Leaving Thaland with old and/or new passport

[Brunolem]

Is it mandatory to visit the Thai immigration before using a new passport, or is it possible, for example, to check in for a flight to Europe at Suvarnabumi, showing both the new (and empty) passport and the old (with the required stamps) passport?

 

The reason I ask is because getting a new passport requires to go twice to the concerned embassy, once for the application, and once to collect the passport a few weeks later...not very convenient when you live far away from Bangkok.

 

Yet, since I will have to fly back home soon after getting my new passport, I would rather use the opportunity to travel to Bangkok to "kill two birds with one stone", first to collect my passport, then immediately go to the airport catch my flight.

 

If the transfer formality from old to new passport is mandatory, can it be done at any immigration office, or even at the airport?

 

Thanks for your input.

 

 

[ubonjoe]

What type of visa entry or extension of stay do you have now?

If you have a long stay extension you have to do it at the office where it was issued.

[Brunolem]

6 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

What type of visa entry or extension of stay do you have now?

If you have a long stay extension you have to do it at the office where it was issued.

I have a non O single entry that will expire with me leaving Thailand.

[ubonjoe]

18 minutes ago, Brunolem said:

I have a non O single entry that will expire with me leaving Thailand.

You can do it at the on departure from the country at the airport. You will show both passports and the officer will transfer your entry stamp to the new one and stamp you out of the country in it.

[Brunolem]

5 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

You can do it at the on departure from the country at the airport. You will show both passports and the officer will transfer your entry stamp to the new one and stamp you out of the country in it.

Thank you for this answer.

Hopefully, this procedure won't take too much time so that the other people waiting in line won't want to strangle me...

[overherebc]

1 hour ago, Brunolem said:

Thank you for this answer.

Hopefully, this procedure won't take too much time so that the other people waiting in line won't want to strangle me...

Maybe adds a minute, shouldn't take longer.

[BritTim]

6 hours ago, overherebc said:

8 hours ago, Brunolem said:

Thank you for this answer.

Hopefully, this procedure won't take too much time so that the other people waiting in line won't want to strangle me...

Maybe adds a minute, shouldn't take longer.

Actually, some extra time should be allowed. The transfer is not done at the immigration counter. They take you off to the office to get the stamp transferred and annotated. When I did it at Suvarnabhumi, it added about 20 minutes to the immigration formalities.

[Mitkof Island]

If your Type O is extended in Laos can the transfer also be done at the Lao border with your new passport? Example my passport was finished but i still had a valid Type O visa in my old passport and was leaving by land.

[ubonjoe]

1 hour ago, Mitkof Island said:

If your Type O is extended in Laos can the transfer also be done at the Lao border with your new passport? Example my passport was finished but i still had a valid Type O visa in my old passport and was leaving by land.

A non-o visa cannot be extended anywhere. I assume you are writing about getting a new 90 day entry (it is not an extension) using a multiple entry visa.

You have the stamps transferred at immigration on departure from the country to Laos. Dependent upon the crossing used you might be sent to a nearby immigration office to have your most recent entry stamp transferred. If you have a valid visa in you old passport you will have to show both passports on entry to use the visa in the old passport.

 

[overherebc]

9 hours ago, BritTim said:

Actually, some extra time should be allowed. The transfer is not done at the immigration counter. They take you off to the office to get the stamp transferred and annotated. When I did it at Suvarnabhumi, it added about 20 minutes to the immigration formalities.

For my non O multis always been done at the desk. Never seen the inside of the office.

[BritTim]

8 minutes ago, overherebc said:

For my non O multis always been done at the desk. Never seen the inside of the office.

Let me be clear what you are saying. For you, the official on the desk has had the stamp to annotate the new passport with information about your visa and old passport right there, and did the transfer right at the desk? I never had that experience. At a land border, I once actually had to wait for the right official to return to his office. At Suvarnabhumi, as I said, it was done around the back behind the desks, and took about 20 minutes. Both at land borders and Suvarnabhumi, photocopies were needed and a form completed.

[overherebc]

9 minutes ago, BritTim said:

Let me be clear what you are saying. For you, the official on the desk has had the stamp to annotate the new passport with information about your visa and old passport right there, and did the transfer right at the desk? I never had that experience. At a land border, I once actually had to wait for the right official to return to his office. At Suvarnabhumi, as I said, it was done around the back behind the desks, and took about 20 minutes. Both at land borders and Suvarnabhumi, photocopies were needed and a form completed.

Last time handed over new, and old with multi O still valid. IO stamped me out on new passport, on return handed over both and IO stamped me back in and wrote visa number on the stamp.

Maybe EoS is different.

[Khun Falang]

Hi Ubonjoe,

 

Can you please advise me on the following - 

 

My Retirement Visa (extension of stay) is good until April 4th, and so is my multi-entry re-entry permit.

 

My passport is almost full and I will renew it soon. I plan on returning to Thailand in December (am out of the country right now) and leaving Thailand in December (2-3 weeks stay in BKK). I know that I can enter Thailand with my new passport when issued and my extension of stay and re-entry permit (Multi Entry) still in my old (current) passport.

 

Since I will be back in Thailand in March 2019, in time to renew my extension of stay and re-entry permit, could I use my extension of stay and re-entry permit still in my old passport in March, or do I have to go to the immigration to transfer the stamps in December. I just hate the thought of spending an entire day at the immigration in BKK in December when I know I will renew both stamps in March...

 

Thanks.

[Brunolem]

10 hours ago, BritTim said:

Actually, some extra time should be allowed. The transfer is not done at the immigration counter. They take you off to the office to get the stamp transferred and annotated. When I did it at Suvarnabhumi, it added about 20 minutes to the immigration formalities.

Thanks for that information.

With enough time on hand, wouldn't it be better to first go to the immigration office at the airport (I think there is one) to do the transfer formalities?

That would avoid any trouble once showing up for check in and embarkment...

[overherebc]

10 minutes ago, Brunolem said:

Thanks for that information.

With enough time on hand, wouldn't it be better to first go to the immigration office at the airport (I think there is one) to do the transfer formalities?

That would avoid any trouble once showing up for check in and embarkment...

Bear in mind 'visas' are never transferred only extensions of stay are transferred to your new passport.

I'll say again you travel with old and new passports until the 'visa' in your old passport has expired. Every time you re-enter you hand over both and the IO will check the visa in your old passport is still valid and stamp you in in your new passport.

[Bangkok Barry]

11 hours ago, BritTim said:

Actually, some extra time should be allowed. The transfer is not done at the immigration counter. They take you off to the office to get the stamp transferred and annotated. When I did it at Suvarnabhumi, it added about 20 minutes to the immigration formalities.

 

Not for me, with a marriage multi O visa. I showed the two passports as I exited the country and was processed within a minute. No delay at all. I'll be going through the same thing again in a couple of weeks after my old passport became full. Is this yet another case of one officer doing one thing and another officer demanding something different?

[overherebc]

2 hours ago, BritTim said:

Let me be clear what you are saying. For you, the official on the desk has had the stamp to annotate the new passport with information about your visa and old passport right there, and did the transfer right at the desk? I never had that experience. At a land border, I once actually had to wait for the right official to return to his office. At Suvarnabhumi, as I said, it was done around the back behind the desks, and took about 20 minutes. Both at land borders and Suvarnabhumi, photocopies were needed and a form completed.

Coming back to this post.

If you have a non O single and you're leaving for a day or two you will need a re-entry to keep what's left of your 90 days alive.

If it's a multi O in your expired old passport but your multi O has a few months to go you don't need anything ( copies, forms etc ) just old and new passports.

All done by the IO at the desk.

[CanuckThai]

I got caught with a surprise leaving Thailand on my last Visa run to Vientiane. 

 

If you renew a passport here, try to get your in/out immigration sorted before hand, or plan for  (a lot of) potential additional time with immigration 

 

I left a few days early before my non-O expired, taking into consideration Songkran, the consulate "holiday"  hours and the possible throngs of people.  When I arrived and parked near the friendship bridge, it was 07:35.  I walked over to the Thai customs/immigration building, and was caught off guard by the amount of people in line to escape...hundreds.  Very few farrang, all Thai's and mostly Laos.  No problem...

 

Finally arrived at the wicket, to stamp out.  I was refused.  Told to go to the "overstay wicket line", politely confirmed with the immigration officer that I still had 4-5 days remaining on my visa.  "You have to go to overstay line!" was the reply.  Waited in line, finally got my chance at the wicket.  Was told I had to go to the immigration office building a few kilometers away from the border control building.   Ok...so be it.

 

Got a tuk tuk from the entrance of the customs area, to the immigration building...200b.  No problem.

 

I was carrying a fresh new Canadian passport issued from the CDN consulate in Bangkok, and my old one, that had my last Thai entry stamp (valid, not an overstay), and several valid visas/wp from other countries.  I looked at the time: 09:15.  I waited in cue for my turn.  My passport(s) were shuffled around from IO to IO and the new passport stamped (2 pages) with a "confirmation of non-overstay" enabling me to receive an exit stamp.  100b please.  10:15am, in a tuk tuk, back to Thai border IO line.  3 pages wrecked out of a new passport, and I hadn't actually arrived in a different country... 

 

Arrived at Vientiane Thai consulate at 11:30+ (no taxi deals or haggling, asked who could get me there the fastest) to submit visa application, was number 769....(last of the day).

 

6 pages used (non overstay/good guy in stamps, Laos visa, new Thai visa, out/in/out/in stamps) in total for 1 visa run....

 

 

 

 

[overherebc]

44 minutes ago, CanuckThai said:

I got caught with a surprise leaving Thailand on my last Visa run to Vientiane. 

 

If you renew a passport here, try to get your in/out immigration sorted before hand, or plan for  (a lot of) potential additional time with immigration 

 

I left a few days early before my non-O expired, taking into consideration Songkran, the consulate "holiday"  hours and the possible throngs of people.  When I arrived and parked near the friendship bridge, it was 07:35.  I walked over to the Thai customs/immigration building, and was caught off guard by the amount of people in line to escape...hundreds.  Very few farrang, all Thai's and mostly Laos.  No problem...

 

Finally arrived at the wicket, to stamp out.  I was refused.  Told to go to the "overstay wicket line", politely confirmed with the immigration officer that I still had 4-5 days remaining on my visa.  "You have to go to overstay line!" was the reply.  Waited in line, finally got my chance at the wicket.  Was told I had to go to the immigration office building a few kilometers away from the border control building.   Ok...so be it.

 

Got a tuk tuk from the entrance of the customs area, to the immigration building...200b.  No problem.

 

I was carrying a fresh new Canadian passport issued from the CDN consulate in Bangkok, and my old one, that had my last Thai entry stamp (valid, not an overstay), and several valid visas/wp from other countries.  I looked at the time: 09:15.  I waited in cue for my turn.  My passport(s) were shuffled around from IO to IO and the new passport stamped (2 pages) with a "confirmation of non-overstay" enabling me to receive an exit stamp.  100b please.  10:15am, in a tuk tuk, back to Thai border IO line.  3 pages wrecked out of a new passport, and I hadn't actually arrived in a different country... 

 

Arrived at Vientiane Thai consulate at 11:30+ (no taxi deals or haggling, asked who could get me there the fastest) to submit visa application, was number 769....(last of the day).

 

6 pages used (non overstay/good guy in stamps, Laos visa, new Thai visa, out/in/out/in stamps) in total for 1 visa run....

 

 

 

 

Sounds like a lot of people either don't know what to do or need something to help with lunch.

Visa or extension of stay by the way?

[CanuckThai]

8 hours ago, overherebc said:

Sounds like a lot of people either don't know what to do or need something to help with lunch.

Visa or extension of stay by the way?

New 90 day Non O...