May 13, 20188 yr There is a service check at 5K, but it does not include changing the oil. Chevrolet wanted me to wait until 15K to do the first oil change. Mine only has 12K, but I made them change it already because I think that is way too long to wait for the first oil change. No oil consumption problems have been noticed. I only checked it once before the first change. Seemed fine.I always make them change the oil and filter anytime I get service. When the service interval wad 5k, they wanted to change the filter every other oil change...Oil & filters not really something I need to save money on...
May 13, 20188 yr That is a Weber Genesis gas grille in the back. I had a nice grill for a while, the weather wore me down. Too hot to cook outside...
May 13, 20188 yr Author 13 hours ago, Issanman said: There is a service check at 5K, but it does not include changing the oil. Chevrolet wanted me to wait until 15K to do the first oil change. Mine only has 12K, but I made them change it already because I think that is way too long to wait for the first oil change. No oil consumption problems have been noticed. I only checked it once before the first change. Seemed fine. ok thanks as quite a few oil consumption issues on the 2.8 version in Australia, they dont sell the 2.5 there so little to no info on that one.
May 13, 20188 yr Author 17 hours ago, mogandave said: Is that an oil tank in the back? I don’t think I’ve had to add oil between changes in any vehicle since the ‘80s... yeah but they use much looser piston rings now to aid fuel consumption and the result is more oil can be used in this process.
May 13, 20188 yr Machine tolerances and oil quality are so much better now, that oil consumption should be negligent. Chevy specs 15,000km between changes, and the idea that one would be expected to top up the oil between changes is ridiculous.
May 13, 20188 yr 2 hours ago, kannot said: yeah but they use much looser piston rings now to aid fuel consumption and the result is more oil can be used in this process. No, not the rings...Depends on the piston material and bore piston clearances they could be bigger or smaller depending on expansion of the piston material used.....
May 13, 20188 yr Author 15 hours ago, mogandave said: Machine tolerances and oil quality are so much better now, that oil consumption should be negligent. Chevy specs 15,000km between changes, and the idea that one would be expected to top up the oil between changes is ridiculous. id do a bit more research if I was you and Chevrolet is not the only one it applies to. https://gm.oemdtc.com/8570/a172101891-service-update-gmi700-31ux-engine-oil-high-consumption-rate-2014-2016-chevrolet-colorado-trailblazer Edited May 13, 20188 yr by kannot
May 13, 20188 yr Author 15 hours ago, transam said: No, not the rings...Depends on the piston material and bore piston clearances they could be bigger or smaller depending on expansion of the piston material used..... States looser piston rings
May 13, 20188 yr Author 15 hours ago, mogandave said: Machine tolerances and oil quality are so much better now, that oil consumption should be negligent. Chevy specs 15,000km between changes, and the idea that one would be expected to top up the oil between changes is ridiculous. GM says normal consumption "can be in the range of one quart within 2,000 miles on a properly driven and maintained vehicle." A quart is about 1 litre every 3200km, which would mean in effect you "could" totally replace the oil between services having none of the original oil left. I dont agree with this amount of oil used being "normal" which is why Im asking owners in Thailand ( as ive only heard the 2.8 in Australia being affected and some 3.6 lit ones in the U.S) source https://www.cars.com/articles/how-much-oil-consumption-is-normal-1420682864535/ Edited May 13, 20188 yr by kannot
May 14, 20188 yr GM says normal consumption "can be in the range of one quart within 2,000 miles on a properly driven and maintained vehicle." A quart is about 1 litre every 3200km, which would mean in effect you "could" totally replace the oil between services having none of the original oil left. I dont agree with this amount of oil used being "normal" which is why Im asking owners in Thailand ( as ive only heard the 2.8 in Australia being affected and some 3.6 lit ones in the U.S)source https://www.cars.com/articles/how-much-oil-consumption-is-normal-1420682864535/Does the article not quote Honda rather than GM?
May 14, 20188 yr 2 hours ago, kannot said: States looser piston rings A piston ring is just that, it has an instillation gap where the ends meet. The ring manufacturer states the gap for there ring. My fun ride ring gap was (I think) 18 thou in the bore, I spent a lot of time sorting that. Piston to bore clearance is different, a forged piston has a bigger clearance than cast because different heat expansion. If they are saying rings have a bigger joint gap I can accept that..
May 14, 20188 yr My 2006 3L Colorado doesn't seem to use any oil or need topping up in between changes. I change the oil and filter every 10,000 km.
May 14, 20188 yr This oil consumption thing sounds like BS to me. I few units or a bad production run perhaps, but in general? Ridiculous. To be clear, taking what a customer claims was said to them by a worker at a dealership and presenting it as GM’s official position is incompetent at best....
May 14, 20188 yr 9 hours ago, akirasan said: My 2006 3L Colorado doesn't seem to use any oil or need topping up in between changes. I change the oil and filter every 10,000 km. You 2006 Colorado is an Isuzu in disguise. The oil consumption issue is with the later model with the Duramax engine.
May 20, 20188 yr Author On 5/14/2018 at 7:57 AM, akirasan said: My 2006 3L Colorado doesn't seem to use any oil or need topping up in between changes. I change the oil and filter every 10,000 km. Too old to be affected, Im trying to find out if the latest model 2.5 diesel has an issue. Many reports of the 2.8 and even this from gm https://gm.oemdtc.com/8570/a172101891-service-update-gmi700-31ux-engine-oil-high-consumption-rate-2014-2016-chevrolet-colorado-trailblazer
May 20, 20188 yr Author On 5/14/2018 at 6:58 AM, mogandave said: Well there’s a good reason not to buy a chevy well thats what Im trying to find out
May 20, 20188 yr Author On 5/14/2018 at 7:00 AM, mogandave said: Does the article not quote Honda rather than GM? it quotes GM, BMW and Honda.
May 20, 20188 yr On 4/30/2018 at 9:29 AM, mogandave said: I think the bow-tie is good looking, but I think the Toyota, Isuzu, Ford & Mazda are good looking as well. I don’t like the look of the mitsu. Isuzu is a good bet. Good service everywhere and much cheaper than Toyota. I've owned several Mitsubishi's - Triton, Lancer and multiple Magnas. They have never let me down, good engineering. I can understand good-looking sedans or coupes. I don't understand how what is basically a truck can be described as good-looking.
May 20, 20188 yr 42 minutes ago, Lacessit said: I've owned several Mitsubishi's - Triton, Lancer and multiple Magnas. They have never let me down, good engineering. I can understand good-looking sedans or coupes. I don't understand how what is basically a truck can be described as good-looking.
May 20, 20188 yr 1 hour ago, transam said: With the suspension lowered that much, IMHO it is not what we in Australia call a utility, because it is no longer fulfilling its original function. One bag of wheat in the back in a paddock, and you'd be ripping the diff off. Does look nice, though.
May 20, 20188 yr 5 minutes ago, Lacessit said: With the suspension lowered that much, IMHO it is not what we in Australia call a utility, because it is no longer fulfilling its original function. One bag of wheat in the back in a paddock, and you'd be ripping the diff off. Does look nice, though. That was my point....One can usually make anything look coooooool....
May 20, 20188 yr It looks like it’s on “hydraulics” so you could raise it if need be.Ride is crap though
May 20, 20188 yr 2 hours ago, mogandave said: It looks like it’s on “hydraulics” so you could raise it if need be. Ride is crap though I'd be looking for scratch marks on the door handles....
May 20, 20188 yr On 4/30/2018 at 9:12 AM, transam said: Why do you think the Revo is as dull as a plank, just interested..... Does a tiny ladder come with it? Edited May 20, 20188 yr by jenny2017
May 20, 20188 yr 2 hours ago, transam said: That was my point....One can usually make anything look coooooool.... One bag of weed and then it's a whole sack......
May 20, 20188 yr 2 minutes ago, jenny2017 said: Does a tiny ladder come with it? No, only those of a certain height can buy it...All others must buy a Ford or Chevy cos their main dealer spends more time climbing over it....
May 20, 20188 yr 50 minutes ago, transam said: No, only those of a certain height can buy it...All others must buy a Ford or Chevy cos their main dealer spends more time climbing over it....
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