webfact Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Deferred MP election bill could delay poll By THE NATION file photo Nov election unlikely as panel wants law effective only 90 days after promulgation. FEARS OF A delay in the promised election have risen following a reported attempt by the committee vetting the draft bill on MP election to stay its enforcement until 90 days after promulgation. The government’s legal experts said it was not unusual to postpone enforcement of new laws, but politicians warned that further delay of the election is not good for the junta’s image. A source close to the junta admitted yesterday that there was a suggestion to delay enforcement of the law. This was to complement the recent Article 44 order issued by the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) which amended the Political Parties Act, the source added. The order stated that after the organic law on the election of MPs is promulgated in the Royal Gazette, political parties and relevant agencies may discuss holding the general election. The source said the NCPO was afraid that if the MP election law were to be enforced early, the election would take place before November when it is tentatively scheduled to take place. “If the election takes place before November, it’s not good for the government. They need time to prepare the budget and bureaucratic transfers. Political parties also need time to prepare for the election,” the source said. However, another source familiar with the matter said that the delay could be an attempt to give new, pro-junta political parties more time to prepare for the election. “They will get three more months,” the source said. The 2017 Constitution states that the general election must take place within 150 days of four organic laws – on the Election Commission, political parties, MP elections, and the composition of the Senate – being promulgated. If enforcement of the MP election law is delayed by 90 days, the election would then have to take place within 240 days of its promulgation. The delay would prevent the election being held in November as junta leaders have promised. Deputy Prime Minister Wissanu Krea-ngam, who is in charge of legal affairs, said yesterday that the Constitution does not require that all new laws must take effect the day after it is promulgated. He said there were cases in which new laws were set to become effective 30, 60, 90 or 120 days after the promulgation. Asked if the delay would benefit newer political parties, Wissanu said the older ones would also gain. Norachit Singhaseni, spokesman of the Constitution Drafting Commission, which is charged with writing the organic laws, said yesterday that it was not unusual to delay enforcement of new laws, to avoid adverse impacts or to allow sufficient time for relevant agencies. He said that he was commenting on the matter as a member of the Council of State, which is the government’s legal advisory agency. Democrat Party politicians Nipit Intrasombat and Sathit Pitutecha expressed dissatisfaction over the possibility of an election delay. They said the government’s credibility was increasingly on the decline after repeated failures to keep its promise about the election. The Isra News Agency reported yesterday that the vetting committee, at their “secret meeting” on Tuesday, had agreed to amend Article 2 of the bill, which stipulates when enforcement of the law begins. The article says enforcement commences one day after the law is published in the Royal Gazette, but the committee’s amendment pushes enforcement back to 90 days after promulgation, the report said. Members of the vetting committee, however, denied the report, insisting the panel had not discussed or included such a stipulation in the bill. Taweesak Suthakavatin, spokesman for the vetting committee, dismissed the report yesterday. He insisted the panel did not discuss the matter, and reiterated that the current draft bill would be enforced one day after publication in the Royal Gazette. He said the committee would meet today to finalise the draft and then submit it to the National Legislative Assembly for further deliberation in the second and third readings next week. Seree Suwanpanon, another panel member, said it had convened a meeting on Wednesday but nothing about adding 90 extra days to the enforcement date had been discussed. He was not sure whether it was just someone spreading a rumour or an attempt to extend the time period to help the parties, giving them more time to conduct the primary or internal voting. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30336590 -- © Copyright The Nation 2018-01-19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon537687643 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Haha The junta madman will have his way Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topdoc Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 The Computer Crime Act bans spreading false information online... with the exception of poll dates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 This government is now the leading supplier of bullcrap in South East Asia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 MP-related law amendment not illegal: DPM BANGKOK, 19th January 2018 (NNT) – The Deputy Prime Minister, Wissanu Krea-ngam, said the amendment to the law governing qualifications of members of the House of Representatives is constitutional, while it is unclear whether changes will affect the election roadmap. Mr. Wissanu said regarding the attempt to amend the organic law regarding qualifications of members of the House of Representatives, with the new law to be effective after 90 days since the announcement in the government gazette, that the reasons behind this amendment should be out in a couple of days, while the amendment itself is not considered unconstitutional as the constitution only require the general election to be held within 150 days after the effective date of the last Act. The Deputy Prime Minister said he is not aware of the reason behind the decision to amend the law by the ad-hoc committee of the National Legislative Assembly (NLA). He said it is unclear whether or not this action will affect the election roadmap. It is also within the consideration of the NLA itself whether or not to consult this matter with the government. On the drafting of six local election laws which are expected to be proposed at the Cabinet meeting on January 23rd, 2018, Mr. Wissanu has said the cabinet will have to wait for the comment and additional law drafts from the Election Committee, postponing the proposal of this matter to the Cabinet to January 30th instead. -- nnt 2018-01-19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, webfact said: Mr. Wissanu said regarding the attempt to amend the organic law regarding qualifications of members of the House of Representatives couldn't the qualification simply be being a general? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 6 hours ago, webfact said: Deferred MP election bill could delay poll Deferred MP election bill could WILL delay poll..... corrected it for you, homie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peperobi Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Forget an election this year, and I'm sure that the Junta doesn't care about their image or reputation. The Junta will stay in power till they won't. PM Gen. Prayut is proud to be an army General and try to show how good is a politician.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark01 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 They've made a real pigs ear of things since they took power. Everything is worse. Nothing is better. And a few more millionaires now exist in Thailand. Land of hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Man Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 And the winner is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Man Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Gov of beating about the bush all the times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lawrence Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 6 hours ago, webfact said: Mr. Wissanu said regarding the attempt to amend the organic law regarding qualifications of members of the House of Representatives "Organic Law" what does this mean? Has to be cultivated. The "road map", "constitution", "qualifications" 6 hours ago, webfact said: that the reasons behind this amendment should be out in a couple of days, Out in a few days? Why? The use of their words, timing and generally holding off until their power becomes the only power, are a disappointment to many here on TV. We can't vote but we can voice our opinion in a subtle way. Meanwhile people still dying on the roads, juveniles being put in harms way, and the school system is not what it is cracked up to be. Toon still running for the hospitals so they can deliver a better service. Thai politicians need to focus on getting their house in order! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Chris Lawrence said: "Organic Law" what does this mean? Has to be cultivated. The "road map", "constitution", "qualifications" Frequently asked. My understanding: in Thailand a law stipulated by the Constitution, passage of which is scrutinized by the Constitutional Court to assure consistency with the Constitution before royal endorsement. See "The Constitutional System of Thailand: A Contextual Analysis," by Andrew Harding & Peter Leyland available in Google books, etc. If accepted by the Court, any subsequent amendment or revocation of such law requires a unique legislative process akin in my opinion to amending the Constitution itself. If the Constitutional Court has been politicalized to a particular ideology (ie., Thai-Style Democracy?), it may have virtual unchecked power (short of a junta's exercise of absolute power) to assure societal compliance - even when society as a whole (aka "majority electorate") may want to alter or replace such ideology. Edited January 19, 2018 by Srikcir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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