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Bipartisan U.S. Senate group crafts 'Dreamer' immigration plan

By Richard Cowan

 

An international passenger (L) arrives at Dulles International Airport as a man (R) waits for loved ones to arrive in Dulles, Virginia, U.S. September 24, 2017. REUTERS/James Lawler Duggan

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A bipartisan group of U.S. senators on Thursday reached a tentative agreement on legislation to protect young "Dreamer" immigrants from deportation, along with other immigration policy changes, and is attempting to build support for the deal in Congress.

 

The senators, three Democrats and three Republicans, "have reached an agreement in principle that addresses border security, the diversity visa lottery, chain migration/family reunification and the Dream Act," they wrote in a statement. "We are now working to build support for that deal in Congress."

 

Details of the plan were not immediately available.

 

The six senators are Democrats Dick Durbin, Michael Bennet and Robert Menendez and Republicans Lindsey Graham, Jeff Flake and Cory Gardner.

 

The proposal was to be presented to the White House for President Donald Trump's consideration before seeking passage in the Senate and House of Representatives.

 

At a White House meeting two days ago with a large group of lawmakers, Trump said he would accept whatever legislation Congress presents him. But conservatives have been pressing him to stand behind their efforts to curtail new immigration.

 

The Senate group has been working for months in hopes of crafting legislation that would prevent the around 750,000 illegal immigrants brought to the United States as children - known as Dreamers - from being subject to deportation after Trump ended a program providing them with temporary legal status and work permits.

 

Without action by Congress, the Dreamers, who are largely from Mexico and Central American countries, could be subject to deportation beginning in early March.

 

Senate negotiators were trying to get legislation assembled by next week so it could possibly be attached to a spending bill that Congress will have to pass to avoid government shutdowns after Jan. 19.

 

A thicket of controversial provisions has been under discussion, according to lawmakers, congressional aides and immigration experts outside of government.

 

For example, Democratic Representative Henry Cuellar said in a brief interview on Wednesday that the legislation should include protections from deportation for parents of Dreamers.

 

Many conservatives would balk at providing "amnesty" to parents who brought their families across the border illegally. One possible compromise, according to congressional aides, could be to let these parents receive temporary legal status that could be renewed every three years. But unlike their children, the parents would never be placed on a pathway to citizenship.

 

That could anger Dreamers and Hispanic groups who have long railed against creating a "second-class" category of people in the United States.

 

Also under consideration, according to congressional aides, is a plan to restructure the "diversity" immigrant visa program so that it no longer operates via a lottery system. The program, which aims to provide visas to people from countries with low rates of immigration to United States, currently distributes up to 50,000 visas a year.

 

A related initiative, according to congressional aides, would shore up the Temporary Protection Status program that has been under attack by the Trump administration.

 

Trump has decided, for example, to end the TPS status granted to about 200,000 people from El Salvador following a devastating earthquake in the central American country. TPS grants legal status to immigrants, allowing them to work.

 

A border security provision is likely to include more money for a mix of additional physical barriers and technology along the U.S. border with Mexico but probably not a border wall on the scale that Trump campaigned on in 2016.

 

For years, Congress has weighed clamping down on what conservatives call "chain migration," which opens the door for immediate relatives of legal immigrants to come the United States - often following a protracted wait time. It was not clear whether the senators' deal would somehow target parents or siblings seeking entry.

 

(Reporting by Richard Cowan; Editing by David Gregorio and Leslie Adler)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-01-12

[Srikcir]

Trump has already reversed himself in typical fashion, favoring his 30% base. He still demands his concrete wall and Mexico will pay for it!

 

[mrwebb8825]

Looks like President Trump has begun to light the fires under a few slow moving asses in both houses. If you hold the whole TPS  thing up to the light you'd see that it was to grant TEMPORARY protection to the El Salvadorians due to an earthquake that happened 17 years ago! People pissed and moaned about suspected terrorists being detained at GITMO "temporarily" for 2-4 years as over extending the term.

As for the dreamers, again, 17-20 years and none have applied for citizenship. Why? Because it would cut off the free ride on the government gravy train.

All these Hispanic Groups that are crying about the possible creation of "second-class citizens" should have been spending their time, money and effort on registering these illegals into the same citizenship process that they had to go through to even have the right to complain.

Way too many freaking Armchair(fill in the blank) types that all want to complain but don't want to get off their collective butts and do anything.

[ilostmypassword]

2 hours ago, mrwebb8825 said:

 

As for the dreamers, again, 17-20 years and none have applied for citizenship. Why? Because it would cut off the free ride on the government gravy train.

All these Hispanic Groups that are crying about the possible creation of "second-class citizens" should have been spending their time, money and effort on registering these illegals into the same citizenship process that they had to go through to even have the right to complain.

Way too many freaking Armchair(fill in the blank) types that all want to complain but don't want to get off their collective butts and do anything.

"As for the dreamers, again, 17-20 years and none have applied for citizenship. ."

Where did you get that falsehood from? 40000 dreamers got green cards which is  necessary step on the path to citizenship. But that's not going to happen anymore. You know why? Trump put a halt to A loophole that let them do it.

Another thing Trump stripped from 'Dreamers': A loophole that helped 40,000 of them get green cards

http://www.latimes.com/world/mexico-americas/la-fg-daca-mexico-20170907-story.html

 

"Why? Because it would cut off the free ride on the government gravy train"

I got more news for you. Dreamers aren't eligible for Federal Aid. 

 

Where do you get all your misinformation from?

 

 

 

[Scott]

The majority of the dreamers cannot get a green card or citizenship.  The same is true for those granted temporary status.  

 

Please stop posting mis-information.  

[mrwebb8825]

15 hours ago, Scott said:

The majority of the dreamers cannot get a green card or citizenship.  The same is true for those granted temporary status.  

 

Please stop posting mis-information.  

If they can't ever be productive citizens, can't ever vote, can't ever work legally, then why are we keeping them and whose been footing their bills for the past 20 years?

[boomerangutang]

Diane Feinstein, sitting at a giant table with dozens of politicians, incl the prez, asks: "What about a clean DACA bill now?"

 

Trump responds: "I have no problem with that."

 

Boomer responds:  The press corps and everyone else got suckered into believing Trump was good on his promise.  Ha ha ha ha ha.  Trump is a manipulating liar with decades of practice.  I didn't believe him for 2 seconds.  How can anyone believe anything that comes out of his dirty mouth?  Trump has no intention for a 'clean DACA' or any variation of DACA.

 

If you watch the beginning of the following video, you'll see a Trump aide, a woman sitting directly across from Feinstein, dressed in b&w dress, swiveling her head side to side (with a knowing grin on her face) the entire time Sen. Feinstein spoke.  

 

 

 

[Scott]

8 hours ago, mrwebb8825 said:

If they can't ever be productive citizens, can't ever vote, can't ever work legally, then why are we keeping them and whose been footing their bills for the past 20 years?

DACA is a program that allows them to stay, so they legally can work and they can attend school.   Those in the DACA program have to meet certain requirements.   If they do not fulfill those requirements, they can be deported.   Here are some:

 

You may request DACA if you:

1. Were under the age of 31 as of June 15, 2012;
2. Came to the United States before reaching your 16th birthday;
3. Have continuously resided in the United States since June 15, 2007, up to the present time;
4. Were physically present in the United States on June 15, 2012, and at the time of making your request for consideration of deferred action with USCIS;
5. Had no lawful status on June 15, 2012;
6. Are currently in school, have graduated or obtained a certificate of completion from high school, have obtained a general education development (GED) certificate, or are an honorably discharged veteran of the Coast Guard or Armed Forces of the United States; and
7. Have not been convicted of a felony, significant misdemeanor,or three or more other misdemeanors, and do not otherwise pose a threat to national security or public safety.

 

https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/consideration-deferred-action-childhood-arrivals-daca

 

[simple1]

8 hours ago, Scott said:

DACA is a program that allows them to stay, so they legally can work and they can attend school.   Those in the DACA program have to meet certain requirements.   If they do not fulfill those requirements, they can be deported.   Here are some:

 

You may request DACA if you:

1. Were under the age of 31 as of June 15, 2012;
2. Came to the United States before reaching your 16th birthday;
3. Have continuously resided in the United States since June 15, 2007, up to the present time;
4. Were physically present in the United States on June 15, 2012, and at the time of making your request for consideration of deferred action with USCIS;
5. Had no lawful status on June 15, 2012;
6. Are currently in school, have graduated or obtained a certificate of completion from high school, have obtained a general education development (GED) certificate, or are an honorably discharged veteran of the Coast Guard or Armed Forces of the United States; and
7. Have not been convicted of a felony, significant misdemeanor,or three or more other misdemeanors, and do not otherwise pose a threat to national security or public safety.

 

https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/consideration-deferred-action-childhood-arrivals-daca

 

Thanks Scott. I guess the info you provided is available online to members of the public. It does appear DACA critics on TV are deliberately posting misinformation for the purpose of propagating vilification for a political agenda.