Brexit has created chaos in Britain – nobody voted for this

[Jip99]

33 minutes ago, George FmplesdaCosteedback said:

Many thanks for that, I haven't seen it for 30+ years.

Superb speech.

Corbyn has been a Eurosceptic for 35 years, but he wants power and will do anything to get it.

+1

[tebee]

“Our preparedness for no deal is virtually non-existent,”

 

https://www.ft.com/content/23663bc4-619e-11e8-90c2-9563a0613e56

[Scott]

This topic is closed for the time being.   We'll evaluate whether it should be re-opened or remain closed.

[Scott]

Re-opened.

[oldlakey]

4 minutes ago, Scott said:

Re-opened.

Super

[Johnniey]

1 minute ago, oldlakey said:

Super

I'll have to figure out how to stop getting notifications as it has got really boring and off topic for me. but fair enough for those wanting to discuss it. Is there not a UK sub forum?

 

[oldlakey]

5 minutes ago, Johnniey said:

I'll have to figure out how to stop getting notifications as it has got really boring and off topic for me. but fair enough for those wanting to discuss it. Is there not a UK sub forum?

 

Just ignore them like what I do normally, 55555 although I have had the odd nibble

Apart from that lets not be killjoys 

Edited May 28, 2018 by oldlakey

[Scott]

41 minutes ago, Johnniey said:

I'll have to figure out how to stop getting notifications as it has got really boring and off topic for me. but fair enough for those wanting to discuss it. Is there not a UK sub forum?

 

I believe that at the top of the page is a icon 'following' and if you click on it you can un-follow the topic.

 

The reason the topic was closed because of the large number of notifications that are generated by every post which was causing a problem during the upgrade.     

[Johnniey]

1 minute ago, Scott said:

I believe that at the top of the page is a icon 'following' and if you click on it you can unfollow the topic.   

Got it, thanks!

 

[tebee]

"No one in the country now believes that Brexit is as easy, uncomplicated, rapid or beneficial as they were told in the Summer of 2016. Arrogance and bluster are colliding with the cold realities of economics in an interdependent world."

 

https://inews.co.uk/opinion/columnists/nick-clegg-the-brexiteers-are-right-to-panic/

 

[beautifulthailand99]

2 hours ago, tebee said:

"No one in the country now believes that Brexit is as easy, uncomplicated, rapid or beneficial as they were told in the Summer of 2016. Arrogance and bluster are colliding with the cold realities of economics in an interdependent world."

 

https://inews.co.uk/opinion/columnists/nick-clegg-the-brexiteers-are-right-to-panic/

 

WE ARE LEAVING REMOANERS....... WE THE ANGRY PEOPLE OF INTERNET FORUMS HAVE SPOKEN. that's all ......

 

+ some union jack thingy with a Rees-Mogg quote and a bulldog biting into an EU flag sort of thing...followed by the sound of white flapping coats.... 

 

 

[soalbundy]

7 hours ago, tebee said:

"No one in the country now believes that Brexit is as easy, uncomplicated, rapid or beneficial as they were told in the Summer of 2016. Arrogance and bluster are colliding with the cold realities of economics in an interdependent world."

 

https://inews.co.uk/opinion/columnists/nick-clegg-the-brexiteers-are-right-to-panic/

 

We live in interesting, dangerous times especially now with the Italian debacle. It makes me think of a violent argument between husband and wife, either they can both make compromises and patch things up or the marriage falls apart. A collapse of the Euro may be a joyful prospect for brexiteers but the reverberations of this earthquake would be felt worldwide with some awful consequences for just about everybody before things settle down. I can imagine however a scenario where the weak return to their currencies and leave the EU and a strong core remains, whatever, this is going to be complicated.

[The Renegade]

5 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

WE ARE LEAVING REMOANERS....... WE THE ANGRY PEOPLE OF INTERNET FORUMS HAVE SPOKEN. that's all ......

Such wonderful satire and a deep misunderstanding of realty.

 

Internet forums have not spoken, a Referendum did.

 

Internet forums are inhabited by angry remainers.

 

Why do so many people, who claim to be from Mainland Europe, all remainers, infest the British MSM on a daily basis ? Does Brussels HQ really have the equivalent  of a Russian troll factory ?

[The Renegade]

1 hour ago, soalbundy said:

I can imagine however a scenario where the weak return to their currencies and leave the EU and a strong core remains, whatever, this is going to be complicated.

You do not imagine a scenario, we used to have that in the past, it was called the Common Market in those days.

 

The only complication to returning to the Common Market will be caused by the EU Institutions, who will find themselves subject to mass unemployment and they will not give up their seat on the Brussels gravy train without a fight.

[Eloquent pilgrim]

6 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

+ some union jack thingy with a Rees-Mogg quote and a bulldog biting into an EU flag sort of thing...followed by the sound of white flapping coats.... 

Oh dear, I knew that you were running a bit low on logical and imaginative arguments, I was however, unaware that you were now totally bereft of them ….. many thanks for the update, chin up old bean (*∆°)

[soalbundy]

10 minutes ago, The Renegade said:

You do not imagine a scenario, we used to have that in the past, it was called the Common Market in those days.

 

The only complication to returning to the Common Market will be caused by the EU Institutions, who will find themselves subject to mass unemployment and they will not give up their seat on the Brussels gravy train without a fight.

but I thought the electorate were in control ?

[The Renegade]

On Friday I posted this in response to some unsubstantiated poll.

 

On 5/25/2018 at 2:22 PM, The Renegade said:

Instead of publishing polls. I thing the EU should put their money where their mouth is.

 

Instruct all EU Governments that in their next National election an addendum is to be added.

 

Do you agree that the EU should continue on its current path to a Supra-National single state

 

Or

 

Should the EU revert back to a simple Trading Agreement, overseen by a Single Trading Commission.

 

Sort it one way or the other.

Which was immediately attacked, using all sorts of strawman arguments by remainers.

 

Did this guy read my comment ?

 

Quote

“The election is going to resemble a referendum, de facto, on the European Union and the euro,” said Francesco Galietti, head of political risk consultancy Policy Sonar in Rome. “It’s an existential threat for the entire euro zone.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-italy-politics-euro-election-analysis/italys-fresh-election-risks-being-referendum-on-euro-idUSKCN1IT1IF

 

Nah, you are wrong Francesco, according to the remainers on here, there is no threat and they publish childish cartoons showing increasing support for the EU project.

[Eloquent pilgrim]

On 5/27/2018 at 12:41 PM, Grouse said:

No, you still miss the point. The entire drive train will be brought in from Germany. They will rely upon UK wheelbarrow expertise while retaining the Eur1 rating for content. It gives me no joy I assure you. Alec Issigonis must be rotating. At 6000 rpm. 

No, you're the one that has missed the point. It was my comment, and I was lauding BMW’s commitment to continue production of the Mini at their Oxford plant, securing thousands of jobs for UK workers. You chose to try and find something negative in the safe future of British jobs, just to bolster your pro-EU narrative; I find that rather sad

 

It must be very demanding, getting up everyday and looking for the bad in anything good, the negative in anything positive, looking for pessimism where there is optimism and hope. I see a light at the end of a tunnel, while you see nothing but the beam of the burglar’s torch ……. I am so glad to be in the positive, uplifting space that I am in my life, with my bright sunny outlook for the future.

[The Renegade]

12 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

but I thought the electorate were in control ?

How many electorates were allowed a vote for the Common Market to mutate into today's EU ?

 

Re - votes in Ireland and Holland prove that electorates are not in control.

 

Weekend events in Italy prove that the electorate are not in control.

 

Your thought process is somewhat diminished.

[Grouse]

26 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

No, you're the one that has missed the point. It was my comment, and I was lauding BMW’s commitment to continue production of the Mini at their Oxford plant, securing thousands of jobs for UK workers. You chose to try and find something negative in the safe future of British jobs, just to bolster your pro-EU narrative; I find that rather sad

 

It must be very demanding, getting up everyday and looking for the bad in anything good, the negative in anything positive, looking for pessimism where there is optimism and hope. I see a light at the end of a tunnel, while you see nothing but the beam of the burglar’s torch ……. I am so glad to be in the positive, uplifting space that I am in my life, with my bright sunny outlook for the future.

Good for you!

 

Your battery is going flat I think ?

[tebee]

1 hour ago, The Renegade said:

Such wonderful satire and a deep misunderstanding of realty.

 

Internet forums have not spoken, a Referendum did.

 

Internet forums are inhabited by angry remainers.

 

Why do so many people, who claim to be from Mainland Europe, all remainers, infest the British MSM on a daily basis ? Does Brussels HQ really have the equivalent  of a Russian troll factory ?

If you could find me some sponsorship to post on here I would be very grateful. Not have to worry so much about this tedious work thing and i'd be able to give my cryptokitties the time they deserve.....

[The Renegade]

10 minutes ago, tebee said:

If you could find me some sponsorship to post on here I would be very grateful. Not have to worry so much about this tedious work thing and i'd be able to give my cryptokitties the time they deserve.....

You could try these

 

00 800 67 89 10 11 (from inside the EU)
+32 2 299 96 96 (from outside the EU)

 

https://ec.europa.eu/info/about-european-commission/contact_en

 

Think they need as much help as they can muster.

[Orac]

On Friday I posted this in response to some unsubstantiated poll.
 
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-italy-politics-euro-election-analysis/italys-fresh-election-risks-being-referendum-on-euro-idUSKCN1IT1IF
 
Nah, you are wrong Francesco, according to the remainers on here, there is no threat and they publish childish cartoons showing increasing support for the EU project.

No, you previous post is still a ridiculous, poorly thought through idea.

The article you have posted talks about another election in Italy and makes no mention of the EU adding any questions to it, indeed it does not mention anything about a specific question about membership of the EU but appears to be an opportunity for voters to elect a eurosceptic party as happens in a normal general election.


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[nontabury]

On 5/27/2018 at 11:31 AM, tebee said:

Some of us see Freedom of movement as a good thing old bean.......

It’s possible for those who live in France and for people who work in certain occupations in the U.K.  Unfortunately for the majority of Brits, it’s a very bad deal. But why should you think of others, that’s not what selfish people do.

 

 

[adammike]

5 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

No, you're the one that has missed the point. It was my comment, and I was lauding BMW’s commitment to continue production of the Mini at their Oxford plant, securing thousands of jobs for UK workers. You chose to try and find something negative in the safe future of British jobs, just to bolster your pro-EU narrative; I find that rather sad

 

It must be very demanding, getting up everyday and looking for the bad in anything good, the negative in anything positive, looking for pessimism where there is optimism and hope. I see a light at the end of a tunnel, while you see nothing but the beam of the burglar’s torch ……. I am so glad to be in the positive, uplifting space that I am in my life, with my bright sunny outlook for the future.

You read the daily mail or telegraph lately? Read anything positive about anything that is not brexit?

[adammike]

8 minutes ago, nontabury said:

It’s possible for those who live in France and for people who work in certain occupations in the U.K.  Unfortunately for the majority of Brits, it’s a very bad deal. But why should you think of others, that’s not what selfish people do.

 

 

Wait till we all stand in line with the non EU passports to go on the razzle in Amsterdam, Ibiza etc,blue won't cut it.

[aright]

25 minutes ago, adammike said:

You read the daily mail or telegraph lately? Read anything positive about anything that is not brexit?

Does this help?

Britain’s economy is surging ahead, rebounding rapidly from a slow start to the year according to an index of economic indicators by experts at Goldman Sachs.

GDP growth could hit 0.5pc in the second quarter, the investment bank believes, shrugging off a 0.1pc slump in the first quarter.

The investment bank has created the index using public and private data, which suggest the UK is on track for growth of 0.4pc. This ­
 indicates the slowdown was caused by “erratic and idiosyncratic” factors including the snow, said Andrew Benito, UK economist at Goldman Sachs. He believes there could be an extra recovery on top of that as corporate investment growth and exports pick up.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/05/27/uk-economy-has-bounced-back-already-according-goldman-sachs/

 

and this

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/dog-adopts-nine-baby-ducklings-and-its-beyond-adorable_uk_5b03d469e4b0463cdba584de?utm_hp_ref=uk-good-news

[Eloquent pilgrim]

34 minutes ago, adammike said:

Read anything positive about anything that is not brexit?

You seem to be saying that the only positive things to read are about Brexit  …. are you attempting to shoot yourself with your own gun ?

[Eloquent pilgrim]

41 minutes ago, adammike said:

Wait till we all stand in line with the non EU passports to go on the razzle in Amsterdam, Ibiza etc,blue won't cut it.

Just out of interest, are you expecting any serious replies to this comment ?  If so, you can count me out 

[tebee]

Brexit has a cost in lost opportunities 

 

https://www.ft.com/content/9ec68890-6280-11e8-90c2-9563a0613e56?emailId=5b0c9b93fc0e2100049550b0&segmentId=2f40f9e8-c8d5-af4c-ecdd-78ad0b93926b