wavemanwww Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 14 minutes ago, impulse said: A while back, discussing this same topic, I posted close-up photos of a popular brand where the only way to tell if it had been opened before was to snap it open. Which is a little too late to return it if it had been refilled. I may have also posted photos of a family of rats playing on top of an opened case of drinking water outside a local 8-12 or other store with a similar name. (Defamation laws, don't you know) I'm going to miss those seals, which are a tiny percent of a percent of the waste problem here in Thailand. Yet serve at least 2 very useful purposes. You sound like a learned man. Here is a scientific fact recently disclosed. The Australian Govt's marine scientists said one of the reason the Great Barrier Reef is dying is because they estimate 11 BILLION plastic bags which originated from Thailand is part of the reason. They did DNA on the plastic to verify it's origin. Plus not counting sean animals eating the plastic as they think it's food, Now statistically lets say every one in Thailand drinks just 2 bottles of water a day plus tourists then the daily litter cap wrapper, which ends up in drains and then the sea, well my quick calculation means that (Thai population 38 million +9 million tourists) 47 million * 2 bottles = 94 million little plastic wrappers on caps EVERY DAY adds to the environmental damage and that's just from Thailand and not including the plastic bottles. So are you still going to miss those seals which you state is a tiny percent of the waste problem and serve you two purposes that keep YOU safe and cosy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgdanson Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 minute ago, wavemanwww said: (Thai population 38 million And the rest. Is it not over 70 million? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttrd Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 3 hours ago, coulson said: Good one, but its too early.... Hmmm, 1st of April - it may end up as a joke...;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttrd Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, wavemanwww said: You sound like a learned man. Here is a scientific fact recently disclosed. The Australian Govt's marine scientists said one of the reason the Great Barrier Reef is dying is because they estimate 11 BILLION plastic bags which originated from Thailand is part of the reason. They did DNA on the plastic to verify it's origin. Plus not counting sean animals eating the plastic as they think it's food, Now statistically lets say every one in Thailand drinks just 2 bottles of water a day plus tourists then the daily litter cap wrapper, which ends up in drains and then the sea, well my quick calculation means that (Thai population 38 million +9 million tourists) 47 million * 2 bottles = 94 million little plastic wrappers on caps EVERY DAY adds to the environmental damage and that's just from Thailand and not including the plastic bottles. So are you still going to miss those seals which you state is a tiny percent of the waste problem and serve you two purposes that keep YOU safe and cosy! I am totally agree with you, except when it comes to the number of 38m - it seems like you have seen just half of Thailand... Edited February 14, 2018 by ttrd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavemanwww Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, wgdanson said: And the rest. Is it not over 70 million? Huh?? I stated it as 38 million population but times that by 2 bottles of water each or is your maths rusty? Plus 9 million tourists times two bottles each. http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/thailand-population/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavemanwww Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, ttrd said: I am totally agree with you, except when it comes to the number of 38m - it seems like you have seen just half of Thailand... LOL I got that number from google search. Sorry it does not include illegal immigrants etc http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/thailand-population/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenewgoo Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 This will take some getting used to. Culturally those seals are a security blanket that the water is fresh and untampered with. I guess the cap seal is all important now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coulson Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 29 minutes ago, wavemanwww said: (Thai population 38 million +9 million tourists) 47 million * 2 bottles = 94 million little plastic wrappers on caps EVERY DAY 9,000,000 tourists per day? You should apply for work at TAT 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Thank goodness for that, they were a bl--dy nuisance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 3 hours ago, DavoTheGun said: This was announced 2 Years ago, nothing happened, will not hold my breath! Maybe a 24 hour crackdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavemanwww Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 minute ago, coulson said: 9,000,000 tourists per day? You should apply for work at TAT Geeze ok lets totally take out the tourist number, whatever it is in Thailand daily who would drink at least 4 bottles a day BUT the amount of plastic is still a HUGE AMOUNT killing life on this planet. Pedantic critics here. I am not typing a Thesis you know just stressing in basic maths terms the severe IMPACT on your future your children's future and their children's future OK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) 45 minutes ago, wavemanwww said: Here is a scientific fact recently disclosed. The Australian Govt's marine scientists said one of the reason the Great Barrier Reef is dying is because they estimate 11 BILLION plastic bags which originated from Thailand is part of the reason. They did DNA on the plastic to verify it's origin. Plus not counting ean animals eating the plastic as they think it's food, .... So are you still going to miss those seals which you state is a tiny percent of the waste problem and serve you two purposes that keep YOU safe and cosy! What do plastic bags have to do with the water seals they're banning? Thailand's problem isn't the amount of waste. It's the lack of facilities to handle the waste. Cutting back the 1/8 of a pound of plastic seals that I probably go through in a year isn't going to dent my carbon (or waste) footprint. Or save the reefs. But they may save me from ingesting rat pee or dodgy refilled tap water. And for that, I'm not going to apologize. Any more than I'd expect you to apologize for the tons of carbon spewed on your behalf and the gallons of oil you consumed flying to Thailand. Which dwarfs my tiny little water bottle seals. Edited February 14, 2018 by impulse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wump Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 3 hours ago, tifino said: well, this'll make it much easier for local business, in refilling recycled bottles, without needing to bother about defeating any tamperpoof You really think people would do that? Then why is there no fake beer? There is no seal, the margin would be way higher and lids are easy to pop back on. You are scaremongering.... just buy your stuff at Seven then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttrd Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 32 minutes ago, wavemanwww said: LOL I got that number from google search. Sorry it does not include illegal immigrants etc http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/thailand-population/ Population Thailand - 69 128 582 http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/thailand-population/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odysseus123 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 I thought the population was 65-70 million. I agree that it is hard to tell as they breed like rabbits..pass the lettuce if you please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wump Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 And by the way. The most expensive local water (Aura) never had any seals. How come it was never faked? The 'safety' aspect is just bullshit. Nobody refills any water bottles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavemanwww Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, impulse said: What do plastic bags have to do with the water seals they're banning? Thailand's problem isn't the amount of waste. It's the lack of facilities to handle the waste. Cutting back the 1/8 of a pound of plastic seals that I probably go through in a year isn't going to dent my carbon (or waste) footprint. Or save the reefs. But they may save me from ingesting rat pee or dodgy refilled tap water. And for that, I'm not going to apologize. No need to apologize and I never asked for one. You believe in what you want to believe to make sure your life is lengthened and yet at the same time not think about the rest of mankind or nature, That's your choice! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvavin Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 They need a very long time to realize this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavemanwww Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, ttrd said: Population Thailand - 69 128 582 http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/thailand-population/ zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wump Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Odysseus123 said: I thought the population was 65-70 million. I agree that it is hard to tell as they breed like rabbits..pass the lettuce if you please. They don't. This is not the Philippines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttrd Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, wavemanwww said: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz LOL, this time I need to say as during mulitasking I manage to oversee your link... Edited February 14, 2018 by ttrd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odysseus123 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, wump said: They don't. This is not the Philippines. You ain't seen Isaan then. The Thai middle class may have restricted their breeding but the rural poor have merely cut it down from about 10 to to 3 or 4. As none of them work they have to bring in Laotians and Cambodians to take their place. Edited February 14, 2018 by Odysseus123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Crustyhk Posted February 14, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 14, 2018 Sat in my hotel room in Chiang mai looking out the window as a family on the balcony next door filled hundreds of used bottles from a garden hose and fitted shiny new caps with a mallet. No little tear off seal though. That's why I always buy bottles with the heat shrink sleeve when in South East Asia 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 16 minutes ago, wavemanwww said: No need to apologize and I never asked for one. You believe in what you want to believe to make sure your life is lengthened and yet at the same time not think about the rest of mankind or nature, That's your choice! I think that Rubicon was crossed when I decided to drink bottled water and not out of the tap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wump Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 This is the country average so it doesn't really matter which region has the higher rates. The average matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odysseus123 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Just now, wump said: This is the country average so it doesn't really matter which region has the higher rates. The average matters. Sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tukpong Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Hmmm but how to stop the incredible stupid idiots burning plastic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odysseus123 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Just now, tukpong said: Hmmm but how to stop the incredible stupid idiots burning plastic Impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wump Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 minute ago, tukpong said: Hmmm but how to stop the incredible stupid idiots burning plastic Better than just chucking it in the river... Indian style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odysseus123 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 24 minutes ago, wump said: Better than just chucking it in the river... Indian style. Yep-a dung heap is by any other name-a dung heap,Thai style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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