webfact Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Developing nations to study ways to dim sunshine, slow warming By Alister Doyle FILE PHOTO: A passenger jet flies past the setting sun in Shanghai March 11, 2014. REUTERS/Aly Song/File Photo OSLO (Reuters) - Scientists in developing nations plan to step up research into dimming sunshine to curb climate change, hoping to judge if a man-made chemical sunshade would be less risky than a harmful rise in global temperatures. Research into "solar geo-engineering", which would mimic big volcanic eruptions that can cool the Earth by masking the sun with a veil of ash, is now dominated by rich nations and universities such as Harvard and Oxford. Twelve scholars, from countries including Bangladesh, Brazil, China, Ethiopia, India, Jamaica and Thailand, wrote in the journal Nature on Wednesday that the poor were most vulnerable to global warming and should be more involved. "Developing countries must lead on solar geo-engineering research," they wrote in a commentary. "The overall idea (of solar geo-engineering) is pretty crazy but it is gradually taking root in the world of research," lead author Atiq Rahman, head of the Bangladesh Centre for Advanced Studies, told Reuters by telephone. The solar geo-engineering studies would be helped by a new$400,000 fund from the Open Philanthropy Project, a foundation backed by Dustin Moskovitz, a co-founder of Facebook, and his wife, Cari Tuna, they wrote. The fund could help scientists in developing nations study regional impacts of solar geo-engineering such as on droughts, floods or monsoons, said Andy Parker, a co-author and project director of the Solar Radiation Management Governance Initiative. Rahman said the academics were not taking sides about whether geo-engineering would work. Among proposed ideas, planes might spray clouds of reflective sulphur particles high in the Earth's atmosphere. "The technique is controversial, and rightly so. It is too early to know what its effects would be: it could be very helpful or very harmful," they wrote. A U.N. panel of climate experts, in a leaked draft of a report about global warming due for publication in October, is sceptical about solar geo-engineering, saying it may be "economically, socially and institutionally infeasible." Among risks, the draft obtained by Reuters says it might disrupt weather patterns, could be hard to stop once started, and might discourage countries from making a promised switch from fossil fuels to cleaner energies. Still, Rahman said most developed nations had "abysmally failed" so far in their pledges to cut greenhouse gas emissions, making radical options to limit warming more attractive. The world is set for a warming of three degrees Celsius (5.7 Fahrenheit) or more above pre-industrial times, he said, far above a goal of keeping a rise in temperatures "well below" 2C (3.6F) under the 2015 Paris Agreement among almost 200 nations. (Reporting By Alister Doyle; Editing by Richard Balmforth) -- © Copyright Reuters 2018-04-04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesSwann Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Anyone suggested capping economic growth to a rate at which its harmful effects can be properly managed? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotsak Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 How about a pair of shades? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post daoyai Posted April 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2018 "Bangladesh center for advanced studies"..... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) Highlander 3 comes to mind. I remember the woman's exhilarated shouting "Ahh! the sky ! so blue! " after the shield was destroyed at last. I don't trust man made manipulation in nature ... Edited April 4, 2018 by sweatalot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, webfact said: "The overall idea (of solar geo-engineering) is pretty crazy but it is gradually taking root in the world of research," lead author Atiq Rahman, head of the Bangladesh Centre for Advanced Studies, told Reuters I agree with the first part of that opening sentence and seriously doubt everything after “but”. Stop polluting the the earth and invest in “Green Technology” if you want to reverse global warming. Edited April 4, 2018 by Bluespunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post marko kok prong Posted April 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2018 This story should have appeared on the first of April. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorG Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 head-shake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post johng Posted April 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) I thought the annual burning of the fields was the developing nations ( poor mans) "nuclear winter" earth cooling experiment... just needs more countries to join in and I'm sure it'll work ! Edited April 4, 2018 by johng 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brain150 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 It's being done for a long time EVERY DAY already ! Just look into the sky - it's called Solar-Radiation-Management !!! The patents are out there to read for everybody who wants to read them. Weather modification is being done world wide. Geo-Engineering would be the more accurate term. And please don't mix up Geo-Engineering with solving the problem of environmental pollution ... they are two very different things !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukeeboy Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 It's not nice to fool Mother Nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pkspeaker Posted April 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2018 Shouldn't be too difficult to stop global warming since it does not exist, except on fake and falsified temp records while the Earth has been cooling for the last 20 years with winters becoming more intense and longer, it was another snowy Easter Sunday. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gogetem Posted April 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, pkspeaker said: Shouldn't be too difficult to stop global warming since it does not exist, except on fake and falsified temp records while the Earth has been cooling for the last 20 years with winters becoming more intense and longer, it was another snowy Easter Sunday. Global warming nonsense. I was in the NE United States for the past 2 months. Massive amounts of snow. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuaBS Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 3 hours ago, milwaukeeboy said: It's not nice to fool Mother Nature. Mother nature needs a hysteractomy stat ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post maximillian Posted April 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 hour ago, BuaBS said: Mother nature needs a hysterectomy stat ! Mother earth needs to get rid of that homo sapiens infestation. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinchester Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 9 hours ago, daoyai said: "Bangladesh center for advanced studies"..... Why not? Bangladesh stands at the head of the queue to be obliterated by any rise in sea levels so hopefully the right people are there to monitor the coming changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brain150 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 3 hours ago, maximillian said: Mother earth needs to get rid of that homo sapiens infestation. ... you might want to start with yourself ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, brain150 said: ... you might want to start with yourself ? World needs to get back to population of the 1950s to have a chance of reversing any harmful rise in summer temperatures. That's a lot more than himself. Perhaps the current superbug problem in which harmful bugs have become immune to antibiotics because of abuse by humans will be Gaia's way of reducing the population. Another Black plague, anyone? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 3 hours ago, edwinchester said: Why not? Bangladesh stands at the head of the queue to be obliterated by any rise in sea levels so hopefully the right people are there to monitor the coming changes. Bangladesh is more likely to be destroyed by overpopulation than by rising sea levels. it's never a good idea to have to live on areas almost at seas levels anyway, but they are so crowded they have no choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargeezr Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Please do not say that global warming is not mankinds fault, or you will insult those important people, like, Al Gore, Neil Young, David Susuki and all the Green Peace folks. Yes yearly burning crops and such will dim the sun, but volcanoes do the job as well, More volcanoes! Geezer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 6 hours ago, edwinchester said: Why not? Bangladesh stands at the head of the queue to be obliterated by any rise in sea levels so hopefully the right people are there to monitor the coming changes. Maybe something to do with the abundance of degrees provided by University of Photoshop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximillian Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 13 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: World needs to get back to population of the 1950s to have a chance of reversing any harmful rise in summer temperatures. That's a lot more than himself. Perhaps the current superbug problem in which harmful bugs have become immune to antibiotics because of abuse by humans will be Gaia's way of reducing the population. Another Black plague, anyone? Nukes will do the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbagwill Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 There are 2 kinds of climate change denier..... The easily fooled and the foolers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andaman Al Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 On 4/5/2018 at 12:17 PM, maximillian said: Nukes will do the job. Let me guess, - as long as the nukes aren't used near you and your family? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbagwill Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Andaman Al said: Let me guess, - as long as the nukes aren't used near you and your family? It would some posters have never heard of nuclear fall out. Why is it that some simple minds think that problems have a cut and dried beginning and end that can be solved by sudden and violent means? Do they not realise that this is usually the cause of a problem rather than any cure? Edited April 9, 2018 by Airbagwill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximillian Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 12 hours ago, Andaman Al said: Let me guess, - as long as the nukes aren't used near you and your family? Al, you didn't get the irony of my comment. Tell that to the USI governments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andaman Al Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 2 hours ago, maximillian said: Al, you didn't get the irony of my comment. Tell that to the USI governments. My unreserved apologies. Resetting my irony threshold now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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