stanleycoin Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 57 minutes ago, gr8fldanielle said: More fake news, This can't be Thailand, this sort of behaviour would never go on here. or be tolerated by the conscientious Police force of Thailand. This must be Cambodia or Lao !!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Now, how about addressing two other things: the villagers who burn trash every night that drifts into the house making a choking nuisance, and the Thais country-wide who set fire to Thailand every year from mid-February until the rains fall hard enough to curtail the burning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac98 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 5 hours ago, jaltsc said: "Second-hand smoke exposes Thais to health risks" It also exposes non Thais to heath risks too. As with most laws and regulations, the "Do Not Smoke" signs are ignored since the law is not enforced. When was the last, or for that matter, first time anyone has been fine 2000 baht for smoking in a restaurant or public venue? And those who choose not to smoke inside, usually sit themselves at the front entrance and smoke. Thus exposing everyone entering and leaving to their noxious second hand fumes. Don't expect anything to change. Since, in Thailand, just printing an article is considered equivalent to taking actions and solving problems. The front entrance is where they put the smoking section! I'm Japan, home to the world's longevity champion population, they post signs against smoking outside and advise you to enter a restaurant or bar to partake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 The population is already too large. Start giving out free krongthips and laukhao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 8 hours ago, Get Real said: And this is something they found out now? Like 30-40 year after the rest of the world. Anyway, it´s great news that they finally managed to see the connection. What makes you say that "they" just found out about this? Nowhere does it state that the author of the comments is claiming this to be a new discovery. These are just comments that he made ahead of a conference, do you think that the subject should never be mentioned again after the years-old confirmation was made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 6 hours ago, klauskunkel said: Will you look at that: second-hand-smoke concept has arrived in Thailand..., next they will claim they invented it. Will you look at that! Next you will claim that you can read and accurately interpret posted articles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 4 hours ago, seajae said: maybe if they enforced the no smoking rules in restaurants it would help, the amount of times I have had to stand up and and start to leave the restaurant when the idiots on the table next to us light up while we are eating is beyond a joke. The owners come running over and we tell them that unless the smokers put their cigarettes out or leave we will leave as well as its illegal for them to be smoking. There owners usually get upset but do tell the smokers to stop, we get dirty looks but I refuse to simply let it slide because just because they are inconsiderate ar*eholes. Why have laws if they are not going to enforce them, something Thailand is very good at as the police refuse to leave their offices Do what I used to do back in the UK, when someone smokes in a restaurant, wait till they start eating, then walk up to their table and start picking your nose in front of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peperobi Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 6 hours ago, gr8fldanielle said: the smoke from cooked meat is carcinogenic, why is that not addressed? Maybe the second hand smoke causing all these deaths is coming from grilling pigs and chickens. Wow, who is smoking there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 22 minutes ago, Just Weird said: What makes you say that "they" just found out about this? Nowhere does it state that the author of the comments is claiming this to be a new discovery. These are just comments that he made ahead of a conference, do you think that the subject should never be mentioned again after the years-old confirmation was made? No absolutely not. You are right! It´s really worth talking about, instead of acting on something they in that case already know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 So is the standard of driving on the roads. Probably it is a far greater health risk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommysboy Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 6 hours ago, rossd said: I am 72 years old and have been smoking for 56 years. I do not smoke in the house and I am very conscious of those around me when I eat out. Second hand smoke is not as dangerous as made out! The most accurate and latest longitudinal studies concluded point to passive smoking not causing lung cancer in the average household. It is an irritant though, and can cause allergies. I can't see there would nearly be enough nicotine in the room to cause the problems described. But following their logic, why on earth do they allow smoking, but ban e-cigarettes? Maybe their health officials could telephone Health England. But I suspect this is more to do with tax 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommysboy Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 6 hours ago, RichardColeman said: Waiting for some idiot to defend smoking next to my 2 year old in the restaurants here now. Nobody is going to do that, are they? When was the last time it happened..if ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, gandalf12 said: So is the standard of driving on the roads. Probably it is a far greater health risk Oh dear! You just made the spreading of second hand smoking look like nothing at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommysboy Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Get Real said: Oh dear! You just made the spreading of second hand smoking look like nothing at all. How do you figure that out? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, mommysboy said: How do you figure that out? Did you even bother to read what I quoted, and how I reacted on the comment i quoted. Maybe then you would understand that it was more like a joke. Relax, take a beer and look at life from the bright side. I mean, you can even take a cigarette if you feel like it. Edited May 22, 2018 by Get Real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommysboy Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 18 minutes ago, Get Real said: Did you even bother to read what I quoted, and how I reacted on the comment i quoted. Maybe then you would understand that it was more like a joke. Relax, take a beer and look at life from the bright side. I mean, you can even take a cigarette if you feel like it. Still, not much the wiser!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 54 minutes ago, mommysboy said: Still, not much the wiser!! That´s great, then that fit with approx. 75-85% of the earth population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Given that the various WHO study reports fail to differentiate the exposure effect in isolation from the general impact of total environmental airbourne pollutive factors and then contrived an exponential statistic this is just the continuation of a farce.Even to the point where it has been claimed second hand cigarette smoke is more dangerous than that inhaled by a smoker ! Smoking tobacco is negative to health in general terms! And regardless of "harm" smokers should be considerate of non smokers . And yes it is a factor in cardiovascular issues etc. But it is not the main factor. So if it could come to be that smoking tobacco was inhibited, illegalised, curtailed, whatever........the percentage of the population who even in the untainted future generation/s who suffer the illnesses currently mostly attributed to tobacco smoke will never decrease and are more likely to increase due to air pollution components already known to be of greater harm. And it is for that reason that although being claimed to be a social "menace" it is not made illegal but simply taxed to ludicrous levels way in excess of that applied to alcohol which has a much more identifiable negative impact across the social spectrum. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puwa Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 ThaiVisa, where even lung cancer has its defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) 21 hours ago, jaltsc said: "Second-hand smoke exposes Thais to health risks" It also exposes non Thais to heath risks too. As with most laws and regulations, the "Do Not Smoke" signs are ignored since the law is not enforced. When was the last, or for that matter, first time anyone has been fine 2000 baht for smoking in a restaurant or public venue? And those who choose not to smoke inside, usually sit themselves at the front entrance and smoke. Thus exposing everyone entering and leaving to their noxious second hand fumes. Don't expect anything to change. Since, in Thailand, just printing an article is considered equivalent to taking actions and solving problems. Nothing more obnoxious as people whinging about people smoking. In Bangkok the nagging is especially hilarious, as the air pollution most certainly is a much bigger health hazard than the 10 seconds you are exposed to our second hand fumes. walk faster and you could do it in three seconds.. Edited May 22, 2018 by sjaak327 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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