Best music is from last century?

[firefox999uk]

Shadows of shadows passing It is now 1831 And as always, I am absorbed with a delicate thought

It is how poetry has indefinite sensations To which end, music is an essential

Since the comprehension of sweet sound Is our most indefinite conception

Music when combined with a pleasurable idea is poetry

Music without the idea is simply music

Without music or an intriguing idea Colour become pallor

Man becomes carcass Home becomes catacomb

And the dead are but for a moment motionless

 

 

[Brunolem]

1 hour ago, transam said:

I like Elvis though, and Roy Orbison's stuff....Music comes in many forms and to me the human vocals where exceptional really hit the spot for me...Of course I like Floyd etc for their excellence in sound...

There is no question that Elvis was a great singer and a major entertainer.

He opened the door to the creative flood that would follow in the 60s and 70s, and must be credited and thanked for that.

Having said that, his career was a bit...messy, a large part of it wasted doing insipid movies, then in Vegas, and there is some serious s..t in his discography.

While I certainly can listen to some of his songs, or watch again Jailhouse Rock, I couldn't do that, say, during a whole afternoon, whereas I could do it listening to Pink Floyd or some good Southern Rock...

 

[thaibeachlovers]

21 hours ago, Brunolem said:

More or less, yes.

 

Yet, some groups such as Aerosmith or Guns and Roses, for example, produced great things long after that...

 

1978 marked the advent of disco and punk "music", acting as the first line of demolishers.

 

Of course, as the OP stated, commercialism did and is still doing its devastating part, giving preference to look over talent, and to "kleenex artists" over long term careers.

 

It is likely that most of the 60s and 70s bands would never get the chance to record today...many of them having reached their peak after quite a few misses or near misses that would not be tolerated today where everything is about money, and only money!

I think Peter Paul and Mary would have got laughed out of any music publisher today. 2 unexciting looking guys that wore suits and didn't jump around wouldn't cut it now. Yes she could sing, but that's not important anymore.

I like their music VDOs on U Tube as they just stay in one place and play great music. Now, it's all about changing clothes and 2 second shots between scenes. No wonder young people are screwed up watching that garbage.

[transam]

2 minutes ago, Brunolem said:

There is no question that Elvis was a great singer and a major entertainer.

He opened the door to the creative flood that would follow in the 60s and 70s, and must be credited and thanked for that.

Having said that, his career was a bit...messy, a large part of it wasted doing insipid movies, then in Vegas, and there is some serious s..t in his discography.

While I certainly can listen to some of his songs, or watch again Jailhouse Rock, I couldn't do that, say, during a whole afternoon, whereas I could do it listening to Pink Floyd or some good Southern Rock...

 

Totally different music though..

[thaibeachlovers]

21 hours ago, Jools said:

Depends on whether you're an old git (like me) or a young bloke. There is no accounting for taste. My father liked some music that I like as well. Expecting a 22 year old to like the same music as a man my age (67) is complete insanity.

I wasn't asking about music that people like. I was asking about music that is GREAT and TIMELESS and changed the music that we listen to. 

I think even a 22 year old would like Fleetwood Mac, or Elvis.

[transam]

6 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I wasn't asking about music that people like. I was asking about music that is GREAT and TIMELESS and changed the music that we listen to. 

I think even a 22 year old would like Fleetwood Mac, or Elvis.

 

[thaibeachlovers]

13 minutes ago, firefox999uk said:

Shadows of shadows passing It is now 1831 And as always, I am absorbed with a delicate thought

It is how poetry has indefinite sensations To which end, music is an essential

Since the comprehension of sweet sound Is our most indefinite conception

Music when combined with a pleasurable idea is poetry

Music without the idea is simply music

Without music or an intriguing idea Colour become pallor

Man becomes carcass Home becomes catacomb

And the dead are but for a moment motionless

 

 

Ah, Alan Parson's. I did love all that music. Sadly I just have too many songs I like to hear them much anymore.

I Robot was the first A P lp I listened to, in 1978 - just blew me away, but I was also blown away by Fleetwood Mac's Rumours at the same time. In the end, F M just lasted longer, made more albums and I play them more only for that reason.

[Brunolem]

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I think Peter Paul and Mary would have got laughed out of any music publisher today. 2 unexciting looking guys that wore suits and didn't jump around wouldn't cut it now. Yes she could sing, but that's not important anymore.

I like their music VDOs on U Tube as they just stay in one place and play great music. Now, it's all about changing clothes and 2 second shots between scenes. No wonder young people are screwed up watching that garbage.

Today, it's all about the looks...talent doesn't matter...there are computers for that!

Models, who used to be called mannequins some decades ago and were bottom dwellers, have become "supermodels" making millions to walk ten meters!

Untalented sportswomen, such as Anna Kournikova, who never won a tournament, made millions with her pretty face.

And obviously the music world has not been spared, bringing us the Spice Girls, the Pussycat Dolls and some unforgettable boys bands!

Superficial, artificial, and virtual...that's all!

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[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, transam said:

 

Yes, but would our proverbial 22 year old know their music or who they were?

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[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, Brunolem said:

Today, it's all about the looks...talent doesn't matter...there are computers for that!

Models, who used to be called mannequins some decades ago and were bottom dwellers, have become "supermodels" making millions to walk ten meters!

Untalented sportswomen, such as Anna Kournikova, who never won a tournament, made millions with her pretty face.

And obviously the music world has not been spared, bringing us the Spice Girls, the Pussycat Dolls and some unforgettable boys bands!

Superficial, artificial, and virtual...that's all!

OMG, The Spice Girls. The gogos always played that c*** and I hated it, no, more than that, I loathed it. Unfortunately it was a choice of hearing their caterwauling or not going in gogos and gogos won.

How I cheered when they sacked their manager, and vanished from the airwaves overnight. So much for "girl power".

[Brunolem]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

 

Nazareth was considered a bit too close to Deep Purple by some...

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[firefox999uk]

Here is one that is timeless for Thai Ladys

 

 

Have a Nice Day

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[alanrchase]

 

Not her best.

[KarenBravo]

31 minutes ago, Brunolem said:

There is no question that Elvis was a great singer and a major entertainer.

He opened the door to the creative flood that would follow in the 60s and 70s, and must be credited and thanked for that.

Having said that, his career was a bit...messy, a large part of it wasted doing insipid movies, then in Vegas, and there is some serious s..t in his discography.

While I certainly can listen to some of his songs, or watch again Jailhouse Rock, I couldn't do that, say, during a whole afternoon, whereas I could do it listening to Pink Floyd or some good Southern Rock...

 

His big contribution was to make black music acceptable to whites.

Nowadays, that has a name. Cultural appropriation. These days, it's considered a "bad" thing.

Frankly, I think the concept is greatly flawed.

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[alanrchase]

Here is one that is timeless for Thai Ladys
 
 
Have a Nice Day

I am getting old so I will go for this one.

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[firefox999uk]

Music is timeless because of memories....you can always associate music or a song

with an event in your life...you know where you were, and what you were doing, and who with

(well i can anyway)....so the older you are the more memories.

Here's one that reminds me of my mates wedding....played when his wife was walking down the aisle.

A bit different this one though as it is played on a guitar synth.

 

 

 

 

Have a Nice Day.

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[alanrchase]

 

[firefox999uk]

Here Trans,

Wasn't Keith a good looking boy back then....look at him now....

Still he's one of the best guitarist in the world.

 

 

Have a Nice Day

[JLCrab]

22 hours ago, malibukid said:

good music is good music and will past the test of time. <snip>  Duke Ellington, Benny Goodman, Cole Porter, Gershwin.  these guy's where giants and still are. <snip2>

As for George (and Ira) Gershwin here is a 4 plus minute reason why:

 

[firefox999uk]

JLCrab, you just reminded me,

 

Here you are...Steveland Morris sums it all up...Listen to the words

 

 

 

Have a Nice Day

[Brunolem]

1 hour ago, KarenBravo said:

His big contribution was to make black music acceptable to whites.

Nowadays, that has a name. Cultural appropriation. These days, it's considered a "bad" thing.

Frankly, I think the concept is greatly flawed.

I suppose you mean the concept of cultural appropriation is greatly flawed?

 

The Black musicians from the South were more than happy to share and teach their music to White guys.

Serious and talented White musicians were always respectful and it was an honor for them to be invited to jam, or even record, with their masters (see Clapton with BB King, for example).

 

Let's leave "cultural appropriation" to the savants who have also discovered a dozen new genders, and the pronouns associated with each of those...now that is some serious progress, unfortunately way beyond the understanding of a caveman such as myself!