rooster59 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Video: When your number is up - it's up. Motorcyclist killed by loose truck wheel. Image: Manager Thai media reported on what they called the most bad luck imaginable as a female motorcyclist travelling normally along a road was hit by a wheel that came off a truck trailer coming in the opposite direction. CCTV showed the wheel come loose from the truck, bounce over the central reservation and straight into the head of 28 year old Apinya Soithong a local to the Kamphaeng Saen area of Nakorn Pathom. Police found her dead with a broken neck and brain matter spread all over the road. A witness told them about the wheel coming off and this was confirmed later by the CCTV footage. They went in search of the truck and found it parked further down the road towards Nakorn Pathom. The driver had fled. Manager described the accident as an example of terrible misfortune that was scarcely believable. It was not reported how or why the wheel would come loose. Police are tracing the owner of the truck and looking for the driver who fled. Source: Manager -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2017-12-09 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post daoyai Posted December 9, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2017 she is a victim of negligence, wheels don't just fly off ..... 44 2 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post darksidedog Posted December 9, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2017 Tragic timing. I am not surprised sadly, that the truck driver fled the scene. Lack of care in maintenance and a lack of responsibility, are overwhelmingly prevalent on drivers and operators of cars, buses, trucks, and all other vehicles on the roads here. I hope they catch the scumbag driver and nail him. RIP Apinya. 16 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted December 9, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2017 46 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said: Yes I'm for real.... She wasn't paying attention, as usual on the roads here !! It in no way takes responsibility away from the truck company, just an observation. and of course you could have avoided the wheel - I would get a posting holiday if I really said what I want to say to you - shame on you There was no possible way for this young lady to avoid this horrific incident, the fault is clearly with whoever is responsible for the maintenance of the truck As usual Thais blaming everything but the actual cause 25 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Really...there is no limit to the tragic or disastrous varieties that cause casualties on Thai roads !!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted December 9, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2017 20 minutes ago, BEVUP said: Have to agree, all over in 3 sec & maybe the shrubs were obscuring the situation correct, she had no chance but of course the superman hero posting on this forum could have avoided it, pity there is no way the actually test that out 23 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cornishcarlos Posted December 9, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2017 1 minute ago, smedly said: and of course you could have avoided the wheel - I would get a posting holiday if I really said what I want to say to you - shame on you There was no possible way for this young lady to avoid this horrific incident, the fault is clearly with whoever is responsible for the maintenance of the truck As usual Thais blaming everything but the actual cause I said maybe she could of reacted and the outcome might have been different. Maybe if I was in the same situation I might have been killed too, maybe not ? I can say that when I'm on my bike I pay attention to my surroundings, not just the 20yrs directly in front of me... You're entitled to your opinion, as am I... 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMuhammad Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 1 hour ago, rooster59 said: Manager described the accident as an example of terrible misfortune that was scarcely believable. Total freak accident 555 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kadilo Posted December 9, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2017 ".....and brain matter spread across the road" Bit too much detail there. Sympathies to the lady and her family. She had no chance. Hopefully the driver will be caught and the responsible parties prosecuted. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mondeo Posted December 9, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2017 Poor lady, victim of thai maintanance. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 the lottery of driving in Thailand...most win but some lose...it will never change ...but we await another catchphrase ,a dog and pony show photo opp, with a new pie chart...followed by a seafood buffet... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Just Weird Posted December 9, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2017 1 hour ago, cornishcarlos said: I said maybe she could of reacted and the outcome might have been different. Maybe if I was in the same situation I might have been killed too, maybe not ? I can say that when I'm on my bike I pay attention to my surroundings, not just the 20yrs directly in front of me... You're entitled to your opinion, as am I... "I said maybe she could of reacted..." You didn't, not in your 1st comment but you did in your 3rd one when you tried to backpedal to deflect some heat you were deservedly getting. 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Just Weird said: "I said maybe she could of reacted..." You didn't, not in your 1st comment but you did in your 3rd one when you tried to backpedal to deflect some heat you were deservedly getting. I'm not trying to deflect any heat. I wasn't expecting everyone to agree with, which is what makes forums interesting. I'm also not back peddling. Thai driving "skills" suck.. Negligence (truck companies), complacency, lack of training, no law enforcement and trust in amulets all contribute to the unacceptable death toll here... 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Just now, cornishcarlos said: I'm not trying to deflect any heat. I wasn't expecting everyone to agree with, which is what makes forums interesting. I'm also not back peddling. So why did you claim to have posted something that you didn't post except as a late afterthought? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post maxpower Posted December 9, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, cornishcarlos said: I said maybe she could of reacted and the outcome might have been different. Maybe if I was in the same situation I might have been killed too, maybe not ? I can say that when I'm on my bike I pay attention to my surroundings, not just the 20yrs directly in front of me... You're entitled to your opinion, as am I... Gotcha, I have seen that movie too.... Loose truck wheel approaching from the right and the guy has approx 4 seconds to avoid collision. He mentally calculates wheel to be travelling at 25 feet per second and if he remains on the current path it will strike him at an angle of 40 deg. He must apply approx 1.5 kg pressure to the front and rear brakes to initiate a near miss of 500 mm. Edited December 9, 2017 by maxpower 5 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas3965 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Such sad news. Sorry for her family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crazygreg44 Posted December 9, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2017 (edited) i must agree with cornishcarlos to the point that I am indeed surprised that there wasn't a single flicker of reaction on her side, from when the wheel started rolling to when it was still on top of the center section, and a great part away . . so I was waiting . . . waiting. . . . . for at least her rear brake light to light up . . . . but nothing . . . . It all happened very fast . . . . I am riding motorcycles since I was 13 and I am often taken aback at the sights of apparent daydreaming of motorcyclists on Thailand's roads. When I go for a ride, my overall attention is everywhere from 5 yards towards 200 yards ahead . . to the right, to the rear and to the left, and in Thailand, also to the above! You could call that "scouting" and it is part of my defensive riding style another part of my defensive riding style incorporates "always expect the unexpected". In Thailand this mostly means the sudden appearance of dogs, motorcycles cutting in your way from the behind or trucks coming from ahead suddenly swerving from their lane . . . I have already had my fair share of all of the above. So the "expect the unexpected" actually has grown stronger over my years in riding Thai roads. Thus said the accident is tragic and could have been avoided if the truck had undergone proper & regular maintenance. It was absolutely not her fault and there was little, very little she could have done. Even braking would have still kept her in the wheel's path. Just wondering there was nilch, nada reaction, as in my case I was able to count to three after the wheel had come off . . . again . . . . . but . . . then probably the poster is right who said that her view was obscurred by the shrubs in the median. She didn't see the wheel coming until it was across the shrubs There can't be any excuse and there's no way around it. Rest in Peace, young lady Edited December 9, 2017 by crazygreg44 1 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 39 minutes ago, Just Weird said: So why did you claim to have posted something that you didn't post except as a late afterthought? Because that's what I did post. I never claimed to post it in my 1st post ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted December 9, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2017 8 minutes ago, crazygreg44 said: i must agree with cornishcarlos to the point that I am indeed surprised that there wasn't a single flicker of reaction to be noticed, from when the wheel started rolling to when it was still on top of the center section, and a great part away but yet I was waiting . . .waiting. . . . . for at least her rear brake light to light up . . . . but nothing . . . . I am riding motorcycles since I was 13 and I am often taken aback at the sights of apparent daydreaming of motorcyclists on Thailand's roads. When I go for a ride, my overall attention is everywhere from 5 yards towards 200 yards ahead . . to the right and to the left, and in Thailand, also to the above! Thus said the accident is tragic and could have avoided if the truck had undergone proper & regular maintenance. It was absolutely not her fault and there was little, very little she could have done. Even braking would have still kept her in the wheel's path. Just wondering there was NOTHING, as in my case I was able to count to three after the wheel had come off . . . again . . . . . but . . . then probably the poster is right who said that her view was obscurred by the shrubs in the median. There can't be any excuse and there's no way around it. Rest in Peace, young lady here we go again another superman Trust me mate - if you had been on that motorbike you would most certainly now be dead 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aboctok Posted December 9, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2017 3 hours ago, PremiumLane said: are you for real? An example of the stupidity of some of the posters on here Fully agree. Utterly ridiculous to aver that this poor woman should've seen the wheel coming and somehow reacted. She didn't have anywhere near the same amount of time that we get, watching the clip in comfort, shot with CCTV from an advantageous perspective. Some people have suggested she had several seconds, which I think is rubbish. In reality it looks more like a fraction of a second. To suppose that she should've observed the wheel before it crossed the median strip, and taken evasive action seems fanciful. Yes, I've noticed a hell of a lot of Thais drive badly and don't exhibit situational awareness. And no way should this be considered an example of that. Very sorry for her and her family. 9 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted December 9, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, cornishcarlos said: She is also a victim of the Thai lack of looking ahead... At no point did she seem to even notice a great big wheel heading in her direction !! RIP but pay attention !! Did you see the speed, weight, and size of that wheel? I doubt even a well trained, and talented race car driver would have picked up on that, and been able to dodge it in time. Not her fault, on any level. Total, gross negligence on the part of the person who installed that wheel, and maintained that truck. The company should be liable for substantial damages, to her family. My heart goes out to her family. An unnecessary tragedy, no doubt. Edited December 9, 2017 by spidermike007 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Tchooptip said: I have had many bikes, all my life, the first thing I never forgot is trying to avoid obstacles if possible, instead of simply braking. I looked 2/3 times this video: IMPOSSIBLE, the wheel was not coming from the front of her but from the other side of the road, and the wheel bounced to the right exactly on her, inevitable. Adding the speed of the motorbike with the speed of the wheel in the opposite direction we are over 100kmh. Absolutely spot on correct in your observation. The dissenters here, know nothing about anything having to do with driving, and the avoidance of those kinds of obstacles. When was the last time THEY tried to dodge a 50 kilogram wheel going 40 kph? She had one second to react. And that is if she happened to be looking directly at that truck, at exactly that instant! That much is obvious. Look, I believe in something that resembles the grim reaper. When your number is up, that is all they wrote. A "truck wheel" meaning, without the tire on it, is approximately 150 Lbs. A "wheel" meaning, with the tire on it, add 350Lbs to equal 500 Lbs. A "wheel" meaning, dual, a set of two side-by-side, equals 1,000 Lbs. A "wheel" meaning, the fifth-wheel, is approximately 1,200 Lbs. https://www.answerbag.com/q_view/36422 Edited December 9, 2017 by spidermike007 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadilo Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, crazygreg44 said: i must agree with cornishcarlos to the point that I am indeed surprised that there wasn't a single flicker of reaction on her side, from when the wheel started rolling to when it was still on top of the center section, and a great part away . . so I was waiting . . . waiting. . . . . for at least her rear brake light to light up . . . . but nothing . . . . It all happened very fast . . . . I am riding motorcycles since I was 13 and I am often taken aback at the sights of apparent daydreaming of motorcyclists on Thailand's roads. When I go for a ride, my overall attention is everywhere from 5 yards towards 200 yards ahead . . to the right, to the rear and to the left, and in Thailand, also to the above! You could call that "scouting" and it is part of my defensive riding style another part of my defensive riding style incorporates "always expect the unexpected". In Thailand this mostly means the sudden appearance of dogs, motorcycles cutting in your way from the behind or trucks coming from ahead suddenly swerving from their lane . . . I have already had my fair share of all of the above. So the "expect the unexpected" actually has grown stronger over my years in riding Thai roads. Thus said the accident is tragic and could have been avoided if the truck had undergone proper & regular maintenance. It was absolutely not her fault and there was little, very little she could have done. Even braking would have still kept her in the wheel's path. Just wondering there was nilch, nada reaction, as in my case I was able to count to three after the wheel had come off . . . again . . . . . but . . . then probably the poster is right who said that her view was obscurred by the shrubs in the median. She didn't see the wheel coming until it was across the shrubs There can't be any excuse and there's no way around it. Rest in Peace, young lady Talk about full of contradictions. As for being able to count to three after the wheel had come off.........struth Edited December 9, 2017 by Kadilo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudhopper Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Thailand, where lack of care equals lack of luck... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnehaha Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 3 hours ago, BEVUP said: Have to agree, all over in 3 sec & maybe the shrubs were obscuring the situation It is quite possible that no one would see the tire. Having said that I have avoided so many things and people on roads that I feel it should be said. But the responsibility falls on the truck owner. Hope they had good 3rd party insurance. And is that required here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sammieuk1 Posted December 9, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2017 Manager described the accident as an example of terrible misfortune and the rest of the world would describe it as manslaughter though criminal negligence . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauGR1 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 very unlucky, no way she could have seen it coming. RIP young lady 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post shaurene Posted December 9, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2017 Mr Cornishcarlos Bit of a shit comment you made about this young inercent lady. i doubt any one would be looking at oncoming traffic on the other side of a large barrier. Can you imagine how fast this wheel would be traveling and hit the barrier shooting upwards. There would Have been NO TIME to avoid it. Her first sight would have been a few seconds before it hit her. Her brains were spread out, so you can imagine the speed of the wheel. have some bloody respect for this unfortunate young lady. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon1 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 4 hours ago, cornishcarlos said: Yes I'm for real.... She wasn't paying attention, as usual on the roads here !! It in no way takes responsibility away from the truck company, just an observation. A wheel is bouncing towards you at 80-100km while you're approaching out at similar speeds.... .. if she was paying attention there was no time .imo Lack of attention is part of the driving psyche..... for every human... perhaps not you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, cornishcarlos said: Yes I'm for real.... She wasn't paying attention, as usual on the roads here !! It in no way takes responsibility away from the truck company, just an observation. The headline is somewhat glib and I really don't think she had much chance here. It came fast from her right and the other side of the central reservation. Hard to focus on all the dangers, road ahead, potholes, other vehicles. Edited December 9, 2017 by jacko45k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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