Popular Post rooster59 Posted February 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2018 Thaivisa exclusive: Aussie bound biker stranded in Thailand talks to Thaivisa after being dumped off plane in Bangkok Thaivisa have spoken to a British man who was dumped off a Perth bound plane at Suvarnabhumi airport. He said that airline staff told him that he has no permission to go to Australia. Kevin Lawrence, 56, has lived in Australia on a Permanent Residence visa for 50 years after going there with his British parents. He has an Australian partner and three children aged 12, 10 and 7 waiting for him in Perth. He has worked for the same fertilizer company for 35 years. Mr Lawrence told Thaivisa that he suspects that he has been denied to return to Australia because of his connections to the Perth based Rebels motorcycle gang. He said that he is a man of good character but is being portrayed as the opposite. He admitted to having two counts of assault against his name. But that was 25 years ago and he has been in no trouble since. Mr Lawrence, pictured with his family, also has a grown up 32 year old daughter who has given him two grandchildren. He passed through immigration and customs before airline staff offloaded him saying that his Australian residence had been cancelled. No Thai immigration were involved in this process, he said. But left without a visa in Thailand he paid a lawyer $2,000 AUS to arrange a Thai retirement visa for him after being denied leaving on Wednesday. He said this gave him permission to be in Thailand for a year but he wants to get home. Now another lawyer in Australia has asked for $6,000 AUS up front to look into his case as his desperate wife and children await news. Mr Lawrence said that he came to Pattaya for a bike week on 8th February and was leaving on the 14th to return to his family and job. It all came as a complete surprise. He has taken steps to resign from the Rebels gang and said he wants to remove his tattoos. "I think it is connected to my membership of the Rebels," he said. "I have been a member for ten years but I am not involved in drugs or anything illegal". Now running out of money he has returned to Pattaya as he awaits news of his uncertain future. He said he has a mortgage and children in private schools in Australia. Biker gangs - especially the Hell's Angels - have come under scrutiny in Thailand especially in recent months. -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2018-02-17 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cornishcarlos Posted February 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, rooster59 said: He has taken steps to resign from the Rebels gang Oh no son, once in you're in for life.. Hasn't he watched Sons Of Anarchy :) 15 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rebo Posted February 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2018 19 minutes ago, rooster59 said: this gave him permission to be in Thailand for a year according to the slogan "Good guys in ..." ... 3 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cornishcarlos Posted February 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2018 Living on PR for 50yrs ?? Should have gone for Citizenship... 16 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post darksidedog Posted February 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2018 Sounds a little odd. Unless a genuine mistake has been made, I suspect there is more to this story than we are being told. I lived in Oz for 7 years and never heard of Permanent residence being cancelled unless you were convicted of something fairly serious. 31 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post alfalfa19 Posted February 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2018 He looks like a wonderful person, who's just brimming with good will and love for his fellow humans. 9 1 2 32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simple1 Posted February 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, darksidedog said: Sounds a little odd. Unless a genuine mistake has been made, I suspect there is more to this story than we are being told. I lived in Oz for 7 years and never heard of Permanent residence being cancelled unless you were convicted of something fairly serious. Oz has been cracking down on members of organised crime motorbike gangs, a number of non citizens have been deported. In addition Immi rules state that any jail sentence of twelve months or more will now automatically make you liable for deportation. It could well be that the guy in the OP was subject to the tactic of having his PR cancelled upon departure from Oz; easier for govt than fight appeals whilst the guy is in Immi detention. Edited February 17, 2018 by simple1 15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Farma Posted February 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2018 A bit more info here. Border force said they worked closely with the AFP and WA Police to disrupt the activities of serious organised crime groups operating in WA https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/senior-wa-bikie-kevin-lawrence-stuck-in-thailand-after-visa-cancellation-ng-b88746157z Quote the gang’s State president, Nick Martin, and its vice president Mark Rodgers were stopped at the arrival gates. <snip> A spokesman for the gang yesterday claimed Mr Martin and Mr Rodgers were shown paperwork by Thai immigration officials which appeared to have been sent to them by the Australian Federal Police while the men’s plane had been in the air between Perth and Bangkok. The paperwork contained details of their roles in the gang and also their criminal records. 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Suradit69 Posted February 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2018 40 minutes ago, rooster59 said: He has worked for the same fertilizer company for 35 years. Broadcasting it wide and far. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aldo7 Posted February 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2018 There is no "good guys" in motorcycle gangs. Not easy to believe Thai Immigration gives immediatly a one year visa as we know you have to show a lot of guarantees, financial, résidence and more. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredaroony Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 24 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said: Living on PR for 50yrs ?? Should have gone for Citizenship... Doubt they would have given it to him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post impulse Posted February 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, aldo7 said: There is no "good guys" in motorcycle gangs. Not easy to believe Thai Immigration gives immediatly a one year visa as we know you have to show a lot of guarantees, financial, résidence and more. Could become a problem for the agency he hired when Immigration (and social media) snaps to the fact that he couldn't possibly have seasoned the money for 2-3 months since Feb 8, or have an income from a country that won't let him in. Or, maybe a learning experience for anyone having trouble getting a retirement visa through the DIY path. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted February 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, impulse said: Could become a problem for the agency he hired when Immigration (and social media) snaps to the fact that he couldn't possibly have seasoned the money for 2-3 months since Feb 8, or have an income from a country that won't let him in. Or, maybe a learning experience for anyone having trouble getting a retirement visa through the DIY path. Yep, Aus don't want him but LOS does....Bit strange... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Just Weird Posted February 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2018 30 minutes ago, darksidedog said: Sounds a little odd. Unless a genuine mistake has been made, I suspect there is more to this story than we are being told. I lived in Oz for 7 years and never heard of Permanent residence being cancelled unless you were convicted of something fairly serious. Two counts of assault may fall into that category of "fairly serious". 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, transam said: Yep, Aus don't want him but LOS does....Bit strange... This may be one of those cases where staying under the radar would have been the prudent move. We'll see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 He will need a big wedge to remove all that artwork. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rebo Posted February 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2018 Wondering if he really could show a Thai bank account of at least 800'000 THB for at least the last 3 months in his name ... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post daoyai Posted February 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2018 Waiting to deny return to "undesirable" foreign nationals saves the Govt. time and money involved in a deportation case . 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wow64 Posted February 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2018 Before being quick to judge just remeber this could happen to anyone of you that live in a country for 30 years not become a citizen join a motorcycle gang and look like a knob. I feel sorry for his dog. 5 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, transam said: Yep, Aus don't want him but LOS does....Bit strange... WHAT! LOS doesn't want him ( any more than anyone else ) but if the airline won't carry him, he's stuck in LOS. If Oz has cancelled his PR he'll have to go back to the UK if he can't stay in LOS, provided he can get papers from the embassy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, rebo said: Wondering if he really could show a Thai bank account of at least 800'000 THB for at least the last 3 months in his name ... It's only 2 months first time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaos Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 TerribleSent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post farcanell Posted February 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 hour ago, rooster59 said: and said he wants to remove his tattoos. ?????. Might be easier to cut off his arms 5555 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggers Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 As usual there are gaps in this story & info that doesn't seem correct, i.e. "....But left without a visa in Thailand he paid a lawyer $2,000 AUS to arrange a Thai retirement visa for him after being denied leaving on Wednesday. He said this gave him permission to be in Thailand for a year ...." Umm, how did he meet the funds position for a Retirement Visa ? Or was this another of those,TV advertisers, "we'll get you a Visa, cos we'll use one of our Spec.accounts".... Running out of money, mortgage, private schools, etc!! All a bit airy fairy!! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, rebo said: Wondering if he really could show a Thai bank account of at least 800'000 THB for at least the last 3 months in his name ... We can assume he came in on some type of 30 day visa on entry and therefore the big problem is starting the change of visa which will require him to go thru all those loops that usually require a visit to an embassy/consulate overseas to get the correct type of "permission to stay" to eeven begin the process. It takes more than 2 months to get that done so I see his problem as not being the funds (assuming he has them) as getting out of Thailand and getting a re-entry to start the "retirement" process. (NB; As stated by others earlier the first retirement extension only requires 2 months-later ones are 3 months seasoning) Edited February 17, 2018 by scottiejohn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post djayz Posted February 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2018 55 minutes ago, alfalfa19 said: He looks like a wonderful person, who's just brimming with good will and love for his fellow humans. Never judge a book by its cover. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champers Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Seems like he has already got a Retirement extension, paid for via an agent. Just how is pertinent for those that follow the rules laid down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted February 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2018 Just now, djayz said: Never judge a book by its cover. Perhaps, but if this guy has been under the Aus radar for naughty stuff then Aus has just brought out their ace card..... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post impulse Posted February 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, alfalfa19 said: He looks like a wonderful person, who's just brimming with good will and love for his fellow humans. In 29 years of AA, I've met dozens, if not hundreds of guys whose history was a lot worse, and who looked a lot scarier. A lot of them had turned their lives around and become model citizens and inspirations for others who want out of that life. And I would (and have) trusted many of them with my life, and welcomed them into my home. I don't know this guy. But I'm not going to judge him based on what he may have been or done 20+ years ago. Edited February 17, 2018 by impulse 17 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 15 minutes ago, scottiejohn said: We can assume he came in on some type of 30 day visa on entry and therefore the big problem is starting the change of visa which will require him to go thru all those loops that usually require a visit to an embassy/consulate overseas to get the correct type of "permission to stay" to eeven begin the process. It takes more than 2 months to get that done so I see his problem as not being the funds (assuming he has them) as getting out of Thailand and getting a re-entry to start the "retirement" process. (NB; As stated by others earlier the first retirement extension only requires 2 months-later ones are 3 months seasoning) He qualified for 30 day visa exempt, did not need visa on entry. Without looking it all up, I believe one can complete the conversion process to Non O while remaining in LOS. Tell me if I'm wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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