Visa & Work Permit Cancellation Questions Please

[JimMorris]

Is there a standard letter often used by employers for the Work Permit cancellation?

Is a separate letter of cancellation required for the associated visa to hand into the immigration department too?

I understand you will have 7 days to leave the country from the date of work termination as specified in the letter from your employer, is this correct?

I also saw the form on the link below issued by the Department Of Employment. Can this form be used in lieu of the letter of cancellation of employment from an employer? Or does it need to accompany the letter?

Or is the form not necessary at all?

http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=73178277319435923998

[tonray]

You, the Employee cancels the Work Permit by government form available at the Labor Ministry.

 

There is no 7 day grace period. If you cancel you permission to stay at Immigration, you just leave within 24 hours of the date of your employment termination in the letter. Get Employer to postdate a letter to the day you can leave.

 

Minstry of Labor: Cancel Work Permit

 

Immigration: Cancel Extension (permission of stay due to employment)

[JimMorris]

Thanks. But what if you are on a visa and work permit issued by the One Stop visa and work permit center? Maybe the One Stop visa counter has a form they will give you to use. Maybe same with the immigration counter there.

[tonray]

1 minute ago, JimMorris said:

Thanks. But what if you are on a visa and work permit issued by the One Stop visa and work permit center? Maybe the One Stop visa counter has a form they will give you to use. Maybe same with the immigration counter there.

Perhaps call them and ask ?

[ubonjoe]

Thsi is the form used for the work permit cancellation. https://www.doe.go.th/prd/assets/upload/files/alien_en/36b15cb4868e72c9630f49d6dd6c89b4.pdf

It has instructions for doing it.

You need a letter from you employer stating the date your job ends to cancel your extension. You can go to immigration up to about a week before the date on the letter and immigration will post date the cancellation to that date.

The one stop center will give you 7 days to leave the country that will start from the date on the letter from your employer.

[JimMorris]

5 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Thsi is the form used for the work permit cancellation. https://www.doe.go.th/prd/assets/upload/files/alien_en/36b15cb4868e72c9630f49d6dd6c89b4.pdf

It has instructions for doing it.

You need a letter from you employer stating the date your job ends to cancel your extension. You can go to immigration up to about a week before the date on the letter and immigration will post date the cancellation to that date.

The one stop center will give you 7 days to leave the country that will start from the date on the letter from your employer.

Thanks. So you need the letter from your employer addressed and submitted to the immigration department and the form from the DOE goes to the work permit counter? So the work permit doesn't need any letter, just the form (which you can prepare and sign yourself)?

 

Are there any fees to be paid for filing these letters/forms?

[ubonjoe]

8 minutes ago, JimMorris said:

Thanks. So you need the letter from your employer addressed and submitted to the immigration department and the form from the DOE goes to the work permit counter? So the work permit doesn't need any letter, just the form (which you can prepare and sign yourself)?

 

Are there any fees to be paid for filing these letters/forms?

The letter goes to immigration. Only the form is needed for the work permit cancellation.

No fees for anything.

[JimMorris]

28 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

The letter goes to immigration. Only the form is needed for the work permit cancellation.

No fees for anything.

Thank you. Just long lines :)

[JimMorris]

On 10/25/2017 at 12:33 PM, ubonjoe said:

Thsi is the form used for the work permit cancellation. https://www.doe.go.th/prd/assets/upload/files/alien_en/36b15cb4868e72c9630f49d6dd6c89b4.pdf

It has instructions for doing it.

You need a letter from you employer stating the date your job ends to cancel your extension. You can go to immigration up to about a week before the date on the letter and immigration will post date the cancellation to that date.

The one stop center will give you 7 days to leave the country that will start from the date on the letter from your employer.

 

Thank you. I just wanted to reconfirm that the 7 days starts from the date of employment termination in the letter from the lawyer? Meaning, even if you submit the employment termination letter to immigration a month or two in advance, the 7 days will still be based upon the date of employment termination in the letter?

 

Also, does the same thing apply to submitting the DOE form for cancelling the work permit? Meaning, can it also be done a month or two in advance with the date of employment termination without the form cancelling the work permit immediately?

[ubonjoe]

1 hour ago, JimMorris said:

 

Thank you. I just wanted to reconfirm that the 7 days starts from the date of employment termination in the letter from the lawyer? Meaning, even if you submit the employment termination letter to immigration a month or two in advance, the 7 days will still be based upon the date of employment termination in the letter?

 

Also, does the same thing apply to submitting the DOE form for cancelling the work permit? Meaning, can it also be done a month or two in advance with the date of employment termination without the form cancelling the work permit immediately?

You cannot cancel the extension 2 months before the date on the termination letter. If you meant the date the your current extension ends that irrelevant. The date on the termination letter is when your extension will be canceled and when the 7 day will start.

Same as the extension for the work permit cancellation. It will be done on the day you request the cancellation.

[JimMorris]

2 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

You cannot cancel the extension 2 months before the date on the termination letter. If you meant the date the your current extension ends that irrelevant. The date on the termination letter is when your extension will be canceled and when the 7 day will start.

Same as the extension for the work permit cancellation. It will be done on the day you request the cancellation.

Thank you. Sorry, please let me clarify further. My question is, on both the visa and work permit, if for example you had a termination date of March 31 stated in the letter as your employment termination date, how far in advance would you be permitted to submit the termination of employment letter to immigration? 30 days? 60 days?

 

And if you submit the letter 30 or 60 days in advance, I am assuming this doesn't trigger the 7 day period to start any sooner, since the date of employment termination specified by your employer in the letter is what triggers the 7 day period and is the date that the 7 day period is based solely upon,  correct?

[ubonjoe]

5 minutes ago, JimMorris said:

Thank you. Sorry, please let me clarify further. My question is, on both the visa and work permit, if for example you had a termination date of March 31 stated in the letter as your employment termination date, how far in advance would you be permitted to submit the termination of employment letter to immigration? 30 days? 60 days?

 

And if you submit the letter 30 or 60 days in advance, I am assuming this doesn't trigger the 7 day period to start any sooner, since the date of employment termination specified by your employer in the letter is what triggers the 7 day period and is the date that the 7 day period is based solely upon,  correct?

As I wrote before about 7 days is the most you can submit the termination letter to immigration.

[JimMorris]

12 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

As I wrote before about 7 days is the most you can submit the termination letter to immigration.

So you mean you cannot submit the letter of employment termination to immigration more than 7 days in advance before the date of employment termination?

 

If for example your employer issues you the letter on January 1, and the letter is dated January 1, but has an employment termination date stated in the letter of March 31, can you submit the letter on January 1 or do you have to wait until a few days before March 31 to submit the letter?

 

Sorry, I am not trying to make things complicated. I am just trying to understand the requirements correctly. It is easy to make a mistake with immigraiton rules and run into problems if you misunderstood the requirements. Thank you.

[ubonjoe]

3 minutes ago, JimMorris said:

If for example your employer issues you the letter on January 1, and the letter is dated January 1, but has an employment termination date stated in the letter of March 31, can you submit the letter on January 1 or do you have to wait until a few days before March 31 to submit the letter?

No earlier than 7 days before March 31st.

[JimMorris]

2 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

No earlier than 7 days before March 31st.

That's it. All clear, I got it now. Thank you.

 

In that case, it is probably best for your employer to put date the letter is written itself to be no more than 30 days prior to the date of employment termination.

[JimMorris]

By the way, other than the form needed to be submitted for cancelling the work permit and the letter needed from your employer to cancel the visa, are there any other forms that need to be submitted for cancelling the visa or work permit that should be prepared in advance? Thanks.

[JimMorris]

Worth knowing is that cancellation of the the work permit cannot be done in advance of your final date of employment. When you submit the form it must state that the last date of employment is the same date as the date in which you are submitting the form. So this means you must turn in your work permit on your final day of employment.

[blackcab]

9 hours ago, JimMorris said:

So this means you must turn in your work permit on your final day of employment.

 

Or you can get someone else to do it for you if you complete the letter of authorisation provided by the Department of Labour.

[JimMorris]

I heard from someone recently who cancelled his visa and work permit that on the stamp in Thai that they placed in his passport when he canceled the visa that the visa officer had taken his last day of employment from the letter from his employer also to be the date that he needs to exit the country. This date happened to only be 3 days after the date of when he went in and cancelled his visa. He didn't realize this and, so when he exited the country 4 days later, he came to find out that he had actually overstayed by 1 day. Since the stamp was all in Thai, he didn't bother at the time to find out exactly what it said. But when he saw the date on the stamp being 3 days after he cancelled his visa he assumed it was referring to his last day or employment. He didn't realize it was also the date by which he was supposed to leave the country. But from what I understand, the law is a standard 7 days. So it is good to check the date they stamp in your passport and make sure they are giving you the full 7 days grace period and not a shorter date for some reason.

[BritTim]

3 hours ago, JimMorris said:

I heard from someone recently who cancelled his visa and work permit that on the stamp in Thai that they placed in his passport when he canceled the visa that the visa officer had taken his last day of employment from the letter from his employer also to be the date that he needs to exit the country. This date happened to only be 3 days after the date of when he went in and cancelled his visa. He didn't realize this and, so when he exited the country 4 days later, he came to find out that he had actually overstayed by 1 day. Since the stamp was all in Thai, he didn't bother at the time to find out exactly what it said. But when he saw the date on the stamp being 3 days after he cancelled his visa he assumed it was referring to his last day or employment. He didn't realize it was also the date by which he was supposed to leave the country. But from what I understand, the law is a standard 7 days. So it is good to check the date they stamp in your passport and make sure they are giving you the full 7 days grace period and not a shorter date for some reason.

The work permit does not really matter. Once your employment ceases, if you do not turn in your work permit, I do not think there is any penalty. However, if you have an extension of your permission to stay based on working, it is very important to handle this correctly. With the letter from your employer giving your last date of employment, you can go to immigration in advance, and they will adjust your permission to stay to reflect your last day of employment. You can also apply for a new extension (which is denied) on payment of 1,900 baht and be given 7 days to leave the country. If you are on good terms with your employer when you leave, ask them to give a slightly later date (at least the Sunday rather than Friday) as your last day of employment so you can arrange your departure in a less frantic manner (whether or not you are coming straight back).