Brexit has created chaos in Britain – nobody voted for this

[aright]

7 minutes ago, StreetCowboy said:

So you say.  But somehow it's only the liberals that complain when we say immigrants can't bring in their families, that alleged illegal immigrants can't be detained without trial.  Bloody liberals; they wouldn't put up with that nonsense in China.

There are many things they wouldn't put up with in China, they have an appalling record on human rights. What I do know is there have been some horrifying situations in the world because of a disregard and contempt for human rights. Myanmar comes immediately to mind. 

[StreetCowboy]

2 minutes ago, aright said:

There are many things they wouldn't put up with in China, they have an appalling record on human rights. What I do know is there have been some horrifying situations in the world because of a disregard and contempt for human rights. Myanmar comes immediately to mind. 

You would think that their ASEAN neighbours would be able to do more to address this, and maybe they would, if they did not enjoy the cheap immigrant labour that ethnic cleansing generates

[Airbagwill]

It will he interesting to see how attractive Thai women find British men in the future. Up until Brexit they could offer citizenship of all Europe, together with all the opportunities that offered.

Now all they can offer is a passport to a nasty little country shivering in the North Atlantic.

[CG1 Blue]

14 minutes ago, Airbagwill said:

It will he interesting to see how attractive Thai women find British men in the future. Up until Brexit they could offer citizenship of all Europe, together with all the opportunities that offered.

Now all they can offer is a passport to a nasty little country shivering in the North Atlantic.

Yes, you often hear the Thai ladies discussing global political developments 

[Airbagwill]

10 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

Yes, you often hear the Thai ladies discussing global political developments 

Bit like Brexiteers then?

[Khun Han]

1 hour ago, Airbagwill said:

It will he interesting to see how attractive Thai women find British men in the future. Up until Brexit they could offer citizenship of all Europe, together with all the opportunities that offered.

Now all they can offer is a passport to a nasty little country shivering in the North Atlantic.

 

"It will he interesting to see how attractive Thai women find British men in the future. Up until Brexit they could offer citizenship of all Europe, together with all the opportunities that offered."

 

Wrong. They always needed British citizenship and a British passport to travel around Europe (unless they applied for a Schengen visa). All they will need for post-brexit travel is the same thing.

 

"Now all they can offer is a passport to a nasty little country shivering in the North Atlantic."

 

And off we go with the inane put-downs which toxify the debate. 

Edited March 13, 2018 by Khun Han

[Kieran00001]

11 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

Your comments are an insult to our fishermen, and to an industry that has been decimated by the CFP. We are an island nation surrounded by sea, yet we currently have to allow other countries to fish in British waters. 

 

Fishing should be a major UK industry because we are an island. Instead our waters are overrun by foreign boats, and our fishermen end up dumping tonnes of dead fish back into the sea because of quotas.

 

This madness will hopefully come to an end once we've left the EU.

 

You have no idea what you are talking about, the only reason we have others fish our waters is because we choose to fish others waters and because our fishermen have sold some of their quotas to foreign operators, neither of those changing would be good for us, we want to be able to continue to fish for the species that our customers buy and the quotas we sold are lawfully owned by the people who bought them and they have to employ British fishermen and land at British ports anyway.  As for fishing not being a major industry in your opinion, our quota is the second largest catch in the EU.  And as for throwing back catch, unless we also left the UN then we will still be a party to the same laws governing conservence of stocks, and the saving of species from extinction is not madness!

 

[Kieran00001]

12 hours ago, Grouse said:

Yes but it metrically defined

 

As in 1 inch is EXACTLY 2.5400000000cm 

 

It has been since the British standards were destroyed in the Houses of Parliament fire of 1836, nothing to do with the EU and everything to do with not wanting to go back to the ridiculous system of taking an average length of three barley corns to set the standard inch by.

[Airbagwill]

10 hours ago, StreetCowboy said:

The trouble comes when liberals start asserting that Johnny Foreigners deserve human rights the same as you and me, as if humans were all the same

Brexiteers ... QED

[Airbagwill]

10 minutes ago, Kieran00001 said:

 

It has been since the British standards were destroyed in the Houses of Parliament fire of 1836, nothing to do with the EU and everything to do with not wanting to go back to the ridiculous system of taking an average length of three barley corns to set the standard inch by.

The inch comes from the Romans...... Europeans to most.

[Airbagwill]

22 minutes ago, Kieran00001 said:

 

It has been since the British standards were destroyed in the Houses of Parliament fire of 1836, nothing to do with the EU and everything to do with not wanting to go back to the ridiculous system of taking an average length of three barley corns to set the standard inch by.

The inch comes from the Romans...... Europeans to most.

So...apart from the inch, what has Europe ever done for us........it's where the Jutes, Angles and Saxons came from.....apart from that.....

Edited March 14, 2018 by Airbagwill

[transam]

1 hour ago, Kieran00001 said:

 

It has been since the British standards were destroyed in the Houses of Parliament fire of 1836, nothing to do with the EU and everything to do with not wanting to go back to the ridiculous system of taking an average length of three barley corns to set the standard inch by.

And the centimeter "size" came from what, a frankfurter width.....?

[Airbagwill]

7 hours ago, Khun Han said:

 

"It will he interesting to see how attractive Thai women find British men in the future. Up until Brexit they could offer citizenship of all Europe, together with all the opportunities that offered."

 

Wrong. They always needed British citizenship and a British passport to travel around Europe (unless they applied for a Schengen visa). All they will need for post-brexit travel is the same thing.

 

"Now all they can offer is a passport to a nasty little country shivering in the North Atlantic."

 

And off we go with the inane put-downs which toxify the debate. 

There's only one thing that toxifies the debate - Brexit.

[soalbundy]

12 minutes ago, transam said:

And the centimeter "size" came from what, a frankfurter width.....?

one ten millionth of the earth's meridian along one fourth of the earth's circumference = 1 meter, set out in 1791. 

Edited March 14, 2018 by soalbundy

[transam]

6 hours ago, soalbundy said:

one ten millionth of the earth's meridian along one fourth of the earth's circumference. 

And the metric use of the power of ten was due to number of fingers and thumbs..

[SheungWan]

11 hours ago, StreetCowboy said:

How much beer, shrimps do we actually export?  The only 'British' beers I see overseas are Guinness, Kilkenny which are brewed locally under management from the Isle of Man or one of these other offshore tax havens, and Deuchars IPA in Fatt's Place on Hart Avenue, Tsim Sha Tsui. 

You need to get out a little bit more! Tetley on tap at the Old China Hand, Wanchai http://oldchinahand.com.hk/wp/

 

[soalbundy]

1 minute ago, transam said:

And the metric use of the power of ten was due to number of fingers and thumbs..

or toes on the feet, you can use feet to walk away from poor decisions.

[SheungWan]

6 hours ago, soalbundy said:

one ten millionth of the earth's meridian along one fourth of the earth's circumference = 1 meter, set out in 1791. 

 

6 hours ago, transam said:

And the metric use of the power of ten was due to number of fingers and thumbs..

The metric system only grew to be universally adopted after the French Revolution. It is, in effect a French product as far as standardisation is concerned. Before that a whole variety of measurement systems were in use. Even with the growth of the metric system, British measurements including Imperial measurements held out for a long, long time and several are still in use today. Old Brexiteers to a man are nostalgic for the old ways, including forms of measurement. Whether this is because they have 12 fingers we will leave for another day.

[soalbundy]

11 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

 

The metric system only grew to be universally adopted after the French Revolution. It is, in effect a French product as far as standardisation is concerned. Before that a whole variety of measurement systems were in use. Even with the growth of the metric system, British measurements including Imperial measurements held out for a long, long time and several are still in use today. Old Brexiteers to a man are nostalgic for the old ways, including forms of measurement. Whether this is because they have 12 fingers we will leave for another day.

The 12 apostles perhaps, 12 was good enough for Jesus.

[transam]

36 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

 

The metric system only grew to be universally adopted after the French Revolution. It is, in effect a French product as far as standardisation is concerned. Before that a whole variety of measurement systems were in use. Even with the growth of the metric system, British measurements including Imperial measurements held out for a long, long time and several are still in use today. Old Brexiteers to a man are nostalgic for the old ways, including forms of measurement. Whether this is because they have 12 fingers we will leave for another day.

A zillion years back I went to a technical school (engineering), where l eventually knew all the imperial threads, plus the USA threads which were similar..

[Kieran00001]

2 hours ago, transam said:

And the centimeter "size" came from what, a frankfurter width.....?

 

 No, they used science for theirs, it's 1/299,792,458 of the distance that light travels in a second divided by 100.

[transam]

4 hours ago, Kieran00001 said:

 

 No, they used science for theirs, it's 1/299,792,458 of the distance that light travels in a second divided by 100.

Well learned something today.....

[nauseus]

4 hours ago, Kieran00001 said:

 

You have no idea what you are talking about, the only reason we have others fish our waters is because we choose to fish others waters and because our fishermen have sold some of their quotas to foreign operators, neither of those changing would be good for us, we want to be able to continue to fish for the species that our customers buy and the quotas we sold are lawfully owned by the people who bought them and they have to employ British fishermen and land at British ports anyway.  As for fishing not being a major industry in your opinion, our quota is the second largest catch in the EU.  And as for throwing back catch, unless we also left the UN then we will still be a party to the same laws governing conservence of stocks, and the saving of species from extinction is not madness!

 

Cobblers. The flawed CFP was forced on the UK as part of membership of the EEC. This was not the choice of British fishermen. 

[StreetCowboy]

2 hours ago, SheungWan said:

You need to get out a little bit more! Tetley on tap at the Old China Hand, Wanchai http://oldchinahand.com.hk/wp/

 

I’ll be happy to get as far as Fatt’s Place in TST.  Wicked things happen in Wanchai

[billd766]

2 hours ago, soalbundy said:

one ten millionth of the earth's meridian along one fourth of the earth's circumference = 1 meter, set out in 1791. 

 

Did they use an imperial ruler to measure it with in the first place?

[nauseus]

5 minutes ago, billd766 said:

 

Did they use an imperial ruler to measure it with in the first place?

I think it was Alexander The Great! 

[Grouse]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metre

 

Thats the end of that!

[transam]

5 minutes ago, Grouse said:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metre

 

Thats the end of that!

Blimey, they could measure all that stuff waaaay back then when l thought they thought the world was flat....

[Kieran00001]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

Cobblers. The flawed CFP was forced on the UK as part of membership of the EEC. This was not the choice of British fishermen. 

 

Nothing was forced on anyone, the CFP was a part of the deal.  And nothing I said was untrue, we have chosen to swap a lot of our quota, that is because we like to eat fish that for most of the year are not found in our waters.  Also we have sold a lot of our quotas, and so we see the likes of the Dutch owned super trawler, but the quota remains British and so by EU law it has to dock at a British harbour, sell its catch in a British market and employ British fishermen, but I doubt they wrote that in your tabloid, did they?

 

And I do not know which British fishermen you think you speak anyway, for but I know plenty of British fishermen who voted remain, and that is because they know that EU funding is propping up their boat building industry, they know that the EU built their fish market and they know that the EU protects their now archaic practice despite the UK seeking to ban it, those fishermen only stand to lose from Brexit as the UK will outlaw what they do.  You may have read the tabloids and assumed that all the fishermen were in sort of alliance and were for Brexit, but the fact is they are in various circumstances and there are plenty who are pro EU.

[soalbundy]

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

 

Did they use an imperial ruler to measure it with in the first place?

probably the megalithic yard.