Ive been blacklisted 10years for overstay on visa.  Im hearing many mixed stories. Can anyone verify what the situation is if you change name legally by deed poll. Can you get back in or not?

Another first timer.  It's either a 'first timer' or 'a friend of mine'

 

Enjoy

Risky since you will have the same nationality and date of birth.

Some countries also record a change of name on the chip in passports now.

Mmmm  - You can try but you cannot change your nationality, date of birth or facial features. Remember also that attempting to enter the country illegally is likely to be viewed as a very serious offence. 

how long was your overstay ?

also, thailand isnt the only country in the world with tropical climate,

there's plenty to chose from.

as a last resort, if its thailand or die,

join french foreign legion, after 5 years you will have a new identity

Edited April 17, 20188 yr by poanoi

They're using facial scanners.

2 minutes ago, poanoi said:

how long was your overstay ?

also, thailand isnt the only country in the world with tropical climate,

there's plenty to chose from.

as a last resort, if its thailand or die,

join french foreign legion, after 5 years you will have a new identity

What an answer to join the French Legion. 

1 minute ago, jenny2017 said:

They're using facial scanners.

 

Apparently not enough to keep loads of foreigners from getting into the country (by land border crossings???) and later getting arrested for illegal entry in the series of raids that Big Joke and his police minions have been having in BKK lately.

 

Swampy and DM aren't the only entries into the country.

 

4 minutes ago, jenny2017 said:

They're using facial scanners.

I have a thai wife over there.  My passport was stolen. By time my new one arrived i was on overstay. When i told immigration it was stolen and provided police reports they didnt care. Just said it was my problem and sent me to detention centre in Bangkok 

12 minutes ago, Keithsbd said:

I have a thai wife over there.  My passport was stolen. By time my new one arrived i was on overstay. When i told immigration it was stolen and provided police reports they didnt care. Just said it was my problem and sent me to detention centre in Bangkok 

if you try and enter just by changing your name and they find out you know where you'll end up then. best thing you can try to do is appeal if you have a wife IMO but i hear it's not easy or cheap to get a BL overturned though

* also to get a ten year ban you overstayed a hell of a lot longer than it would take to get a new passport had it been stolen. are you telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

Edited April 17, 20188 yr by Happy enough
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5 minutes ago, Keithsbd said:

I have a thai wife over there.  My passport was stolen. By time my new one arrived i was on overstay. When i told immigration it was stolen and provided police reports they didnt care. Just said it was my problem and sent me to detention centre in Bangkok 

You dont get a 10 year ban for an overstay of a couple of weeks waiting for a passport. A 10 year ban is for an overstay of more than a year, if they caught you.

A 10 year ban is the penalty for a 5 year overstay, if as you say, you surrendered to immigration.

1 minute ago, Happy enough said:

if you try and enter just by changing your name and they find out you know where you'll end up then. best thing you can try to do is appeal if you have a wife IMO but i hear it's not easy or cheap to get a BL overturned though

Lawyer seems to think can get it down from 10years to 5years

5 minutes ago, Keithsbd said:

I have a thai wife over there.  My passport was stolen. By time my new one arrived i was on overstay. When i told immigration it was stolen and provided police reports they didnt care. Just said it was my problem and sent me to detention centre in Bangkok 

Are you sure it is for 10 years.

How many years were you on an overstay. Unless you were on of a overstay for 5 years or more unless caught with it you would not of been banned for 10 years. See: New overstay rules.pdf

11 minutes ago, Keithsbd said:

I have a thai wife over there.  My passport was stolen. By time my new one arrived i was on overstay. When i told immigration it was stolen and provided police reports they didnt care. Just said it was my problem and sent me to detention centre in Bangkok 

A 10 year ban is for an overstay of 5 years. That is sure a slow passport service you received.

6 minutes ago, tolsti said:

You dun't reed too gud do u? He clearly states 10 years in the OP.

so he is saying if he joins the foreign legion he can come back to thailand in 5 years instead of 10 as he'll have a new identity after 5 years

6 minutes ago, tolsti said:

You dun't reed too gud do u? He clearly states 10 years in the OP.

OP states a 10 year "ban" not a 10 year overstay. Maybe its you that doesnt reed too gud

21 minutes ago, Keithsbd said:

I have a thai wife over there.  My passport was stolen. By time my new one arrived i was on overstay. When i told immigration it was stolen and provided police reports they didnt care. Just said it was my problem and sent me to detention centre in Bangkok 

A 10-year ban relates to a significant overstay. Emergency Travel documents are provided within a  couple of days.  New passports can be obtained within, at most, a few weeks not months.

I didn't actually surrender. I asked immigration for advice.  When i found out that immgration didnt care it was stolen i would have been deported anyway so took my chances but caught up with me 18months later. Big sign in detention centre last week says up to 1 year overstay non surrender 5years ban. Over 1 year overstay non surrender 10 years ban.  Up to 1 year overstay  surrender 1year ban. Over stay more 1 year surrender 3 year ban. More 3 year overstay surrender 5 year ban. More 5 year surrender 10 year ban

4 minutes ago, Keithsbd said:

I didn't actually surrender. I asked immigration for advice.  When i found out that immgration didnt care it was stolen i would have been deported anyway so took my chances but caught up with me 18months later. Big sign in detention centre last week says up to 1 year overstay non surrender 5years ban. Over 1 year overstay non surrender 10 years ban.  Up to 1 year overstay  surrender 1year ban. Over stay more 1 year surrender 3 year ban. More 3 year overstay surrender 5 year ban. More 5 year surrender 10 year ban

so that explains it a bit better than your original post

that will be almost impossible to overturn i think

you can try the name change but you know you're running a risk and you've taken risks before and know where you could end up

Edited April 17, 20188 yr by Happy enough

Appreciate the comments but everyone is moving away from my original question about getting back in if change name. Ive had all the lectures and info about new passport arrival dates, length of overstays and bans etc. Thats happened.  I cant change that.

2 minutes ago, Happy enough said:

so that explains it a bit better than your original post

Yeah. Sorry. First post didnt explain fully 

7 minutes ago, Swimman said:

A 10-year ban relates to a significant overstay. Emergency Travel documents are provided within a  couple of days.  New passports can be obtained within, at most, a few weeks not months.

18 months total over. Non surrender 10 years. 3 years if had of surrendered

Probably cheaper to move your wife to where you are.

4 minutes ago, Happy enough said:

so that explains it a bit better than your original post

that will be almost impossible to overturn i think

you can try the name change but you know you're running a risk and you've taken risks before and know where you could end up

Think it was easy to do few years back but since chipped passport, fingerprjnting and face scanners. Im pretty sure your old details would be linked to new name. If not then every wanted criminal would be changing their name

One small question:

If you can come back on a new name… You wrote you married to a thai. But how you think you will stay inside Thailand? The Visa on marriage to a thai will not work, else they will find out your real name. Or you are already over 50 years and can ask for retirement?

But even with that and your address wich will be the same as from your old name… and you stay with a married wife, which is married to the old name… hmmmmm more risk will appear maybe

2 minutes ago, overherebc said:

Probably cheaper to move your wife to where you are.

That was a thought. Also she lives couple hours  from laos so that was another option for me to move there 

1 minute ago, HampiK said:

One small question:

If you can come back on a new name… You wrote you married to a thai. But how you think you will stay inside Thailand? The Visa on marriage to a thai will not work, else they will find out your real name. Or you are already over 50 years and can ask for retirement?

But even with that and your address wich will be the same as from your old name… and you stay with a married wife, which is married to the old name… hmmmmm more risk will appear maybe

Yeah ur right. Another thing to think about.  Had not thought at that. Thanks

1 minute ago, Keithsbd said:

That was a thought. Also she lives couple hours  from laos so that was another option for me to move there 

i hear it's pretty easy to cross from laos into thailand without going through immigration. i wouldn't suggest such a thing, just saying

12 minutes ago, Keithsbd said:

I didn't actually surrender. I asked immigration for advice.  When i found out that immgration didnt care it was stolen i would have been deported anyway so took my chances but caught up with me 18months later.

Bad move , you should have left Thailand immediately after getting a new PP and just paid the over stay fine

2 minutes ago, Happy enough said:

i hear it's pretty easy to cross from laos into thailand without going through immigration. i wouldn't suggest such a thing, just saying

If he did that and got caught, he would face  more serious charges