BuriramSam Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Just now, bristolboy said: And nothing at all to do with a scrupulous adherence to confidentiality? I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bristolboy Posted April 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2018 Just now, BuriramSam said: I don't know. How can you not know given your extraordinary mind reading abilities? After all, you just told us re: Mueller that "He can't do that because the nature and scope evolves with his desire to get Trump at any cost." 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuriramSam Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, bristolboy said: How can you not know given your extraordinary mind reading abilities? After all, you just told us re: Mueller that "He can't do that because the nature and scope evolves with his desire to get Trump at any cost." No mind reading abilities claimed not needed, just basic powers of observation. The investigation has gone from Trump Russia collusion to sex with a prostitute. Perhaps Stormy Daniels is actually a Russian spy? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bristolboy Posted April 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2018 Just now, BuriramSam said: No mind reading abilities claimed not needed, just basic powers of observation. The investigation has gone from Trump Russia collusion to sex with a prostitute. Perhaps Stormy Daniels is actually a Russian spy? No, the investigation hasn't gone from the Russian portion of the investigation. It has expanded. That is a crucial, huge, and obvious difference from the way you represent it. And I'm surprised you don't understand how prosecutors typically use leverage to flip potential witnesses. Cohen may have much to contribute re Trump's Russian activities. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuriramSam Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, bristolboy said: No, the investigation hasn't gone from the Russian portion of the investigation. It has expanded. That is a crucial, huge, and obvious difference from the way you represent it. And I'm surprised you don't understand how prosecutors typically use leverage to flip potential witnesses. Cohen may have much to contribute re Trump's Russian activities. So the investigation has expanded, but nature and scope has not evolved. Okey dokey. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 So we lurch from Russia to Porn Stars to FBI kiss and tell book? Raiding lawyers offices? just hours before a meeting about POTUS meeting special counsel? doesn't all this STINK? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post attrayant Posted April 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2018 Just now, BuriramSam said: So the investigation has expanded, but nature and scope has not evolved. The scope was established in the appointment letter, which has been posted here many times. Mueller's scope is open-ended, allowing him great latitude to pursue criminal activity wherever he may find it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Just now, BuriramSam said: So the investigation has expanded, but nature and scope has not evolved. Okey dokey. Now you're saying something different. "The investigation has gone from Trump Russia collusion to sex with a prostitute. " does not equal "So the investigation has expanded, but nature and scope has not evolved." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post attrayant Posted April 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, BobBKK said: Doesn't all this STINK? Maybe you could explain why it stinks instead of asking rhetorical questions. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuriramSam Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 1 minute ago, bristolboy said: Now you're saying something different. "The investigation has gone from Trump Russia collusion to sex with a prostitute. " does not equal "So the investigation has expanded, but nature and scope has not evolved." Different words, essentially the same message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bristolboy Posted April 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2018 1 minute ago, BuriramSam said: Different words, essentially the same message. Not at all. You claimed that the investigation has gone from Russia to prostitution. The Russian portion of the investigation is still very vigorously underway as the indictments of Manafort and the guilty plea and cooperation of Gates conclusively establish. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Srikcir Posted April 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2018 14 minutes ago, BuriramSam said: So the investigation has expanded, but nature and scope has not evolved. Okey dokey. Mueller's investigation has not expanded. His team being FBI investigators detected possible crimes (ie., bank fraud, wire fraud, election fraud) unrelated to the Russian investigation (at least this far - but Cohen as a Subject and likely Target being Trump's personal attorney may also have documentation related to Russian collusion) and referred to the FBI Southern District of New York office for their consideration. The latter are not part of Mueller's investigative team, albeit Mueller does coordinate his investigation with several FBI district offices. But Trump only sees the FBI as a monolithic "deep-state" organization set on seeing Trump removed. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted April 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2018 56 minutes ago, BuriramSam said: There would be no "trying". A president can pardon whomever they want. Only federal. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted April 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2018 1 hour ago, BuriramSam said: There would be no "trying". A president can pardon whomever they want. You seem to know more than the leading Constitutional lawyers. In the first instance, there is a big question over whether a President can pardon someone if he himself is a co-conspirator in the crime he is pardoning. Even if a president did pardon a co-conspirator, that get's the individual off a crime but places the President in legal jeopardy for obstruction of justice. Issuing a Pardon comes with a political cost, it raises questions over the motivation behind the pardon and creates a public discussion on those motives. The President can in theory issue an unlimited number of pardons, but because of the political cost of each pardon he can only issue very few. He understands this and will keep his 'pardon powder dry' incase he has to issue a pardon for himself. The President will save his pardon powers for himself and his immediate family. I'd advise his immediate family not to bet on him doing anything other than looking after himself. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Miller Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, lannarebirth said: ...pretty common knowledge. Is commonly known as bullpucky. Please give us some evidence that this happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BuriramSam Posted April 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) 28 minutes ago, stevenl said: Only federal. You are correct. I looked it up. Thanks! Edited April 13, 2018 by BuriramSam Mistake 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bill Miller said: Is commonly known as bullpucky. Please give us some evidence that this happened. https://calwatchdog.com/2013/04/07/why-kamala-harris-is-probably-not-thrilled-with-compliment/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuriramSam Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bill Miller said: Is commonly known as bullpucky. Please give us some evidence that this happened. https://www.google.co.th/search?q=kamala+harris+way+slept+her+way+into+politics&oq=kamala+harris+way+slept+her+way+into+politics&aqs=chrome..69i57.18861j0j7&client=ms-android-att-aio-us&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 9 minutes ago, lannarebirth said: I don't think that's a low blow. She slept her way into politics. That's pretty common knowledge. I don't think she's the first, but as an example to young women I hope she is among the last. Really? Here's what you wrote " As is Willie Brown's mistress, Kamala Harris." So, you're alleging that she and Willie Brown are still having an affair that's gone on now for more than 20 years? And what's with the word "mistress"? What century do you hail from. And because she had an affair with Willie Brown, that means she "slept her way into politics." In fact, her relationship with Brown was used against her when she first ran for office. You don't have a very high opinion of women, do you? God knows what trashy right wing website you got this info from. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 1 minute ago, bristolboy said: Really? Here's what you wrote " As is Willie Brown's mistress, Kamala Harris." So, you're alleging that she and Willie Brown are still having an affair that's gone on now for more than 20 years? And what's with the word "mistress"? What century do you hail from. And because she had an affair with Willie Brown, that means she "slept her way into politics." In fact, her relationship with Brown was used against her when she first ran for office. You don't have a very high opinion of women, do you? God knows what trashy right wing website you got this info from. Well maybe Stormy will throw her hat in the ring too. Hey, and to bring the story back on topic, Willie's current mistress is Russian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, BuriramSam said: https://www.google.co.th/search?q=kamala+harris+way+slept+her+way+into+politics&oq=kamala+harris+way+slept+her+way+into+politics&aqs=chrome..69i57.18861j0j7&client=ms-android-att-aio-us&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8 I read the first line of that and it was enough. Willis Harris amicably separated from his wife in 1982. So the fact that he was still legally married is relevant how? Just now, lannarebirth said: Well maybe Stormy will throw her hat in the ring too. Hey, and to bring the story back on topic, Willie's current mistress is Russian. You just can't stop sliming, can you. And you're still using that "mistress" word. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Miller Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 16 minutes ago, lannarebirth said: https://calwatchdog.com/2013/04/07/why-kamala-harris-is-probably-not-thrilled-with-compliment/ I said evidence, not extreme right wing yellow journalism."To read CalWatchdog is to dive into a site that feels anything but non-partisan. It is an extremely right-wing publication," 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Miller Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 18 minutes ago, BuriramSam said: https://www.google.co.th/search?q=kamala+harris+way+slept+her+way+into+politics&oq=kamala+harris+way+slept+her+way+into+politics&aqs=chrome..69i57.18861j0j7&client=ms-android-att-aio-us&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8 Again, all right wing trash, not even slightly evidentiary. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Bill Miller said: I said evidence, not extreme right wing yellow journalism."To read CalWatchdog is to dive into a site that feels anything but non-partisan. It is an extremely right-wing publication," It's on her Wiki page for Christ's sake. You really didn't know this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Just now, lannarebirth said: It's on her Wiki page for Christ's sake. You really didn't know this? It's on her Wiki page that she slept her way into politics? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 1 minute ago, bristolboy said: It's on her Wiki page that she slept her way into politics? She's dating the most powerful politician in California, she failed the bar, she gets appointed to multiple high paying government positions by the man she is dating. Call it what you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Miller Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 13 minutes ago, lannarebirth said: It's on her Wiki page for Christ's sake. You really didn't know this? It says nowhere on her Wiki page that "she slept her way into politics". She went the same route that most men politicians went, by earning a law degree and getting publicly ELECTED to office, unless you are going to try and suggest she slept with the entire electorate, as well. Who she may or may not have dated has no bearing on what was obviously an early career choice. Typical conservative effort to demean a successful woman, IMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Just now, Bill Miller said: It says nowhere on her Wiki page that "she slept her way into politics". She went the same route that most men politicians went, by earning a law degree and getting publicly ELECTED to office, unless you are going to try and suggest she slept with the entire electorate, as well. Who she may or may not have dated has no bearing on what was obviously an early career choice. Typical conservative effort to demean a successful woman, IMO. I'm a Democrat from California. I have two similarly beautiful daughters who have just /just about to graduate college. I've encouraged them not to take shortcuts in pursuing their respective careers.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Miller Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 13 minutes ago, lannarebirth said: She's dating the most powerful politician in California, she failed the bar, she gets appointed to multiple high paying government positions by the man she is dating. Call it what you like. Failed the bar on her first try, but made it second time. A very common experience. In point of fact Brown broke off the relationship before Harris was recruited In 2000 by San Francisco's elected City Attorney Louise Renne to join her office. Makes your statement "She's dating the most powerful politician in California, ...she gets appointed to multiple high paying government positions by the man she is dating" a pile of stinky stuff.I imagine you would claim that she slept with Renne, too? "After the Fajitagate scandal, Harris defeated two-term incumbent Terence Hallinan in the 2003 election to become District Attorney of the City and County of San Francisco." To re-iterate, "elected". Feedback Elected | Define Elected at Dictionary.com www.dictionary.com/browse/elected 1. (transitive) to choose (someone) to be (a representative or a public official) by voting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Bill Miller said: Failed the bar on her first try, but made it second time. A very common experience. In point of fact Brown broke off the relationship before Harris was recruited In 2000 by San Francisco's elected City Attorney Louise Renne to join her office. Makes your statement "She's dating the most powerful politician in California, ...she gets appointed to multiple high paying government positions by the man she is dating" a pile of stinky stuff.I imagine you would claim that she slept with Renne, too? "After the Fajitagate scandal, Harris defeated two-term incumbent Terence Hallinan in the 2003 election to become District Attorney of the City and County of San Francisco." To re-iterate, "elected". Feedback Elected | Define Elected at Dictionary.com www.dictionary.com/browse/elected 1. (transitive) to choose (someone) to be (a representative or a public official) by voting I'm the one that directed you to Wiki, remember? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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