of the world to feel comfortable doing business with the LOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 5 hours ago, expat_4_life said: There is a Thai Consumer protection website, don't have it to hand. I've seen it discussed here on the forums before. You may have to file a civil suit ... you could go to one of the local law offices. From what I've experienced most give a free consultation. The consumer group is useless. i wrote to them about CTH trying to rip me off, they said they'd get back to me within a month, and that was two years ago. They probably did what I did, write to CTH, and when CTH ignored them as they did me they took it no further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwapofarmer Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Of course this is a criminal matter and you should go and see the police in her location. Whether they will do anything is a completely different matter. But from their reaction you should be able to tell whether they are protecting her or not. Try to meet with the chief of police first. Ask him for guidance how to proceed and take it from there. Some are helpful, some are not. Luck of the draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smotherb Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Or you could pound sand down a rat hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstevens Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 A fake cheque is a criminal matter. Make a complaint to the local police station. In Thailand this is a substantial amount of money so I'd expect they would pursue the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 OP, My advice to you is to cut your losses. As the so called Fraud was a business transaction, it is deemed as a " Breech of Contract ", and not Fraud. The Police will have zero interest in this matter as nobody was murdered, and will tell you to seek a Lawyer. The Lawyer will tell you that its possible to get your money, then charge you an arm and a leg, only to tell you down the line that the Company has got bust and " Sorry, nothing can be done ". Been there, done it and got the t-shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcab Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 On 21/10/2017 at 4:16 PM, BEngBKK said: Since we have a fake check from this woman and the bank tell us that it is fake , we can easily prove that she is a criminal. Writing a cheque that is presented to a bank when there are insufficient funds to pay the payee or bearer at the time of presentation is a criminal offence in Thailand. This is why some people will say you should accept their cheque as a deposit because they are not going to risk a criminal charge by defaulting. However... If the cheque is cancelled after it is handed over by the drawer, but before it is presented to a bank then there is no criminal case to answer. It is simply a contractual dispute. With our online business banking I can cancel a business cheque within 30 seconds, using my phone - much faster than anyone could get to a bank. This is why a cheque should not be accepted as payment until it has cleared. As a business you can pay for express clearing if you have to, and for a 12,000 Euro payment this would be a good option. Either that or insist on a bank cheque. They cost 25 baht and can be obtained very easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foozool Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 OP said it was a "Fake" check. If it was a fake paper check that was made like a real check then it is a police business. But if the check was not good because it was canceled earlier or account had no sufficient fund then it is a lawyer job to go after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcab Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 3 hours ago, Foozool said: But if the check was not good because it was canceled earlier or account had no sufficient fund then it is a lawyer job to go after. If the account had insufficient funds it's a police matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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