webfact Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Police checkpoint blamed for accident as Malaysian "big bike" tourist dies in South Picture: Manager Online Thai media has suggested that a badly positioned police checkpoint on the Petchkasem Highway in Pattalung was responsible for an accident that killed a Malaysian tourist and seriously injured his wife. The tourists were on Big Bikes heading for Koh Samui with four friends when they collided with the back of a pick-up at a checkpoint near the Pa Bon police station. A total of four vehicles collided. The others were a car and pick-up. Manager said the problem was the positioning of cones on the road at a checkpoint for traffic infringements. The dead man who died at the scene was Mohammad Dreem, 38. His wife Ruree on the back of the bike was rushed to Pa Bon hospital in a serious condition. Source: Manager Online -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2018-01-17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith101 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Looks like a straight 2 lane road so i don't see how it could be badly positioned causing an accident , is it possible he just decided to take his bike through the traffic causing the accident himself ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 I am surprised that not more accidents happen at police checkpoints. They are an obstacle and there is no warning ahead. Sometimes you have to slow down because there suddenly is an unexpected congestion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Yeah, both checkpoints and traffic are dangerous things for people that do not look when driving. Straight road, No problem. He could see the checkpoint 200 meters away, but he didn´t see the car he drove into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Lack of attention to driving and traffic conditions are what killed him. Blaming checkpoint is like blaming the ground for killing some guy that jumps from 10th floor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Emster23 said: Lack of attention to driving and traffic conditions are what killed him. Blaming checkpoint is like blaming the ground for killing some guy that jumps from 10th floor And you know that how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogozy Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 There would be badly positioned, if the check point placed after a (sharp) curve. At this case, here are a very straight road. No anything make trouble, if You keep the speed of the traffic, include following distance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddDog Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlQaholic Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 22 minutes ago, Emster23 said: Lack of attention to driving and traffic conditions are what killed him. Blaming checkpoint is like blaming the ground for killing some guy that jumps from 10th floor Yeah, and on the way down, someone on the fifth floor asks "how are you?" and the guy answers "so far so good...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextStationBangkok Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Big bikes are exiting to ride. But most of them chase other cars and riding very close to them watching from sides, and miss the speed of the car in the front. Big bikes mostly out of control when they applied breaks. You take risks, until you die. Speed kills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masuk Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, NextStationBangkok said: Big bikes are exiting to ride. But most of them chase other cars and riding very close to them watching from sides, and miss the speed of the car in the front. Big bikes mostly out of control when they applied breaks. You take risks, until you die. Speed kills! The way the bikes are driven down most straight roads in Chiang Mai, I can't help thinking these guys are also looking for a quick 'exit'. A few traffic police would earn their salary 10x over. Traffic Police? hah hah hah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS1 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 If any of you actually ride bikes in Thailand you may have noticed how dangerous the checkpoints can be sometimes, particularly the illegal ones. I saw one under Don Mueang tollway, they had set up one the side of the 3-lane road and jumping in the middle of the road between cars. Only saw them maybe 20 meters before because of the traffic and had to do brake hard to not hit one of the idiots. Another time there was a checkpoint at Sunthon Kosa Rd near Khlong Toey, the first 2 lanes were blocked mainly by trucks and I was riding the outer lane within the speed limit at around 80km/h, until suddenly a cop jumped in front of me from behind a truck to stop me. Had to brake really hard to not hit him (thank god I had ABS). The <deleted> even fined me for "riding on the right lane" even though the other lanes were blocked with traffic. Both good examples of dangerous checkpoints on straight roads and in these cases they weren't visible until maybe 20 meters before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran00001 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 5 hours ago, keith101 said: Looks like a straight 2 lane road so i don't see how it could be badly positioned causing an accident , is it possible he just decided to take his bike through the traffic causing the accident himself ? If a road is straight then cones on the road cannot be badly positioned? How did you figure that one out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helloagain Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Fancy showing the dead man lying in the road, YOU HEARTLESS SODS, you disgust me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice4351 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Keith 101--are you on drugs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 Malaysian superbiker killed in accident in Pattalung Phattalung - A Malaysian superbike rider was killed while his wife was seriously injured in an accident along the Petchakasem Highway between Hatyai and Phattalung in southern Thailand on January 16. In the 4pm incident (local time), Muhammad Arif Suhery, 34, died at the scene. His wife Nur Arissa Ruri Ahon, 34, was riding pillion, Bernama reported. "They were in a convoy together with four friends on the way to Koh Samui in Surat Thani province when their machine collided with a vehicle that had suddenly stopped before a roadblock mounted by police,” said source from the Paborn police station here. Muhammad Arif's wife was sent o the Phattalung Hospital. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30336476 -- © Copyright The Nation 2018-01-17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran00001 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, helloagain said: Fancy showing the dead man lying in the road, YOU HEARTLESS SODS, you disgust me Welcome to Thailand, in Thailand you will find a culture sometimes at contrasts to your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextStationBangkok Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, masuk said: The way the bikes are driven down most straight roads in Chiang Mai, I can't help thinking these guys are also looking for a quick 'exit'. A few traffic police would earn their salary 10x over. Traffic Police? hah hah hah There are hotels offering these beasts for rent. An Arab look guy, neatly dress in white and white, wanted to test one of those and he made a turn, you see the BOOM, and he was the ground with bike on the top of his limbs. 3-4 people helped to lift the bike, and for sure it was broken. There come Ambulance... What a pity, he was taking a test ride on parking. I wish i didn't watch someone's limbs broken in front of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLang Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Speed and/or riding too close to the vehicle in front. It's a straight 2 lane road. If you can't stop in time if the vehicle in front suddenly stops, you're too close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 5 hours ago, keith101 said: Looks like a straight 2 lane road so i don't see how it could be badly positioned causing an accident , is it possible he just decided to take his bike through the traffic causing the accident himself ? Sometimes the police do not offer much warnings in front of their checkpoints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLang Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Inexperience could also be a factor. Position your bike to follow in the tracks of one of the front vehicles tyres. You will be in a better position to avoid a rear end collision if they suddenly stop, and will also see any obstacles that would hit your tyres as the car tyres would go over them first. Was riding once when a sack of cement suddenly came out from the underside of the car in front. As I was positioned behind the car's tyre I missed it. If I was directly behind the middle of the car it would have taken me out. I went past the car and in front of it was a pick-up truck with sacks of cement in the back and the door down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, DLang said: Speed and/or riding too close to the vehicle in front. It's a straight 2 lane road. If you can't stop in time if the vehicle in front suddenly stops, you're too close. I agree with you completely and in the final result it all comes down to excessive speed for the road conditions. I.e. do not drive fast behind a vehicle in front of you. Maintain proper distance..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taotoo Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 hour ago, fasteddie said: And you know that how? Probably cos he's yet to encounter a big bike riding sensibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, taotoo said: Probably cos he's yet to encounter a big bike riding sensibly. Please try to spread that advice to your big biker friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 RIP to the Malaysian gentleman, but....how many of us have gone through police checkpoints in this country? Countless times. Problems? Nope. So to blame a police checkpoint is rather puzzling. The reasonable explanation(s) would be the tourist's unfamiliarity with the roads, unfamiliarity with the bike itself, inattention, fatigue, perhaps speeding...any number of reasons. I'm not defending police checkpoints because they can be annoying. But the cause of death? Hard to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFLKrabi Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 22 minutes ago, DLang said: Speed and/or riding too close to the vehicle in front. It's a straight 2 lane road. If you can't stop in time if the vehicle in front suddenly stops, you're too close. Often the driver in front lurches to one side at the last minute to go through the checkpoint and you're left facing cones in front of you. Don't tell me this has never happened to any of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran00001 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Just now, TEFLKrabi said: Often the driver in front lurches to one side at the last minute to go through the checkpoint and you're left facing cones in front of you. Don't tell me this has never happened to any of you. Unless you are driving too close to the vehicle in front or too fast then no matter how late they chose to change lanes you should also have time to maneuver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandtee Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 hour ago, NextStationBangkok said: Big bikes are exiting to ride. But most of them chase other cars and riding very close to them watching from sides, and miss the speed of the car in the front. Big bikes mostly out of control when they applied breaks. You take risks, until you die. Speed kills! It seems the rider of this bike exited. RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kieran00001 said: Unless you are driving too close to the vehicle in front or too fast then no matter how late they chose to change lanes you should also have time to maneuver. Sorry my friend but that is not correct. A sudden swerve of the car in front takes away reaction time which is a part of stopping a vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Ray Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 The checkpoints are often badly marked with no advance warning signs which should be at 1 and 2 km in front. Most are permanent so hardly need to be kept secret. But in a land where road maintenance block lanes with one or no cones, not much chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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