webfact Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Plan to cede police powers to agencies By KHANITTHA THEPPHAJORN THE NATION File photo TRAFFIC AMONG AREAS CITED UNDER PROPOSAL APPROVED BY NATIONAL REFORM COMMITTEE THE POLICE force will transfer many of its current key missions to other agencies if the reform plan approved by the National Reform Committee on Judicial Affairs sails ahead. The regulation of traffic flow and enforcement of traffic laws, for example, will be handed over to the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA), the Pattaya City Administration and some 30 other city municipalities within three years of the laws related to police reforms taking effect. Following the reform, the Customs Department and the Excise Department will investigate alleged economic crimes under customs and excise laws themselves. These departments will also be able to seek arrest and search warrants from the courts on their own. The Royal Forest Department, the Department of National Parks, Plant and Wildlife Conservation, and the Marine and Coastal Resources Department, meanwhile, will take over the investigation of environmental crimes. The Office of the Consumer Protection Board, the Public Health Ministry and the Industry Ministry will have the power to investigate alleged violations of consumer rights and food and drug regulations, and make related arrests in the near future in line with the reform plan. “The National Reform Committee on Judicial Affairs has already approved the plan,” the committee’s spokesman, Somkid Lertpaitoon, said yesterday. “We plan to get feedback from the agencies that will take over the missions by February 1.” He added that the committee would have to review any feedback before submitting its final proposal on police reform to the government in March. “The next step is then about the legislation of laws to allow the transfer of missions,” he said. Somkid revealed that the plan would also seek to transfer responsibility for preventing and suppressing highway, transportation and vehicle-related offences to the Transport Ministry. “The suppression and prevention of marine crimes will also become the duty of the Transport Ministry’s Marine Department, not the Marine Police,” he said. Somkid said his committee also believed the suppression and prevention of violations against intellectual rights should go to the Intellectual Property Department. “The duty to prevent tourism crimes should also change hands from the Tourist Police Division to the Sports and Tourism Ministry,” he said. However, Somkid said his committee believed that police would still have to work with other agencies in various missions, such as boosting train-passenger safety and suppressing technology crimes. “Regarding immigration, we need further discussions with the Office the Public Sector Development Commission,” he added. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30332284 -- © Copyright The Nation 2017-11-23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) Sounds like the cops' job in the future will have them doing exactly what they do now, which is NOTHING. Edited November 22, 2017 by jaywalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenslander Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Yes...but they do it well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 If this truly happens, the result could be massive. This will totally neuter the currently too big police force. It's reach will be cut back dramatically. Fantastic news. I'd love to see how it will impact the size ot the organization. #1 problem in Thailand today. A massively corrupt police force. Hard to enforce laws in an environment like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 The Police wont stand for this,too many big money making opportunities going out of their control. regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMartinHandyman Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 This transfer of authority raises so many questions and more opportunities for business worse than usual enforcement. Not my job will become an even more common refrain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jools Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 What could possibly go wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Can I tender for the Kangaroo Court administration rights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Celery Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) Cystome & Excise? They're as larcenous as the police. Another right royal cock-up being planned. 10:1 the police manage to scotch the whole thing and thus retain their revenue streams. I doubt they;re very worried, they've seen off reform plans before. Edited November 23, 2017 by Sid Celery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweatySock Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 How about the poor victims? Help a crime has been committed, call for help!! What type of crime was it? Environmental? - Call 121 Marine? - Call 131 Drugs? - Call 141 Traffic? - Call 151 Sport? - Call 161 etc etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebrown Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 I wonder who the owners of these 'Agencies' might be? (rhetorical question) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 If they can pull this off, it would be a coup de tat for the junta. Sorry could not resist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 I see a few teething problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songlaw Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 It appears that the cops will be all "spiffed up," but with no place to go. An innovative approach to problem-solving. Come to think of it, there is a lot of 'innovation' here. It is more than obvious that "innovation" had rather unceremoniously become a synonym for "circumnavigation," in LOS and was further developed as an art form, at some point in the ethereal past. An astounding bit of (albeit tacit) acknowledgment of systemic irretrievability, just the same. May 'wonders' never cease because, at this stage of the game, incredulity is one of the only measurable emotional responses I have left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twizzian Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 It will only be another “ this is the last time we’ll here about plan” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Ummm has anyone told the National Reform Committee that those other agencies are just as corrupt as the cops? They are licking their cops at this new found power to embezzle This is nothing more than a reordering of the line at the trough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 4 hours ago, webfact said: THE POLICE force will transfer many of its current key missions to other agencies if the reform plan approved by the National Reform Committee on Judicial Affairs sails ahead watering down police influence is both vital and positive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 42 minutes ago, SweatySock said: How about the poor victims? Help a crime has been committed, call for help!! What type of crime was it? Environmental? - Call 121 Marine? - Call 131 Drugs? - Call 141 Traffic? - Call 151 Sport? - Call 161 etc etc etc. perhaps better than today when they don't even answer the call or tell you they are too busy to deal with it. Both of these were recently reported in the local news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Which branch will deal with the taxi mafia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlQaholic Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) Sooo.....if a drug trafficker who is currently not trafficking drugs but is wanted for drug trafficking, he steals a yacht at a marina, guts a diver with the propellers, takes it to Cambodia, buys arms and tobacco there and smuggles it into the country by using a stolen car from Cambodia, he then crashes into another car on the highway, escapes from the stolen car, murders a bystander with a knife and then proceeds to.........bla bla bla......Not our job says the police......... I am sorry to bring the bad news.....but LAW ENFORCEMENT is done by the POLICE......duh........... If there was a price "dumbest idea of the century", this one is it...... Edited November 23, 2017 by AlQaholic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamkyong Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 12 minutes ago, Songlaw said: It appears that the cops will be all "spiffed up," but with no place to go. An innovative approach to problem-solving. Come to think of it, there is a lot of 'innovation' here. It is more than obvious that "innovation" had rather unceremoniously become a synonym for "circumnavigation," in LOS and was further developed as an art form, at some point in the ethereal past. An astounding bit of (albeit tacit) acknowledgment of systemic irretrievability, just the same. May 'wonders' never cease because, at this stage of the game, incredulity is one of the only measurable emotional responses I have left. run that by me again please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Not to mention Now all these guys with guns will lose their income, Guess what comes next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlQaholic Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 11 minutes ago, Lamkyong said: run that by me again please He is just trying to imitate the guy in the movie "Vendetta"..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob12345 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 15 minutes ago, AlQaholic said: I am sorry to bring the bad news.....but LAW ENFORCEMENT is done by the POLICE......duh........... If there was a price "dumbest idea of the century", this one is it...... Agree that its their job, but as they are barely doing it with success i am open to any idea how to improve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 5 hours ago, webfact said: “The duty to prevent tourism crimes should also change hands from the Tourist Police Division to the Sports and Tourism Ministry,” he said I'm sure the TAT minister's ever-optimistic outlook will rose-colour the crime figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songlaw Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Songlaw said: It appears that the cops will be all "spiffed up," but with no place to go. An innovative approach to problem-solving. Come to think of it, there is a lot of 'innovation' here. It is more than obvious that "innovation" had rather unceremoniously become a synonym for "circumnavigation," in LOS and was further developed as an art form, at some point in the ethereal past. An astounding bit of (albeit tacit) acknowledgment of systemic irretrievability, just the same. May 'wonders' never cease because, at this stage of the game, incredulity is one of the only measurable emotional responses I have left. 41 minutes ago, Lamkyong said: run that by me again please Happy to oblige: An allusion was being made to the 'big deal' surrounding the "smartening up" of the RTP in yesterday's column, immediately followed by their duties being farmed out to just about every agency and organization to be found in Thailand except the RTP. Seriously, that's not funny? Thus the "all spiffed up and no place to go" commentary. Just thought that was exceptional irony, even by Thai standards. However, the rest was a perhaps not so thinly-veiled diatribe on overall circumstantial remediation in LOS. I do not write for a broad audience as a matter of course as well as one of self-preservation. My 'audience' would be a small though similarly-minded group; admittedly, on this site, so small as to be effectually nonexistent. Or maybe I am just trying to "imitate the guy from Vendetta." So it goes. Edited November 23, 2017 by Songlaw Paying homage to an idiot's (not Lamkyong) comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossy Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 5 hours ago, webfact said: “The next step is then about the legislation of laws to allow the transfer of missions,” he said. " . . . the legislation of laws to allow the transfer of missions," a next step that, as per normal, may or may not happen and may be completed within the next year or two. Boy, don't they just love to SAY NOTHING! And then they will decide what to do with the officially redundant 200,000 officers, as opposed to the current unofficially redundant/invisible officers. That should save a bob or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Kicking the can down the road; a perfect metaphor to describe this feeble attempt at police reform. Certainly not sterner stuffs like revising the law with some kick ass deterrents, no more transfer of inactive posts but sacking from the force, re-structure the whole force starting from the top, arrest the top corrupted officers to send a message to the lower ranks and investigate all the unusual wealth of officers. Ceding to another corrupt agencies is just passing the tough to another group of feasting pigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lawrence Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 A greater share of graft for every Department in Government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 4 hours ago, jaywalker said: Sounds like the cops' job in the future will have them doing exactly what they do now, which is NOTHING. Actually they work very hard extorting money everyday... praise where it's due !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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