UK opposition look to force government into publishing Brexit dossiers

[webfact]

UK opposition look to force government into publishing Brexit dossiers

 

Britain's opposition Labour Party leader, Jeremy Corbyn arrives at a meeting of the European Socialists and Democrats party (PES) ahead of a European Union summit in Brussels, Belgium, October 19, 2017. REUTERS/Yves Herman

 

LONDON (Reuters) - Britain's opposition Labour party will attempt on Wednesday to force the government to release its assessment of the impact Brexit will have on 58 different sectors of the economy.

 

The government said on Monday it had carried out the economic assessments, ranging from aerospace to tourism sectors, but has so far refused requests from lawmakers to publish them, saying it needed a "safe space" to make Brexit policy in private.

 

That has irked lawmakers - including some from Prime Minister Theresa May's own party - who say the documents should be subject to parliamentary scrutiny and used to help shape the public debate around what a good EU departure deal would look like.

 

The opposition Labour Party said it would use a debate in parliament on Wednesday afternoon to try to win support for a motion that it said would leave the government with no choice but to release the papers.

 

"Ministers cannot keep withholding vital information from Parliament about the impact of Brexit on jobs and the economy," said Labour's Brexit policy chief Keir Starmer.

 

Typically, opposition motions in parliament cannot bind the government. But Labour said it would use an established though little-used parliamentary procedure to compel ministers to hand over the files to parliament's Brexit committee.

 

The committee should then decide whether to make them public, Labour said.

 

"Labour recognises the importance of protecting the government's negotiating position with the European Union. However, that does not give ministers the right to impose a blanket ban on publishing any information whatsoever about the economic impact of Brexit," Starmer said.

 

(Reporting by William James; Editing by Hugh Lawson)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2017-11-01

[Samui Bodoh]

19 minutes ago, webfact said:

The government said on Monday it had carried out the economic assessments, ranging from aerospace to tourism sectors, but has so far refused requests from lawmakers to publish them, saying it needed a "safe space" to make Brexit policy in private.

 

That has irked lawmakers - including some from Prime Minister Theresa May's own party - who say the documents should be subject to parliamentary scrutiny and used to help shape the public debate around what a good EU departure deal would look like.

 

Er... Ahem... Shouldn't you have done this BEFORE you voted to leave?

 

[Khun Han]

Wouldn't it be so helpful to the UK if Corbyn actually stood up for his well-known support for brexit, and got behind the UK's attempt to leave the abomination that he personally despises, instead of him playing the disgraceful political games that he's playing, ably assisted by his dodgy lawyer Keir Starmer?

[rockingrobin]

8 minutes ago, Khun Han said:

Wouldn't it be so helpful to the UK if Corbyn actually stood up for his well-known support for brexit, and got behind the UK's attempt to leave the abomination that he personally despises, instead of him playing the disgraceful political games that he's playing, ably assisted by his dodgy lawyer Keir Starmer?

Are you saying that J Corbyn should support policies based upon ideology as opposed to the information available.

 

[Khun Han]

9 minutes ago, rockingrobin said:

Are you saying that J Corbyn should support policies based upon ideology as opposed to the information available.

 

 

I'm saying that Corbyn should stop playing party politics on a subject that exponentially transcends such things. We have the utterly absurd situation of having a prime minister who acknowledged that her personal views had to be put aside in favour of democracy after the referendum versus an opposition leader who has put his personal views aside because they might get in the way of his ascent to power.

[taipeir]

 

I'm saying that Corbyn should stop playing party politics on a subject that exponentially transcends such things. We have the utterly absurd situation of having a prime minister who acknowledged that her personal views had to be put aside in favour of democracy after the referendum versus an opposition leader who has put his personal views aside because they might get in the way of his ascent to power.

You are saying it's 'party politics' to be looking to get facts to support a given direction or policy decision?

 

As the leader of the opposition it's his job to look into what the government is doing.

 

Do you understand what democracy actually means?

 

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[David in the north]

4 hours ago, Khun Han said:

 

I'm saying that Corbyn should stop playing party politics on a subject that exponentially transcends such things. We have the utterly absurd situation of having a prime minister who acknowledged that her personal views had to be put aside in favour of democracy after the referendum versus an opposition leader who has put his personal views aside because they might get in the way of his ascent to power.

I have to agree with you. Corbyn & his ilk are just out for their own political ends - the UK doesn't matter. His "policies" change according to what might garner the most votes. It is time all concerned united to get the best deal for UK. The vote was for out.

[nauseus]

5 hours ago, rockingrobin said:

Are you saying that J Corbyn should support policies based upon ideology as opposed to the information available.

 

Corbyn should be supporting policies according to his election manifesto. Not arsing about with Clegg and Adonis in Brussels.

Edited November 1, 2017 by nauseus

[Baerboxer]

6 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

 

Er... Ahem... Shouldn't you have done this BEFORE you voted to leave?

 

 

Yep. And as leader of the opposition Corbyn should have been championing that, making sure all the true real facts were published.

 

But he wanted Brexit. So never really bothered. And instead we got Boris the Balmy and Toad Farage lies and conning people.

 

The actual looming disaster is now being covered up by the Tories as they desperately try to come up with ways to avoid all the sticky stuff attaching to them when the shit hit's the fan. As it soon will.

[Baerboxer]

41 minutes ago, David in the north said:

I have to agree with you. Corbyn & his ilk are just out for their own political ends - the UK doesn't matter. His "policies" change according to what might garner the most votes. It is time all concerned united to get the best deal for UK. The vote was for out.

 

And should all the due diligence have been done before and the information made public the vote would never have been to leave.

 

But both parties were out for their own agendas and nothing to do with the benefit and future of the country.

 

 

[Baerboxer]

5 hours ago, taipeir said:

You are saying it's 'party politics' to be looking to get facts to support a given direction or policy decision?

 

As the leader of the opposition it's his job to look into what the government is doing.

 

Do you understand what democracy actually means?

 

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Shame he didn't bother providing an effective opposition and challenge to Brexit then. But as a career long anti EU politician it's not surprising.

[Baerboxer]

5 hours ago, Khun Han said:

 

I'm saying that Corbyn should stop playing party politics on a subject that exponentially transcends such things. We have the utterly absurd situation of having a prime minister who acknowledged that her personal views had to be put aside in favour of democracy after the referendum versus an opposition leader who has put his personal views aside because they might get in the way of his ascent to power.

 

Corbyn is actually very dangerous. He's clever to tell swathes of the electorate what they want to hear and promise them what they want. But his party cannot explain how it will all be achieved or the consequences.

 

I saw an interview with the shaddow FS on Brexit. It was like a time-warp. All attacks on the government, personal attacks on the government members and populist catch phrases. She was repeatedly pushed for clear statements on Labours idea of a good Brexit deal and what it would look like. Totally clueless. Had no idea. Just trotted out but "our deal will be a better one" and actually said it was because the EU like the Labour party more than the Tories!! What complete <deleted>.

 

Form the little extracted from her - Labour will allow free movement of people, allow the rule of the European court, pay the amounts the EU demands in exchange for access to the free market. That's their vision!

 

[Samui Bodoh]

10 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Yep. And as leader of the opposition Corbyn should have been championing that, making sure all the true real facts were published.

 

But he wanted Brexit. So never really bothered. And instead we got Boris the Balmy and Toad Farage lies and conning people.

 

The actual looming disaster is now being covered up by the Tories as they desperately try to come up with ways to avoid all the sticky stuff attaching to them when the shit hit's the fan. As it soon will.

 

"Boris the Balmy and Toad Farage"

 

Not being British, I (try to) keep my comments to a minimum on this issue, but...

 

Shouldn't you mention Gove the Gross? Gove the Grotesque? Gove the gushing glop of Gas? Greasy Gove? Gove the giant Gunt?

 

Just askin'

 

[nauseus]

13 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

And should all the due diligence have been done before and the information made public the vote would never have been to leave.

 

But both parties were out for their own agendas and nothing to do with the benefit and future of the country.

 

 

This point of due diligence and public information also applies to the 1975 referendum. If the public had been comprehensively informed then, we would never have joined this circus in the first place!

[Grouse]

5 hours ago, Khun Han said:

 

I'm saying that Corbyn should stop playing party politics on a subject that exponentially transcends such things. We have the utterly absurd situation of having a prime minister who acknowledged that her personal views had to be put aside in favour of democracy after the referendum versus an opposition leader who has put his personal views aside because they might get in the way of his ascent to power.

"Exponentially transcends" 

 

beyond me!

[Grouse]

1 hour ago, David in the north said:

I have to agree with you. Corbyn & his ilk are just out for their own political ends - the UK doesn't matter. His "policies" change according to what might garner the most votes. It is time all concerned united to get the best deal for UK. The vote was for out.

Yes the Con Party are much more honourable! ?

[taipeir]

Yes the Con Party are much more honourable! [emoji38]

Politicians out for their own political ends?

Next milkmen will be out for delivering milk!

What's the world coming to? ?

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[dunroaming]

4 hours ago, David in the north said:

I have to agree with you. Corbyn & his ilk are just out for their own political ends - the UK doesn't matter. His "policies" change according to what might garner the most votes. It is time all concerned united to get the best deal for UK. The vote was for out.

Now replace the names "Corbyn and his ilk" with "May and her ilk" and you have exactly the same thing.

 

To get all concerned to garner together to get the best deal for the UK is not possible.  People have different ideas of what is best for Britain.  What we really need now is for people to be told the honest truth of what is achievable from Brexit and the consequences.  However at the moment we are still being lied to and kept in the dark and therefore we just stagger along blindly. 

[aright]

On ‎01‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 10:39 AM, dunroaming said:

  What we really need now is for people to be told the honest truth of what is achievable from Brexit and the consequences.  However at the moment we are still being lied to and kept in the dark and therefore we just stagger along blindly. 

DR don't hold your breath.......to a Politician truth is a currency and it's value is negotiable.

[aright]

On ‎01‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 6:40 AM, Grouse said:

"Exponentially transcends" 

 

beyond me!

Blame that on a Sheffield education.

Keep up lad ! Exponentially Transcends won the 2 o'clock at Haydock on Tuesday.