Aging: Blessing or curse?

[swissie]

- By getting older, do you rather experience it as "Your Golden Years" (having gained the wisdom that you didn't have when you were 20, seeing things in a more relaxed way, therefore adding to "inner-peace" you didn't have when you were 20? Etc.. etc..etc..

OR:

- Do you rather feel like sitting in a waiting room, waiting for the inevitable. Getting up tomorrow considered as a gift, that allowes for performing the things that age and health still allow to perform and experience?

How is this "aging-business" going for you?
Cheers.

PS: The concept of aquiring wisdom with age, is open to discussion, especially when a "wise" old Farang decides that marrying a 25 year old Thai Female is the climax of his aquired wisdom over the years. 

[poanoi]

i lost my wisdom as i aged,

today i got zero ability to focus or solve most of the equations i

learned once upon a time, i also lost command of german language altogether.

 

aging is a curse when it comes to women,

the days when they were standing in cue to worship my dick was over at 40,

otoh its a blessing to finally meet requirements for retirement visa at 50

[bendejo]

Check out a movie called "Lucky" with Harry Dean Stanton, a guy who had been a character actor almost as long as I've been alive.  He died before it was released.  I especially like when he explained the difference between alone and lonely.

 

I'm witnessing my own falling apart, but it's not unbearable.  Yet.  I'm giving more attention to my health now than ever before in my life, but I don't want to spend the rest of my time obsessing about it.

I'm not about to go around making passes at women and making a fool of myself, but I'm glad I was able to live out the bulk of my fantasies, sexual and otherwise, in my younger years.  I didn't aspire to wealth, had too much of a hippie mentality I guess, but I do wish I would have been able to have a private jet and the wherewithal to maintain it.  That, and time travel, are really my only unfulfilled fantasies.  (The younger generations have this thing about "your life's dream," I never had that; maybe it was to travel the world, which I did).  On the other hand, if I had known at the time how promiscuous Natalie Wood was in the 1970s (screwing the pool boy etc, or so they say) I would have moved to Los Angeles and tried to make that happen .

 

What is happening now is I'm recalling things from decades ago that I never looked back on before, maybe just a few words someone said to me when I was 18, realizing I didn't get something that was said to me at the time, lamenting an opportunity I missed 50 years ago, and other such things.

 

Is it possible to live too long?  Depends on the sins of your past -- just ask Bill Cosby.  Jimmy Seville got out before it caught up to him.

 

Live long and appreciate it.

 

 

[simoh1490]

I read a report on a UK nurse who had spent around fifty years of her life caring for older people, she wrote words to the effect of....about one more year and I'm headed to Digitas and if that is disallowed I'll find another route, I've been watching people age for the past fifty years and it's a dreadful thing that I have no intention of enduring.

 

I'm now nearly 70 and I can relate to the above very well although I am still mobile and fairly fit, no amount of positive mental energy is going to change the reality of ageing.

[giddyup]

4 hours ago, simoh1490 said:

I read a report on a UK nurse who had spent around fifty years of her life caring for older people, she wrote words to the effect of....about one more year and I'm headed to Digitas and if that is disallowed I'll find another route, I've been watching people age for the past fifty

What does heading for Digitas mean?

[colinneil]

3 minutes ago, giddyup said:

What does heading for Digitas mean?

Digitas is in switzerland, a clinic where they assist people to die.

[giddyup]

4 minutes ago, colinneil said:

Digitas is in switzerland, a clinic where they assist people to die.

Thanks. I googled it, but I see no mention of euthanasia.

[OneMoreFarang]

11 hours ago, swissie said:

PS: The concept of aquiring wisdom with age, is open to discussion, especially when a "wise" old Farang decides that marrying a 25 year old Thai Female is the climax of his aquired wisdom over the years. 

I was never married with a farang woman but I know a couple of guys who had to pay millions to get divorced - after lots or headache and no sex and and and.

And if these guys change from an ugly old farang woman to a sexy young Thai girl then I wouldn't call that a mistake.

[watcharacters]

2 hours ago, giddyup said:

Thanks. I googled it, but I see no mention of euthanasia.

 

 

This may help:

 

http://www.dignitas.ch/images/stories/pdf/informations-broschuere-dignitas-e.pdf

 

I haven't read all of it yet but I wonder if it requires a terminal diagnosis from an MD?

[bert bloggs]

The only thing i can add is ,that i have had a bloody great life , from when i was young living in a small coastal town ,to the 60s in London where i mixed with the famous and the ordinary , i have had sex with so many lovely women .i even married a few , i have been ill and got over it ,i have traveled all over ,never been rich but comfortable , and now for the last 20 years have been married to the love of my life , the only bad thing is i will die long before her ,or should i say the good thing ,because if anything happened to her i dread to think .

[giddyup]

19 minutes ago, watcharacters said:

 

 

This may help:

 

http://www.dignitas.ch/images/stories/pdf/informations-broschuere-dignitas-e.pdf

 

I haven't read all of it yet but I wonder if it requires a terminal diagnosis from an MD?

Cheers. I guess we are all terminal in a way.

[Kwasaki]

Can't do much about it so don't really think about it, l'm happier really younger life was a bit of a slog. 

[watcharacters]

9 minutes ago, giddyup said:

Cheers. I guess we are all terminal in a way.

 

 

Perhaps,  but not medically diagnosed.

[tutsiwarrior]

a lot of folks mention that one becomes invisible with old age...

 

sounds rather appealing...

 

 

[starky]

Sorry to be a wet blanket. Surely it is a curse. Some will be lucky and still have decent mobility and most of their faculties right up until they die. Many however are not so lucky. I wouldn't call struggling through years of a debilitating disease, dementia, being infirm or waiting to die in a hospice or nursing home, watching friends and acquaintances slowly dying off as any sort of a blessing. Terribly morbid topic. It is what it is and for the most part is about acceptance of your fate and not something to dwell on IMO.

[simoh1490]

4 hours ago, watcharacters said:

 

 

This may help:

 

http://www.dignitas.ch/images/stories/pdf/informations-broschuere-dignitas-e.pdf

 

I haven't read all of it yet but I wonder if it requires a terminal diagnosis from an MD?

It does, plus you need to pass a series of interviews over time with them before things proceed.

[watcharacters]

27 minutes ago, simoh1490 said:

It does, plus you need to pass a series of interviews over time with them before things proceed.

 

If a person's decision is made thoughtfully, I think the process should be as easy as getting take out from a fast food place

[simoh1490]

2 minutes ago, watcharacters said:

 

If a person's decision is made thoughtfully, I think the process should be as easy as getting take out from a fast food place

I'd like a double cheeseburger, a strawberry shake and a cup of arsenic,

 

More seriously, the person needs to be proven sane and the decision must stand the test of time, it's not exactly done on a walk-in basis.please.

[watcharacters]

40 minutes ago, simoh1490 said:

I'd like a double cheeseburger, a strawberry shake and a cup of arsenic,

 

More seriously, the person needs to be proven sane and the decision must stand the test of time, it's not exactly done on a walk-in basis.please.

 

Wh have different opinions then. .

 

No problem.

[swissie]

9 hours ago, watcharacters said:

 

 

This may help:

 

http://www.dignitas.ch/images/stories/pdf/informations-broschuere-dignitas-e.pdf

 

I haven't read all of it yet but I wonder if it requires a terminal diagnosis from an MD?

Actually, next to DIGNITAS there is also an organisation called EXIT, both based in Switzerland.
It's not a fast track to heaven. They will assess every "case" thoroughly. If it comes to a "go ahead", it's mostly based on the fact that the person suffers from an incurable desease and the pain can no more be reduced by medication.

[ChiangMaiLightning2143]

 
 
This may help:
 
http://www.dignitas.ch/images/stories/pdf/informations-broschuere-dignitas-e.pdf
 
I haven't read all of it yet but I wonder if it requires a terminal diagnosis from an MD?

Why not just jump off a car park?

[bendejo]

If you're interested enough in this topic to make it as far down the thread to here you'd probably appreciate this article.

 

This Old Man, Life in the nineties
By Roger Angell

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/02/17/old-man-3

 

 

[bendejo]

19 hours ago, simoh1490 said:

I read a report on a UK nurse who had spent around fifty years of her life caring for older people, she wrote words to the effect of....about one more year and I'm headed to Digitas and if that is disallowed I'll find another route, I've been watching people age for the past fifty years and it's a dreadful thing that I have no intention of enduring.

 

The trick there is knowing when to say "when."  Tomorrow?  Next week?  Well at least not until that new movie comes out, etc...

 

I didn't know what Digitas means either, and web searches didn't seem to connect it to the topic; well, not at a glance anyway. 

In the US the buzzword for euthanasia is still Kavorkian.  One fellow told me there is a society that administers a fatal milkshake for the final solution.  For myself, if I did it, I'd consider the long walk off a short pier or similar.  Maybe go down to Rio and bonk myself to death in the brothels, what a way to go!

I would strongly recommend not mentioning going this route to anyone, especially in the health care field.  You can find yourself subject to some sort of treatment, held against your will as "a harm to yourself" etc.

 

 

[cyberfarang]

Being retired, 55 and over:

 

PROS:

 

• Already established, less stress and a laid back lifestyle.
• Have more freedoms not having the encumbrances of work, financial security (or should have unless they are losers) and living how they please.
• Have a wealth of knowledge gained from a lifetime of experiences.
• Older people have more clout than younger people when it comes to interactions in social and public life, with the belief they are older and should be wiser, therefore command some respect.

 

CONS:

 

• No one wants to employ us and starting any exciting new careers is very unlikely.
• No longer physically desirable to younger women, in many cases money and status has to substitute for physical attractiveness.
• Sexual encounters with younger desirable women become fond memories.
• Although most have better financial means on retirement and have more freedoms to do as they please, physically we slow down year by year and although the mind is willing, the body becomes weak.
• Less people want to know us once we get old. It is easy to fall into stagnation with very few friends (if any) and mentally and physically go into decline, as many do.
• Done this, done that. When older it becomes more difficult to get interested and excited about most things, because there becomes very few new life experiences to be had. Actually getting out there into the big wide world and doing things becomes a chore.
• Try to act not of people of our age, then we get perceived as senile old fools.
• Try to dress modern and up to date, then we are described as middle or old age trendies.
• They become more picky, often even reclusive, when it comes to accepting others into their social circles.

The question; is aging a blessing or a curse? I know many old people that wish they were 20, 30 or 40 years younger, but I`ve never met any young people that wish they could be 50 years old or older.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 13, 2018 by cyberfarang

[poanoi]

here is how it can be done

 

[Airalee]

I’m only 49, but I had a botched sinus surgery two years ago that left me with an iatrogenic complication known as “Empty Nose Syndrome”.  There is no cure.  I feel like I am suffocating with every breath.  Now, for me, every day seems like a curse and death will be a blessing.

[giddyup]

5 minutes ago, Airalee said:

I’m only 49, but I had a botched sinus surgery two years ago that left me with an iatrogenic complication known as “Empty Nose Syndrome”.  There is no cure.  I feel like I am suffocating with every breath.  Now, for me, every day seems like a curse and death will be a blessing.

I feel for you. I just read up on your condition, one I knew nothing about, but it sounds horrific.

[giddyup]

2 hours ago, bendejo said:

I didn't know what Digitas means either, and web searches didn't seem to connect it to the topic; well, not at a glance anyway. 

In the US the buzzword for euthanasia is still Kavorkian. 

The reason I couldn't find any info either was because it's DIGNITAS,not Digitas.

[luk AJ]

If you can use all the advantages of aging, it can be a blessing. Once the children are settled, more time is available and professionaly more risks can be taken.
If this can be combined with good health, life can be very interesting even until very old age. I started my company when I was 55, doing business keeps you connected and alert. I am content and this 3rd chapter of my life is so far the most interesting. Instead of a reward at the end of our life, we are confronted with death and that’s not fair!


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[kannot]

Unfortunately my Dad said this to me once and it really stuck in my mind..........."Its no fun getting old"