UDD leader accuses junta of ‘subversion’ red herring after arrest

[webfact]

UDD leader accuses junta of ‘subversion’ red herring after arrest

By The Nation

 

File photo : Weng

 

A RED-SHIRT leader has cried foul after the arrest of a colleague and questioned whether it had merely been a convenient distraction from the junta’s growing unpopularity.

 

Weng Tojirakarn, a prominent member of the red-shirt umbrella group the United Front for Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD), claimed red-shirt supporters were always the targets accused of subversion. 

 

His remark came after the police raided a condominium in Nonthaburi on Monday night and reportedly found several bombs linked to red-shirt hardliner Wuttipong “Ko Tee” Kotthammakhun.

 

Rirkchapol Poolsilp, 53, a Yala resident, was arrested after an M26 grenade, four home-made small bombs, two pipe bombs and 20 large firecrackers were found in a room at Muang Thong Thani Condominium.

 

Deputy Police Commissioner General Pol General Srivara Ransibrahmanakul said Rirkchapol had admitted that he was a red-shirt military leader under Wuttipong’s leadership.

 

Srivara said the arrest had not been staged and Rirkchapol was among 27 red-shirt supporters being monitored by police.

 

The bombs found in the room were the same type used in the attack at the Ratchaprasong Intersection in 2014, he said.

 

However, Weng said the police account was highly questionable considering the arrest took place just as the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) was under pressure on several fronts. 

 

The junta is under pressure after Defence Minister General Prawit Wongsuwan has been widely criticised for allegedly owning dozens of luxury watches and demonstrations were also stepping up calls for an election to be held in November as previously promised. 

 

“Now, everything is just going hard on PM General Prayut Chan-o-cha, so the arrest could have some hidden agenda or could be an attempt to bury the junta’s unfavourable news,” Weng said. 

 

Last November, police also found bombs and military-grade weapons in Chachoengsao province and linked the find with Wuttipong.

 

Wuttipong has been accused of lese majeste and fled the country after the 2014 coup. Red-shirt supporters have said that he might have been killed following reports that he had been abducted by unidentified men.

 

Weng has urged the police to provide full details of all arrests involving red-shirt supporters as well as progress on the Chachoengsao case.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30338780

 

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2018-02-14

 

[greenchair]

When was kotee last heard from? ?

[candide]

3 hours ago, greenchair said:

When was kotee last heard from? ?

Just call them!

[Baerboxer]

Wonder who appointed his to be a UDD leader? 

 

How ironic that they don't seem to worry about democracy when it comes to getting their place at the trough.

[robblok]

Yea again denying it, an army setup... pfff just admit it that there are a lot of stupid and violent people in your supporters.

 

How could the army set this up... this was triggered by a guy not paying his rent and electricity and a cleaner going in and finding stuff who then alerted the police. Totally different from a raid by the police on a location of their choosing (that is easy to setup).

 

Nonthaburi was Ko Thee his hunting grounds, that is where he attacked the anti government protesters, the cache was in Nothaburi, the suspect links it to Ko Tee.. just a solid case.

 

Maybe the redshirts should hire more competent terrorists. 

[AGareth2]

3 minutes ago, robblok said:

the suspect links it to Ko Tee.. just a solid case.

I think it will be tough doing Ko Tee for this one!

[robblok]

2 minutes ago, AGareth2 said:

I think it will be tough doing Ko Tee for this one!

Why ? the room was rented 5 years ago its not like they think the bombs are a recent thing. Just some leftovers from the time they were killing the anti goverment protesters. Its not like they accuse Ko Tee of having this done recently. Nobody can find the guy he has long since escaped. But that does not mean he was not guilty of this in the past. This would not have even been found out if the guy just paid the rent. 

 

Typical red shirt propaganda that it not theirs, trying to uphold an image of non violence while everyone knows that is not true. 

[AGareth2]

3 minutes ago, robblok said:

Why ?

he's dead!

[robblok]

1 minute ago, AGareth2 said:

he's dead!

Dead.. escaped... whatever.. but that does not mean he cannot be linked to this.. If he is dead or escaped he can't be punished for it that is true. But it does not make him innocent. That was the point i was making. 

[Bluespunk]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

Weng Tojirakarn, a prominent member of the red-shirt umbrella group the United Front for Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD), claimed red-shirt supporters were always the targets accused of subversion.

You do know, that the person arrested had weaponry of a highly destructive nature in their room, don’t you weng? 

[robblok]

Just for the record, I don't think this is recent or that it should be used to tighten up security. This is just some old ordnance from the street protesting days not a recent plot to place bombs. 

[AGareth2]

1 minute ago, robblok said:

Just for the record, I don't think this is recent or that it should be used to tighten up security. This is just some old ordnance from the street protesting days not a recent plot to place bombs. 

but will make a grand excuse for claiming violent unrest 

[robblok]

1 minute ago, AGareth2 said:

but will make a grand excuse for claiming violent unrest 

It will probably be used for that, totally untrue of course nobody is going to bomb anything right now. It would not be in their best interests, it would be great for the junta if it happened though. I would place question marks by the validity of anything recent, I don't place much question marks by finds of old ordnance as there obviously was plenty going around during the street protests. 

[greenchair]

28 minutes ago, robblok said:

Yea again denying it, an army setup... pfff just admit it that there are a lot of stupid and violent people in your supporters.

 

How could the army set this up... this was triggered by a guy not paying his rent and electricity and a cleaner going in and finding stuff who then alerted the police. Totally different from a raid by the police on a location of their choosing (that is easy to setup).

 

Nonthaburi was Ko Thee his hunting grounds, that is where he attacked the anti government protesters, the cache was in Nothaburi, the suspect links it to Ko Tee.. just a solid case.

 

Maybe the redshirts should hire more competent terrorists. 

So by your reasoning, every house in nonthaburi that has guns is commanded by kotee. The suspect had links to kotee could be a picture on the wall. 

Kotee hasn't been heard from for months ,he's dead or hidden in a secret army prison. 

Kotee has got nothing to do with nothing at the moment. 

 

[robblok]

1 minute ago, greenchair said:

So by your reasoning, every house in nonthaburi that has guns is commanded by kotee. The suspect had links to kotee could be a picture on the wall. 

Kotee hasn't been heard from for months ,he's dead or hidden in a secret army prison. 

Kotee has got nothing to do with nothing at the moment. 

 

I am sorry I will try to spell it out for you so you can understand.

 

These are old weapons, the room was hired 5 years ago. Nobody is accusing Ko Tee of doing anything recent. Like you said he is dead or hidden or in a secret army prison. That does not clear him from connection as this is old stuff nothing recent. The guy they arrested has confessed and linked it to Ko Tee. That is pretty solid evidence (just like the grenades and bombs in that room). 

 

So my reasoning is simple.. Ko Tee was a red shirt terrorist leader in the Nothaburi area during the street protests that brought YL her government down. These are old weapons room was rented long ago, the suspect confessed and linked it to Ko Tee. That is all quite reasonable as Ko Tee was during that time the leader there and responsible for a lot of violence. 

 

Just some old weapons from during the street protest time, not a recent plot to do any violence.

[greenchair]

40 minutes ago, robblok said:

I am sorry I will try to spell it out for you so you can understand.

 

These are old weapons, the room was hired 5 years ago. Nobody is accusing Ko Tee of doing anything recent. Like you said he is dead or hidden or in a secret army prison. That does not clear him from connection as this is old stuff nothing recent. The guy they arrested has confessed and linked it to Ko Tee. That is pretty solid evidence (just like the grenades and bombs in that room). 

 

So my reasoning is simple.. Ko Tee was a red shirt terrorist leader in the Nothaburi area during the street protests that brought YL her government down. These are old weapons room was rented long ago, the suspect confessed and linked it to Ko Tee. That is all quite reasonable as Ko Tee was during that time the leader there and responsible for a lot of violence. 

 

Just some old weapons from during the street protest time, not a recent plot to do any violence.

Let me respond. 

Every cache of weapons discovered since 2014, from here to timbucktoo is apparently linked to kotee. All of the owners have "confessed" and have a "link" to kotee. 

A few years ago when they were trying to extradite him for LM,they were not able to because there was no evidence he had committed an offence that is recognised internationaly. 

Suddenly, there was a large cache of weapons found "linked" to him. 

So they continued efforts to extradite him. 

Then he disappeared. 

[humbug]

This bunch are comedians using the intimitation tactic for any one looking to join the protests and trying to scare the current protesters by bringing up the 1970's with arresting any one they choose and planting the olde rebelion/revolution sub plot 

 

The only ones who WANT to believe this are the beurocrats their backers including the CPgroup et all along with a few hangers on in the middle class.

Edited February 14, 2018 by humbug

[khunken]

1 hour ago, greenchair said:

Let me respond. 

Every cache of weapons discovered since 2014, from here to timbucktoo is apparently linked to kotee. All of the owners have "confessed" and have a "link" to kotee. 

A few years ago when they were trying to extradite him for LM,they were not able to because there was no evidence he had committed an offence that is recognised internationaly. 

Suddenly, there was a large cache of weapons found "linked" to him. 

So they continued efforts to extradite him. 

Then he disappeared. 

No that's a straw man. Not every cache of weapons has been linked to Kotee, just some of them which is not surprising given that he led a violent militia. A militia with members so it's also not surprising that some of those members have been caught.

 

It is a pity that Weng, not personally a violent person, defends Kotee & his members who the red shirts would be better off without if they ever want to become a political party.

 

[greenchair]

14 hours ago, khunken said:

No that's a straw man. Not every cache of weapons has been linked to Kotee, just some of them which is not surprising given that he led a violent militia. A militia with members so it's also not surprising that some of those members have been caught.

 

It is a pity that Weng, not personally a violent person, defends Kotee & his members who the red shirts would be better off without if they ever want to become a political party.

 

His true crime was LM. 

He did lead a group of people to defend the elected government, at the time the popcorn man shot people. A Group of old villagers going to fight another group of villagers, sure, violent militia, that's just laughable. 

"Want to become a political party" .

Are you serious? 

They are a strong political party that unfortunately according to some ,win every election. 

They are so popular that elections are no longer permitted, because the other lame ass parties couldn't and can't win. 

[khunken]

9 hours ago, greenchair said:

His true crime was LM. 

He did lead a group of people to defend the elected government, at the time the popcorn man shot people. A Group of old villagers going to fight another group of villagers, sure, violent militia, that's just laughable. 

"Want to become a political party" .

Are you serious? 

They are a strong political party that unfortunately according to some ,win every election. 

They are so popular that elections are no longer permitted, because the other lame ass parties couldn't and can't win. 

You haven't got one thing right in the above rubbish.

First his 'true crime' wasn't LM - that's just an add-on to the weapons his militia used against the PDRC on Chang wattana & Laksi. He  was supported by the lying CAPO-instructed police. There are numerous articles on the web about how violent Kotee's militia was.

 

The red-shirts, who Weng is one of the leaders, are NOT a political party. Your ignorance of the difference between PTP & the red-shirts is palpable. Personally I would like to see the UDD form a political party, without Thaksin's insidious leadership & money.

BTW all the forecasts, crystal-gazing & love for Thaksin's parties by ignorant Farangs doesn't mean a thing. It's even less accurate than most of the half-baked polls here.

[greenchair]

5 hours ago, khunken said:

You haven't got one thing right in the above rubbish.

First his 'true crime' wasn't LM - that's just an add-on to the weapons his militia used against the PDRC on Chang wattana & Laksi. He  was supported by the lying CAPO-instructed police. There are numerous articles on the web about how violent Kotee's militia was.

 

The red-shirts, who Weng is one of the leaders, are NOT a political party. Your ignorance of the difference between PTP & the red-shirts is palpable. Personally I would like to see the UDD form a political party, without Thaksin's insidious leadership & money.

BTW all the forecasts, crystal-gazing & love for Thaksin's parties by ignorant Farangs doesn't mean a thing. It's even less accurate than most of the half-baked polls here.

They wanted him for LM.