RTP: Start fining drunk drivers up to 200,000 baht!

 

 

An advisory committee of the Royal Thai Police said they will recommend that fines for drink driving be dramatically increased.

 

Pol Maj Gen Ekkarak Limsangkat said that the present rate of 10,000 baht and/or a year in jail is not enough of a deterrent.

 

He wants to see this increased to at least 100,000 baht and possibly even 200,000 baht in serious cases.

 

Increase in jail time is not on the table.

 

Courts can raise the fines in the case of repeat offences but the police want the power to issue far greater penalties to those who flout the law, even the first time. 

 

And Ekkarak also said that his committee would like to see fines that are commensurate with the level of alcohol in the blood punishing the most serious offenders the most. 

 

The committee that has members from the top echelons of the national police are going to make recommendations on a list of new measures designed to help improve the situation on the roads in the kingdom.

 

Thailand's road death statistics suggest it is the most dangerous place in the world to drive and many accidents are caused by drunk drivers. 

 

Source: https://www.dailynews.co.th/bangkok/645309

 

-- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2018-5-24

5 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

Increase in jail time is not on the table.

Why not ?

Surely that would be a far better deterrent, especially for the more affluent offenders, some of whom think they are above the law.

That will be the Falang price.

What will Somchai pay,  500 baht and a quick Wai 

maybe an increase,  to a double Wai. 

Edited May 24, 20188 yr by stanleycoin

Good if it eventuates !

7 minutes ago, Thaiwrath said:

Why not ?

Surely that would be a far better deterrent, especially for the more affluent offenders, some of whom think they are above the law.

But they all run away,  or try and  pay money under the table to get off lightly. 

 

 

Edited May 24, 20188 yr by stanleycoin

"He wants to see this increased to at least 100,000 baht and possibly even 200,000 baht in serious cases."

 

Sounds like an easy way for police to increase their bribes to 50,000 baht. That is, if it were a corrupt country, and not an honorable and honest nation like Thailand.

Edited May 24, 20188 yr by jaltsc

5 minutes ago, stanleycoin said:

That will be the Falang price.

What will Somchai pay,  500 baht and a quick Wai 

maybe a an increase,  to a double Wai. 

Agree

What happens when they just turn around & say have no money (like they do when in an accident )

 

4 minutes ago, BEVUP said:

Agree

What happens when they just turn around & say have no money (like they do when in an accident )

 

Maybe a treble Wai,  plus a silly grin.

They just run away and pretend it never happened. 

 

It's all Bs anyway,  they need to have an attitude adjustment to driving and riding on the roads here, and stop hiding behind the drunk driving Flag.

 

 

 

Edited May 24, 20188 yr by stanleycoin

What is the legal limit ?

 

44 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

Increase in jail time is not on the table

Should be the only thing on the table, 90% of those pulled in can't afford the current fine, let alone an increase.

Now the going rate is 10,000 - 20,000 THB over the counter without any receipt for white foreigners. So this is just to increase to 30,000 - 50,000 THB. The reality: This makes a lot of sense, because cmon, face it, the pain for such a thing has a higher price tag than 10k.

 

And to the big mouths saying Thais pay a lot less: A lot of Thais going to a holding cell for some days to face the court and in the western societies these holding cells are a violation of human rights. So, if you are keen, just drink and drive, don't pay the otc rate and they will surely take you to one of these.

45 minutes ago, BEVUP said:

Agree

What happens when they just turn around & say have no money (like they do when in an accident )

 

They get locked up. 

46 minutes ago, jaltsc said:

"He wants to see this increased to at least 100,000 baht and possibly even 200,000 baht in serious cases."

 

Sounds like an easy way for police to increase their bribes to 50,000 baht. That is, if it were a corrupt country, and not an honorable and honest nation like Thailand.

You are absolutely correct. From first hand experience, the current going rate is about 15k. If this talk reaches the finest of the bunch in Pattaya, BKK and Phuket, there will be surely a lot more topics like "got busted for drunk driving and could not pay 50k and now being hold in a cell (but they did not take my mobile phone)" at TV.

confiscate and crush their vehicles while they watch, and hope they still have to keep making payments on them.

 

1 hour ago, stanleycoin said:

That will be the Falang price.

What will Somchai pay,  500 baht and a quick Wai 

maybe an increase,  to a double Wai. 

1,000 Baht and a double Wai on the wocks.

 

The truth about this, as we all know, is that certain people will never be asked to blow into that little machine. Only some will be caught and fined, the off-duty uniforms, the sons of wealthy parents and those parents themselves will just be waved on. These things die hard.

The big wigs don’t drive themselves. Increasing fines is not the answer. 

34 minutes ago, sn1per said:

What is the legal limit ?

 

upto and including just prior to passing out.

I suspect Thai jail are quite full and they don't want to feed these people. so its a standard 500baht for easy calculation.

2 minutes ago, Lungstib said:

The truth about this, as we all know, is that certain people will never be asked to blow into that little machine. Only some will be caught and fined, the off-duty uniforms, the sons of wealthy parents and those parents themselves will just be waved on. These things die hard.

yes unfortunately, the one who will be in the position of having to pay will be the ones least able to afford pay - while the others will just continue on merrily as if nothing has change (hasn't for them)

13 minutes ago, surangw said:

confiscate and crush their vehicles while they watch, and hope they still have to keep making payments on them.

 

If they claim they cant afford the fine then that is the answer.

1 hour ago, snoop1130 said:

Courts can raise the fines in the case of repeat offences but the police want the power to issue far greater penalties to those who flout the law, even the first time.

There is something rotten here!

Make it a gazillion dollars - who gives a shit. It won't be enforced.

 

Remember the police captain a few years back who got asked to do a breathalyser test: he refused... the cop requesting the test was reprimanded, and the head of the police sent a memo that all cops memorise the number plates of senior officers so as not to pull them over. Nobody gave a shit that the "law" was refusing a breathalyser test is an admission of guilt.

We had a great team on paper but unfortunately the other side turned up is the right metaphor here I suspect.

Please help me, I have been caught drunk driving while on holiday in Thailand...can someone please set up a ‘ go fund me ‘ page

5 hours ago, SABloke said:

Make it a gazillion dollars - who gives a shit. It won't be enforced.

 

Remember the police captain a few years back who got asked to do a breathalyser test: he refused... the cop requesting the test was reprimanded, and the head of the police sent a memo that all cops memorise the number plates of senior officers so as not to pull them over. Nobody gave a shit that the "law" was refusing a breathalyser test is an admission of guilt.

 

You do not understand how law is applied there.

1 year is already enough, more important is to deal with red light offenders

A good Thai salary is 200k in a whole year so how he thinks they can fine the locals this much is a mystery.  Of course it will never happen , just another brainless idea. Prison is a good idea, but there's not enough room inside for 10 million drunk idiots. 

  

Another method of raising black money for the RTP.....

Most average Thais simply cannot afford such high fines, no matter the reason for such fines. 

But an under the table payment, less than the high fine cost, for forgetting an offence, would appeal to many. 

11 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

Why not ?

Surely that would be a far better deterrent, especially for the more affluent offenders, some of whom think they are above the law.

just another cash cow, i like to see the local Thai man get nicked 1 or 200,000 for DD take him the rest of his life to pay that sort of fine. this is surely directed at farangs only.