57 minutes ago, The manic said:

I too find Thais to be bad tempered. Their coolness is a myth 

Most of the stuff said about Thais is from TAT travel brochures, based on some utopian fairytale of the splendor of Thailand hundreds of years ago, which also never existed. Brilliant marketing they've done, have to say. The truth is just another SEA plot of land with the usual antics.

31 minutes ago, catman20 said:

maybe it depends where one lives in Thailand. Pattaya is full of it 

I'm sure that is true.. I live in a medium sized country town in Isaan.. a very different bunch of guys to the Pattaya crowd.. although a few do stray here.. but don't last long.  My friends.. like myself are family orientated.. some have land a do a bit of farming...  There are a lot of guys here that are socially awkward and for one reason or another keep to themselves.  It has taken a while but I have a group of friends who like to get together every month or so to share a meal.. at a restaurant or at one of our homes.. The main thing about these guys is that they reciprocate and are generous.. If I put on a big meal at home I get invited to their home or a restaurant where someone pays the bill.. never any squabbling over money.. but most importantly they are good company.  A variety of nationalities too.. Canadian, Australian.. Brits.. a Norwegian, a Dane.. and a French guy.. the ladies get along well too.. I go with the energy.. and am happy to put a bit of effort into developing friendships with like minded people.. I don't have time for those who complain all the time or never return my hospitality.. 

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

 That land you think you own is the property of the Thai who has the controlling interest in your company. Try reading the articles of association of your company- I'm assuming you can read Thai.

No i can not read Thai,i just arrived yesterday.Is there still hope for me?You do not know anything about me yet you assume a lot.My time to assume you are renting?

10 hours ago, gunderhill said:

If nobody ever complained about anything  the world would be a  seriously  screwed  up  place.

and it still wouldn't be as bad as Thailand LOL

Cant be bothered to read these dreamed up 10 rules, be nice and you will be fine.

34 minutes ago, Tilacme said:

Cant be bothered to read these dreamed up 10 rules, be nice and you will be fine.

Be  nice and get walked  all over , they'll take  full advantage

3 hours ago, janclaes47 said:

 

If you've never been in Pataya, as you claim, then why are you doing your utter best to slag it off with your baiting posts?

 

You must feel very superior.

There you go again Sverige. Money or superiority complex's are your thing. I've been through pattaya to go to mae phim that is it. I slag it off as most do its nationally slagged off too. I live in Issan. Horses for courses.

Not losing your temper is a trait which most Thais at least aspire to and admire in others, but plenty fall short. The problem for foreigners is that while Thais are usually fairly forgiving of one another after they lose their cool, if a foreigner goes apeshit, they risk being branded as a hothead for life. Although I strongly agree that there's some cultural mythology in play here, my advice would be to continue to play along as much as possible, if for no other reason than it greatly reduces the likelihood that a verbal dispute escalates into physical violence.

 

 

2 hours ago, Laza 45 said:

I'm sure that is true.. I live in a medium sized country town in Isaan.. a very different bunch of guys to the Pattaya crowd.. although a few do stray here.. but don't last long.  My friends.. like myself are family orientated.. some have land a do a bit of farming...  There are a lot of guys here that are socially awkward and for one reason or another keep to themselves.  It has taken a while but I have a group of friends who like to get together every month or so to share a meal.. at a restaurant or at one of our homes.. The main thing about these guys is that they reciprocate and are generous.. If I put on a big meal at home I get invited to their home or a restaurant where someone pays the bill.. never any squabbling over money.. but most importantly they are good company.  A variety of nationalities too.. Canadian, Australian.. Brits.. a Norwegian, a Dane.. and a French guy.. the ladies get along well too.. I go with the energy.. and am happy to put a bit of effort into developing friendships with like minded people.. I don't have time for those who complain all the time or never return my hospitality.. 

Ditto.  I lived in Chiang Mai most of the time I was in Thailand had some really good friends there.  Most have now moved on but some are still there and we are still friends and I always have places to stay.  There is often a certain ex-pat comradery which is born from similarity rather than differences. For example if I was hitting the nightspots of Pattaya every night I am sure I would have a very different set of friends to the ones I had where I lived.  It's all horses for courses and Thailand has it's attractions for many different reasons and for all sorts of people.

54 minutes ago, gunderhill said:

Be  nice and get walked  all over , they'll take  full advantage

Depends on your character 

11 hours ago, StayinThailand2much said:

Haven't met one in 20 odd years, coming to Thailand. Maybe searching for them in the wrong places... 

I met one who claimed to be an ex-marine but he did not put up much of a fight (a bit of a dis-appointment).

1 hour ago, gunderhill said:

Be  nice and get walked  all over , they'll take  full advantage

There are many different ways to peel an orange.  I survived for fourteen years in Thailand  by always trying to smile and be nice.  Didn't always achieve it but when I started losing my cool and shouting I always ended up being the loser.  My wife taught me how to get my own way in Thailand and it wasn't by losing my temper.

25 minutes ago, Tilacme said:

Depends on your character 

I don't think it's as simple as that. Years ago, I was much more trusting than I am today. If someone looked me in the eye and promised they would do something, I tended to believe them. Then I went through a phase where I thought it was all in the eyes. That if I projected friendliness but was nobody's fool, that that would do the trick. The truth is that there are simply people here who try to take advantage of you no matter how you act. Some people act friendly as a prelude to taking advantage of you. I'm currently of the opinion that mixing business and friendship is kind of risky here. Lots of times people try to exploit the friendship for business advantage. To say that all this can be avoided with the right attitude or character is a bit of a stretch in my opinion.

12 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

To say that all this can be avoided with the right attitude or character is a bit of a stretch in my opinion.

That is valid.  But you can be savvy and keep smiling as well.  Works for Richard Branson

1 minute ago, dunroaming said:

That is valid.  But you can be savvy and keep smiling as well.  Works for Richard Branson

Was just getting ready to ask if you cared to share any of the wisdom imparted by your wife.

Right at the end of the article it comes out with..."A few days on Thai Visa would make you think that all expats ever do is whinge and complain about life in the Land of Smiles. It’s a bad example of expat life and most of us find our way through these challenges with a bit of patience, grace, a good book or a smartphone with a full charge. "

 

Which made me giggle....

13 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

Was just getting ready to ask if you cared to share any of the wisdom imparted by your wife.

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13 hours ago, ukrules said:

 

 

 

Rubbish, Thai people lose their temper, shout and scream and do anything they can to try and get their own way and that's just one example I saw in the Banana IT computer shop in Market Village, Hua Hin.

Bumps you mean towerblock falls don't you, how is the new job goin?

14 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

Good, well-written article that should be given to all who come here for a long stay!

 

However,

 

"The 20-something bar girl with the short skirt and fetching smile probably doesn’t love you."

 

is just plain wrong. They have told me on numerous occasions that they love me and I believe them.

 

 

I have a 20 year old girlfriend and I am currently 61. And she definitely loves me and I love her and it's the best relationship I've ever had in my life. I guess she's one in a million.

12 hours ago, bluesofa said:

You obviously don't mix with the right sort of bullsh!ters.

There are loads around here silly ass sods and Not Savey often confused with navy Seals

1 minute ago, Ban Sao 420 said:

I have a 20 year old girlfriend and I am currently 61. And she definitely loves me and I love her and it's the best relationship I've ever had in my life. I guess she's one in a million.

Good for you pal.

2 minutes ago, Ban Sao 420 said:

I have a 20 year old girlfriend and I am currently 61. And she definitely loves me and I love her and it's the best relationship I've ever had in my life. I guess she's one in a million.

Good hope it lasts for you, but beware the chopper and keep the financials hidden

19 minutes ago, Ban Sao 420 said:

I have a 20 year old girlfriend and I am currently 61. And she definitely loves me and I love her and it's the best relationship I've ever had in my life. I guess she's one in a million.

Having a 'girlfriend' young enough to be your granddaughter is not something most normal people would boast about, creepy in the extreme. 

It's hard to be around Thai`s all the time.

This article is inaccurate as the country has been colonized by the Chinese, the biggest number of people living outside of China live in Thailand. They control every facet of society. 

 

With regards to corruption, it's corruption nothing more, nothing less. Don't try and paint a rosy picture that it is justified, it's not!

1 hour ago, Orton Rd said:

Having a 'girlfriend' young enough to be your granddaughter is not something most normal people would boast about, creepy in the extreme. 

But most normal people don't live in Thailand where the rules are very different.  I say enjoy it while it lasts.  At 61 you are entitled to indulge yourself in the odd fantasy or two.

6 hours ago, Laza 45 said:

I'm sure that is true.. I live in a medium sized country town in Isaan.. a very different bunch of guys to the Pattaya crowd.. although a few do stray here.. but don't last long.  My friends.. like myself are family orientated.. some have land a do a bit of farming...  There are a lot of guys here that are socially awkward and for one reason or another keep to themselves.  It has taken a while but I have a group of friends who like to get together every month or so to share a meal.. at a restaurant or at one of our homes.. The main thing about these guys is that they reciprocate and are generous.. If I put on a big meal at home I get invited to their home or a restaurant where someone pays the bill.. never any squabbling over money.. but most importantly they are good company.  A variety of nationalities too.. Canadian, Australian.. Brits.. a Norwegian, a Dane.. and a French guy.. the ladies get along well too.. I go with the energy.. and am happy to put a bit of effort into developing friendships with like minded people.. I don't have time for those who complain all the time or never return my hospitality.. 

i hear what your saying i live in pattaya i cant say the same maybe im just to honest i cant listen to all the BS with farang people men and women and get in problems all the time, i long for the day my sex drive subsides i meet a descent women and move away from these people. the best friends i have here are Thai girlfriends. i have a great girl that i would settle with but i still have a roving eye.

All laws in Thailand. It's easier to ask what to do

1 hour ago, dunroaming said:

But most normal people don't live in Thailand where the rules are very different.  I say enjoy it while it lasts.  At 61 you are entitled to indulge yourself in the odd fantasy or two.

Absolutely. You feel as young as the girl You are feeling. As long as it is legal.When women have toy boys they are praised for being liberated!

Last year I was going for a  visa situation  and while talking with the IO he was supposed to be a hard person to deal with according to my frang neighbour but to my surprise the IO was having coffee served by a secretary right at his desk and offered me one coffee also SURPRISE and after I was charged 1900 tb I did give 2000  and put the 100 tb into a little glass jar so to thank him for the coffee  it was a pleasant visit.