Brexit has created chaos in Britain – nobody voted for this

[soalbundy]

1 minute ago, oldlakey said:

A girly

and what language was it ?

[Grouse]

1 hour ago, CG1 Blue said:

 

I don't know whether to feel insulted or relieved to not be among the chosen few...

It was a sample. It was not meant to be exclusive ?

 

If you want a beauty contest, I'll arrange it ?

[Grouse]

59 minutes ago, HAKAPALITA said:

Are you a spin doctor for entitled Students.

No, just nosey!

 

Are you Finnish or is it confidential?

[oldlakey]

8 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

and what language was it ?

Peranakan Language Mixture of Malay /  Hokkien chinese dialect and some words of their own

 Baba Nyonya first Y silent

        or

Straits Chinese

Malay female / Chinese male

Baba male

Edited May 8, 2018 by oldlakey

[Grouse]

14 minutes ago, malagateddy said:

Grouse..just remember and spend a day in Govanhill..Glasgow..when you go on your travels.
Please give an honest report re the oh so wonderful multi culturism to people like myself..non Uni but Uni of Life.
See for yourself the utter shambles freedom of movement has done to a formally nice Glasgow area.!!
Yours..a non Uni punter

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I promise

 

Thinking of spending a few days up in the far NW around Loch Torridon. I'll see if the Teuchters are doing OK

 

I'll report back

Edited May 8, 2018 by Grouse

[billd766]

3 hours ago, sandyf said:

It would appear that the stock response to anything that does not go down well is to try and shoot the messenger.

Either the Japanese ambassador made the statement or he didn't, if people wish to convince themselves he didn't then that is up to them.

 

They could also try and ignore the message from Japan to the EU and UK concerning brexit.

http://www.mofa.go.jp/files/000185466.pdf

 

I am not trying to shoot the messenger rather than trying to get a balanced result. The Remainers quote all day from the Independent and the Guardian etc while the Brexit side quote from the Express, Mail etc.

 

The problem is that few people read, or even have the time to read the biased papers from each side, about the same story and that is closer to where the truth lies, somewhere in the middle.

 

TBH I am fed up with the whole damn Brexit even though That is what I voted for.

 

From what I can gather the EU, even though it wants to get rid of the UK, is trying to make it as hard as they can, possibly to scare off any other country who wants to leave.

 

Whether it will work or not I have no idea and I don't think anybody else does either.

 

IMHO ALL of the government MP's should be standing shoulder to shoulder and showing a united front. What many of them fail to remember is that while they are all members of the Conservative party, they were in fact elected by their constituents and should be taking notice of what they say as they can be voted out at the next election.

 

My problem as a voter is that there isn't another party who I would prefer in their place.

[nauseus]

18 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

what is a nonya ? I ask foolishly, knowing I will regret the answer.

Nonya business! 

 

Mind the drop!

 

[soalbundy]

5 minutes ago, oldlakey said:

Peranakan Language Mixture of Malay /  Hokkien chinese dialect and some words of their own

 Baba Nyonya first Y silent

        or

Straits Chinese

Malay female / Chinese male

Baba male

Ahhh, so it is English after all, as English as the national dish, Indian curry or the Chinese take away and the Brexiteers say multi-culti has given us nothing, not only the cuisine has been enriched it would seem.

[nauseus]

15 minutes ago, Grouse said:

It was a sample. It was not meant to be exclusive ?

 

If you want a beauty contest, I'll arrange it ?

 

7 minutes ago, billd766 said:

 

I am not trying to shoot the messenger rather than trying to get a balanced result. The Remainers quote all day from the Independent and the Guardian etc while the Brexit side quote from the Express, Mail etc.

 

The problem is that few people read, or even have the time to read the biased papers from each side, about the same story and that is closer to where the truth lies, somewhere in the middle.

 

TBH I am fed up with the whole damn Brexit even though That is what I voted for.

 

From what I can gather the EU, even though it wants to get rid of the UK, is trying to make it as hard as they can, possibly to scare off any other country who wants to leave.

 

Whether it will work or not I have no idea and I don't think anybody else does either.

 

IMHO ALL of the government MP's should be standing shoulder to shoulder and showing a united front. What many of them fail to remember is that while they are all members of the Conservative party, they were in fact elected by their constituents and should be taking notice of what they say as they can be voted out at the next election.

 

My problem as a voter is that there isn't another party who I would prefer in their place.

They should be all working to satisfy the party manifesto that they were elected with. 

[billd766]

2 hours ago, HAKAPALITA said:

Mr Bill, you are from the generation who saved Norway from  the Germans , expect no respect from the entitled generation your nation gave birth too.  

 

The problem is who gave them that "entitlement". 

 

I worked for 50 years and am "entitled" to many things but I don't get them.

 

1 hour ago, HAKAPALITA said:

Are you a spin doctor for entitled Students.

 

I am actually a war baby and whilst I am not 96 yet there are some mornings that I feel about that age.

[oldlakey]

6 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Nonya business! 

 

Mind the drop!

 

Girly is much better 55555555

[oldlakey]

4 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

Ahhh, so it is English after all, as English as the national dish, Indian curry or the Chinese take away and the Brexiteers say multi-culti has given us nothing, not only the cuisine has been enriched it would seem.

I am all for borrowing anything as long as they dont want it back

[malagateddy]

I promise
 
Thinking of spending a few days up in the far NW around Loch Torridon. I'll see if the Teuchters are doing OK
 
I'll report back

Grouse..just skim read a scottish daily rag..seems that yet another 5 rogue landlords have been black listed re renting property in Govanhill..their surnames identify them as asian/eastern european.Thats 26 rogues so far.
Govanhill is part of the inglorious first minister sturgeons constituancy.
Just saying..cheers

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[fulhamster]

12 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

They should be all working to satisfy the party manifesto that they were elected with. 

They should all now be working together to sort out Brexit asap, because that is what the referendum result decided.

Doesn't matter if they were for or against it, now they have to see it through.

[Grouse]

9 minutes ago, malagateddy said:

Grouse..just skim read a scottish daily rag..seems that yet another 5 rogue landlords have been black listed re renting property in Govanhill..their surnames identify them as asian/eastern european.Thats 26 rogues so far.
Govanhill is part of the inglorious first minister sturgeons constituancy.
Just saying..cheers

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Don't get me going on Muslims; I'll get in trouble for sure!

[aright]

2 minutes ago, billd766 said:

 

 

 

My problem as a voter is that there isn't another party who I would prefer in their place.

Try the Monster Raving Looney Party. At the recent local elections Howling Laud retained his seat on the Hart City Council. Badger and Monkey the Drummer have organised a victory party for him at the Oak Pub West Molesley. Should be a good night "Gripper and the Gonads " will be playing our favorite tunes. Rumour has it Vince Ripper and the Rodent Show will also make an appearance.

They have a great manifesto.

 

The Loony Party proposes that all Schools would have a Jumble sale or fete or other fundraising event at least twice per month to help raise funds for those little extras. . . such as Desks, Books, paper, pens , etc

 

They will pass a law ordering British Airways Flight Attendants to cheer up.

 

Parliament will be relocated to Wormwood Scrubs, reducing the commuting costs for most Peers and MPs.

They will reduce the national debt by selling the castles back to the French. (Buyer dismantles)

Chocolate and Sex will be available to all on the NHS.

If you look hard enough there is a political Party out there for you.

[Grouse]

18 minutes ago, malagateddy said:

Grouse..just skim read a scottish daily rag..seems that yet another 5 rogue landlords have been black listed re renting property in Govanhill..their surnames identify them as asian/eastern european.Thats 26 rogues so far.
Govanhill is part of the inglorious first minister sturgeons constituancy.
Just saying..cheers

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I see that Govenhill has highest cultural diversity in Scotland! How nice!

 

Also Govenhill is a big branch of Dixons?

[malagateddy]

Dixons??

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[Grouse]

1 minute ago, malagateddy said:

Dixons??

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Dixons blast furnaces? All the streets are named after Dixon or his kids

 

This must be the same place; you were correct about the MP.

[malagateddy]

There's Dixon Road..Dixon Avenue..sturgeon is an msp..not mp

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[malagateddy]

Also an old community hall..Dixon Halls..if its still standing

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[nontabury]

9 hours ago, vogie said:

That's a bit rich coming from you grouse, when you call people that don't agree with you 'numpties and morons' you kinda lose the high moral ground, IMO.

 

9 hours ago, vogie said:

That's a bit rich coming from you grouse, when you call people that don't agree with you 'numpties and morons' you kinda lose the high moral ground, IMO.

Are you aware that many T.V members simply ignore grouse, mainly Due to his arrogance.

[Johnniey]

1 hour ago, Grouse said:

Teuchters

This is more an east coast word. Wedgies have their own words.

[billd766]

2 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

They should be all working to satisfy the party manifesto that they were elected with. 

 

They should be voting the way that their constituency voted and NOT the party manifesto. The party did NOT elect them, the people who voted did.

[nauseus]

3 hours ago, fulhamster said:

They should all now be working together to sort out Brexit asap, because that is what the referendum result decided.

Doesn't matter if they were for or against it, now they have to see it through.

Yes. I think you missed my point.

[nauseus]

34 minutes ago, billd766 said:

 

They should be voting the way that their constituency voted and NOT the party manifesto. The party did NOT elect them, the people who voted did.

Both Labour and Con manifestos committed to Brexit!!!

[oldwelshman]

20 hours ago, aright said:

Am I missing something?

We currently import perishables from Africa, Egypt, USA and many other non EU countries without any reported problems. Are you saying when we leave the EU the British government are going to change procedures to make it more difficult to bring these goods into the country?

 

The British Government won't have any say in it, we are leaving the customs union end of, so it will inevitably cause issues with items crossing by sea. Last time I looked Africa and USA did not come via the channel tunnel or ferries :-) Fact is there is no gain for anyone, just have to make do and do best we can with what we have and what is agreed.

I don't know why people think we can just leave the EU and think we can still have all the benefits at no cost. Something has to give.

[oldwelshman]

9 hours ago, aright said:

It's interesting isn't it that when Leavers are asked the reason for leaving you get answers like to save money on the cost of food, clothing, footwear etc.. The benefit of not having to pay EU fees, as the second highest contributor in the EU and getting no return. Establishing our own laws, having a directly responsible Parliament, controlling our borders and regulatory affairs. getting rid of an undemocratic, unaccountable, wasteful, overpaid and vindictive Commission, doing global trade deals etc etc

Yet when you ask Remainers the reason for staying you get no coherent answer. The weakness of their argument all along has been they can't tell us the advantages of staying which led directly to the majority of people voting leave.

Where to start?

Fees? you think we will not still have to pay anything as a result of negotiating trade deals?

Saving on cost of food clothing etc? How is this going to work when the pound has dropped 15% so shortly will see increase in real terms for buying items.

Establishing our own laws? We already did and no law was ever imposed on us without a unanimous vote from EU from all members including our own government. There is not 1 law that was not passed by our government.

Controlling borders? We already had control but I guess you mean stopping the free movement of EU members. Do you think this will stop the real immigration issue which is illegal immigrants?

The majority of the people did not vote to leave I may add, just more voted to leave than remain, not quite the same thing.

The only thing I agree with is over paid and wasteful EU commission. Should have stayed in and used referendum vote to force change and also to amend the free movement of EU members, not just evoke article 50 with no plan.

Benefits of remaining?

Common standards allowing free movement of materials between countries, selling what little we manufacture to those standards. Free study in EU countries, free to move to other EU countries to work, ease of movement of supply chain items between EU countries, EHIC cards for health insurance, hassle free movement between GB and EU countries for holidays (unless Luton airport lol). Improved workers rights and benefits ( most of which the tories been trying to remove for years).

Wales has benefited by massive inward investment and grants from EU for years, strangely Wales majority voted to leave, and many people I know actually voted more on local issues than anything to do with the EU and now say "oh , we can't get those grants anymore? WHy not?"

Yes there are many people on both sides that have strong reasons and beiefs for voting the way they did, unfortunately there were also many people who voted with no idea of issues either way.

The whole campaign was a shambles both sides.

Glad I left lol

[StreetCowboy]

4 hours ago, malagateddy said:

Grouse..just skim read a scottish daily rag..seems that yet another 5 rogue landlords have been black listed re renting property in Govanhill..their surnames identify them as asian/eastern european.Thats 26 rogues so far.
Govanhill is part of the inglorious first minister sturgeons constituancy.
Just saying..cheers

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It’s a bit of a struggle staying on the right side of the council, but we’ll worth doing so.  For all their ridiculous bureaucracy and red tape, they mean we’ll, and are willing to put their hands in their pockets to make housing in Glasgow habitable.

[StreetCowboy]

7 minutes ago, oldwelshman said:

Where to start?

Fees? you think we will not still have to pay anything as a result of negotiating trade deals?

Saving on cost of food clothing etc? How is this going to work when the pound has dropped 15% so shortly will see increase in real terms for buying items.

Establishing our own laws? We already did and no law was ever imposed on us without a unanimous vote from EU from all members including our own government. There is not 1 law that was not passed by our government.

Controlling borders? We already had control but I guess you mean stopping the free movement of EU members. Do you think this will stop the real immigration issue which is illegal immigrants?

The majority of the people did not vote to leave I may add, just more voted to leave than remain, not quite the same thing.

The only thing I agree with is over paid and wasteful EU commission. Should have stayed in and used referendum vote to force change and also to amend the free movement of EU members, not just evoke article 50 with no plan.

Benefits of remaining?

Common standards allowing free movement of materials between countries, selling what little we manufacture to those standards. Free study in EU countries, free to move to other EU countries to work, ease of movement of supply chain items between EU countries, EHIC cards for health insurance, hassle free movement between GB and EU countries for holidays (unless Luton airport lol). Improved workers rights and benefits ( most of which the tories been trying to remove for years).

Wales has benefited by massive inward investment and grants from EU for years, strangely Wales majority voted to leave, and many people I know actually voted more on local issues than anything to do with the EU and now say "oh , we can't get those grants anymore? WHy not?"

Yes there are many people on both sides that have strong reasons and beiefs for voting the way they did, unfortunately there were also many people who voted with no idea of issues either way.

The whole campaign was a shambles both sides.

Glad I left lol

But apart from that, what have the Romans ever done for us?