Brits vs. Americans in Pattaya

[ravip]

On 12/28/2017 at 7:01 PM, champers said:

It's the beer talking. Don't be too concerned; Brits believe ourselves to be superior to everyone else. Some of us are too polite to boast about it. Some aren't.

"Brits believe ourselves to be superior to everyone else."

 

What a disgusting attitude/trait!

Centuries back they thought so and did things that ruined other countries, with results that could be seen even to-day.

Thank you for confirming it.

 

 

 

[Thaidream]

After reading this thread and my own personal experiences- I really don't hold much hope for the World. As my late father used to say- 'Humans will eventually destroy themselves.' So, go ahead continue to self destruct with your petty grievances and bigoted opinions.

[champers]

47 minutes ago, ravip said:

"Brits believe ourselves to be superior to everyone else."

 

What a disgusting attitude/trait!

Centuries back they thought so and did things that ruined other countries, with results that could be seen even to-day.

Thank you for confirming it.

 

 

 

I think "disgusting" is a little over the top. There are many countries that have a distasteful past but you should not disregard the good and solely concentrate on the bad. As you type your reply just remember where the WorldWideWeb was invented, for example.

[Beats56]

On 28/12/2017 at 9:44 PM, james1995 said:

If the nationality topic comes up, I try to ignore it.  Sometimes it's not possible.  Often when I tell the truth, the sh*t talking starts..  Best tell them you're Canadian and make sure you've got the accent right.  They can tell.

Eh

[Thaidream]

I'd  rather live with chimps than some of the bigots who post on this site. At least animals have an excuse.  Humans have none- they can reason and think abstractly.

[LennyW]

1 hour ago, ravip said:

"Brits believe ourselves to be superior to everyone else."

 

What a disgusting attitude/trait!

Centuries back they thought so and did things that ruined other countries, with results that could be seen even to-day.

Thank you for confirming it.

 

 

 

Actually it is the Scots that are superior to everyone else as we invented everything that is of any use !!!! :-) :-) :-)

[mick01827]

Could've been even worse than a sweaty chav, could've been a sweaty sock!

On 29/12/2017 at 7:25 AM, citybiker said:

Could be worse, a sweaty chav ;-)

As for cultural conflicts, overall I tend to socialise better with anyone overseas, hardly had any issues that I recall.

Although airports can be tricky....


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[ravip]

1 hour ago, champers said:

I think "disgusting" is a little over the top. There are many countries that have a distasteful past but you should not disregard the good and solely concentrate on the bad. As you type your reply just remember where the WorldWideWeb was invented, for example.

Yes, most countries do have a distasteful past. But living today with that 'superiority complex' is very disgusting, IMHO. Good inventions are appreciated, but the bad attitude ruins WEAKER nations.

 

Hence I chose the word 'disgusting' to state it mildly.

 

Edit

Even on this TVF you could find the 'superiority complex' in abundance!

 

[citybiker]

Could've been even worse than a sweaty chav, could've been a sweaty sock!
 

I’ve not been called that in years, still makes me chuckle though ;-)


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[rott]

2 hours ago, ravip said:

"Brits believe ourselves to be superior to everyone else."

 

What a disgusting attitude/trait!

Centuries back they thought so and did things that ruined other countries, with results that could be seen even to-day.

Thank you for confirming it.

 

 

 

In the country you are from do they/you not understand humour.??

[rott]

18 hours ago, JSixpack said:

 

OP, for authoritative answers you really should ask your questions at the friendly, welcoming British Cultural Center Of Pattaya:

 

I have been drinking there on and off for over 20 years, in general you get a surprising mix of people.

 

Have you ever been inside JS??

 

And no need for Grammar Nazis, the apostrophe is correct.

[champers]

2 minutes ago, rott said:

I have been drinking there on and off for over 20 years, in general you get a surprising mix of people.

 

Have you ever been inside JS??

During the 1998 football World Cup they put a sign outside the bar banning; for the duration; all "frogs, krauts, eyeties, yanks, argies, etc, etc" and concluded the list with "Thais". All their staff promptly walked out and only agreed to return for increased pay and the removal of "Thais" from the list of those banned.

[hugh2121]

18 hours ago, watcharacters said:

 

 

 

 

I think hugh2121 will find there are plenty of Brits that are abrasive characters if he steps outside his realm.   Sorry..

Please note that my post indicated all nationalities.

[rott]

2 minutes ago, champers said:

During the 1998 football World Cup they put a sign outside the bar banning; for the duration; all "frogs, krauts, eyeties, yanks, argies, etc, etc" and concluded the list with "Thais". All their staff promptly walked out and only agreed to return for increased pay and the removal of "Thais" from the list of those banned.

Sounds plausible. I will enquire of the mother of his daughter next time I see her.

[hugh2121]

18 hours ago, hyku1147 said:

Ironically, "ass whoopin'" is  American  slang.

"ass whooped

The act of getting beaten up badly. Also used in competition when one opponent gets a decisive victory over another.

Ted got his ass whooped by Tony."

 

 

one could always say "Imagine if during WW2, the USA did not  provide significant military supplies and other assistance to the Allies in September 1940? Did you know that the United States did not enter the war until December 1941?"

I understand that the pregnant virgin rode on an ass. So, are you saying that Ted also had an ass and it was "beaten up badly" by Tony?

 

Amy Reeca entered the war because it's naval fleet was severely embarrassed at Pearl Harbour. It was that which made them realise that the whole world was under threat and Britain was the only one in the whole of Europe which was holding out and striking back.

 

What this has to do with Brits and Spams in Pattaya I really can't imagine. 

[ravip]

22 minutes ago, rott said:

In the country you are from do they/you not understand humour.??

Of course we do!

Humour comes in many different flavours that it is misunderstood very often!

-or some pretend to misunderstand ;-)

[JSixpack]

54 minutes ago, LennyW said:

Actually it is the Scots that are superior to everyone else as we invented everything that is of any use !!!! :-) :-) :-)

 

Well, now, have you spoken to the English about this? Let's hear the classical view from Dr. Johnson, which may still hold popularly:

 

"The noblest prospect which a Scotchman ever sees, is the high road that leads him to England!"
Boswell: Life

 

"He that travels in the Highlands may easily saturate his soul with intelligence, if he will acquiesce in the first account. The highlander gives to every question an answer so prompt and peremptory, that skepticism itself is dared into silence, and the mind sinks before the bold reporter in unresisting credulity; but, if a second question be ventured, it breaks the enchantment; for it is immediately discovered, that what was told so confidently was told at hazard, and that such fearlessness of assertion was either the sport of negligence, or the refuge of ignorance."
Johnson: Journey to the Western Islands of Scotland

 

He would not allow Scotland to derive any credit from Lord Mansfield; for he was educated in England. "Much may be made of a Scotchman, if he be caught young."
Boswell: Life

 

'Course to be fair we have the bigoted view towards the Irish as well:

 

The author of these memoirs will remember, that Johnson one day asked him, 'Have you observed the difference between your own country impudence and Scottish impudence?' The answer being in the negative: 'Then I will tell you,' said Johnson. 'The impudence of an Irishman is the impudence of a fly, that buzzes about you, and you put it away, but it returns again, and flutters and teazes you. The impudence of a Scotsman is the impudence of a leech, that fixes and sucks your blood.'
Arthur Murphy :Life and Genius of Samuel Johnson
 

But you've reminded me to see Braveheart and Rob Roy again sometime soon.

[JSixpack]

3 minutes ago, ravip said:

Of course we do!

Humour comes in many different flavours that it is misunderstood very often!

-or some pretend to misunderstand ;-)

 

Hence we have to endure that low Brit humor all the time here. Headline says "Pattaya Boomtown" and some Brit comes up with some brilliance like "they must have meant Boom Boom town!" Hee hee! And the crowd erupts in spontaneous applause and 30 likes get awarded right off the bat.

[champers]

6 minutes ago, JSixpack said:

 

Well, now, have you spoken to the English about this? Let's hear the classical view from Dr. Johnson, which may still hold popularly:

 

"The noblest prospect which a Scotchman ever sees, is the high road that leads him to England!"
Boswell: Life

 

"He that travels in the Highlands may easily saturate his soul with intelligence, if he will acquiesce in the first account. The highlander gives to every question an answer so prompt and peremptory, that skepticism itself is dared into silence, and the mind sinks before the bold reporter in unresisting credulity; but, if a second question be ventured, it breaks the enchantment; for it is immediately discovered, that what was told so confidently was told at hazard, and that such fearlessness of assertion was either the sport of negligence, or the refuge of ignorance."
Johnson: Journey to the Western Islands of Scotland

 

He would not allow Scotland to derive any credit from Lord Mansfield; for he was educated in England. "Much may be made of a Scotchman, if he be caught young."
Boswell: Life

 

'Course to be fair we have the bigoted view towards the Irish as well:

 

The author of these memoirs will remember, that Johnson one day asked him, 'Have you observed the difference between your own country impudence and Scottish impudence?' The answer being in the negative: 'Then I will tell you,' said Johnson. 'The impudence of an Irishman is the impudence of a fly, that buzzes about you, and you put it away, but it returns again, and flutters and teazes you. The impudence of a Scotsman is the impudence of a leech, that fixes and sucks your blood.'
Arthur Murphy :Life and Genius of Samuel Johnson
 

But you've reminded me to see Braveheart and Rob Roy again sometime soon.

My favourite part in Braveheart (filmed in Ireland and starring an Aussie) is when Mel Gibson (Wallace) gets disembowelled.

[DD13]

11 minutes ago, JSixpack said:

 

Well, now, have you spoken to the English about this? Let's hear the classical view from Dr. Johnson, which may still hold popularly:

 

"The noblest prospect which a Scotchman ever sees, is the high road that leads him to England!"
Boswell: Life

 

"He that travels in the Highlands may easily saturate his soul with intelligence, if he will acquiesce in the first account. The highlander gives to every question an answer so prompt and peremptory, that skepticism itself is dared into silence, and the mind sinks before the bold reporter in unresisting credulity; but, if a second question be ventured, it breaks the enchantment; for it is immediately discovered, that what was told so confidently was told at hazard, and that such fearlessness of assertion was either the sport of negligence, or the refuge of ignorance."
Johnson: Journey to the Western Islands of Scotland

 

He would not allow Scotland to derive any credit from Lord Mansfield; for he was educated in England. "Much may be made of a Scotchman, if he be caught young."
Boswell: Life

 

'Course to be fair we have the bigoted view towards the Irish as well:

 

The author of these memoirs will remember, that Johnson one day asked him, 'Have you observed the difference between your own country impudence and Scottish impudence?' The answer being in the negative: 'Then I will tell you,' said Johnson. 'The impudence of an Irishman is the impudence of a fly, that buzzes about you, and you put it away, but it returns again, and flutters and teazes you. The impudence of a Scotsman is the impudence of a leech, that fixes and sucks your blood.'
Arthur Murphy :Life and Genius of Samuel Johnson
 

But you've reminded me to see Braveheart and Rob Roy again sometime soon.

My golly "Jsix pack" didn't you set your alarm 

we've been at this for hours today

[impulse]

On 12/28/2017 at 9:21 PM, bkk6060 said:

Several times in the last couple months at a sports bar or restaurant, I have been asked by a Brit if I am from America .

Then it starts, some demeaning, negative, arrogant attack at me and at the US.

 

If you really wanna see contempt, go to a bar in Colorado and have them discover you're a Texan.  I was doing fine with my Yankee transplant accent.  But once they found out I lived in Texas, all conversation stopped...

 

Edit:  Which, BTW, was fine by me.

 

[goldenbrwn1]

I think most of this American discomfort with the Brits boils down to misunderstanding.  I am here in the UK right now and my cousin has recently married an American from Seattle . He came over for Christmas with his family and some friends (first visit to UK) 

 

After a night out with me and my friends, he said he could not believe that we were all actually friends.....he asked why are you all so horrible to each other!?   As I said...it's all just a misunderstanding...don't take it to heart.  Just like I love my mates...we Brits love you just the same. ?

[lovelomsak]

8 hours ago, ravip said:

"Brits believe ourselves to be superior to everyone else."

 

What a disgusting attitude/trait!

Centuries back they thought so and did things that ruined other countries, with results that could be seen even to-day.

Thank you for confirming it.

 

 

 

I think it was a joke. You must not understand english humor.

[ravip]

29 minutes ago, lovelomsak said:

I think it was a joke. You must not understand english humor.

Maybe...

[Meljames]

I blame the Brits.

[tryasimight]

On 12/28/2017 at 8:29 PM, lou62 said:

Can't say I've noticed it going on (I'm English), in Jomtien we all pretty much get on.

 

I meet an Irishman and a Canadian for a few drinks most nights. Sometimes Americans join us.

 

We have to get on as there's no one else.

Damn near close to 70 million other people in this country!!

[tryasimight]

On 12/30/2017 at 3:47 PM, chrisinth said:

 

I just posted this yesterday in another sub forum, but it pretty much applies to your experiences.

 

Sometimes we are all mates, it's just that senses of humour are a bit different at times........

 

 

Apology for the thread drift also.

I think that is a mis-quote....more likely attributed to the aussies.

[tryasimight]

On 12/30/2017 at 4:09 PM, JSixpack said:

 

Let's keep in mind that the USA is the #2 retirement destination for Brits after Australia, where they're known as Whinging Poms. Lot of jokes devoted to that topic, the classic being

 

"How do you know when a planeload of Poms has landed.....?"

"The engine stops but the whining noise goes on....."

 

I doubt many Poms could afford to,or meet the requirements to retire in Oz.

[tryasimight]

On 12/30/2017 at 7:03 PM, hugh2121 said:

It seems to be little known but most definitely factual. Poms (originally POHM's) are Australians. POHM stands for Prisoner Of His Majesty. Check it out.

Errr...no you are wrong. Nobody definitively knows where the the term pom comes from.Many speculate. But NONE were Australians, of that you can be sure.

[tryasimight]

On 12/30/2017 at 7:20 PM, torrzent said:

Better suited to the gay forum perhaps?