Thai Govt aims to improve drainage across country

[webfact]

Govt aims to improve drainage across country

 

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BANGKOK, 4 June 2018 (NNT) - The Department of Public Works and Town & Country Planning has signed an MoU with the Office of Natural Resources and Environmental Policy and Planning, to support the planning and development of land in preparation for climate change. 

The MoU is using Trang province as a model city in the Andaman coastal region for drainage planning with the goal being to develop drainage in all areas across the country in 3-5 years. The MoU is expected to predict water flow after rain falls. 

The Office of Natural Resources and Environmental Policy and Planning is drafting a plan for the country’s preparations for climate change. The plan will be used by relevant units to properly plan their drainage and flood prevention operations. 

Director of the Department of Public Works and Town & Country Planning, Monthon Sutprasert spoke about the progress of flood drainage in 25 river basins nationwide. He said the department has started to plan drainage in river basins from Phetchaburi to Narathiwat. Information gained during the drainage planning process will benefit flood prevention in the 25 river basins.

 

-- nnt 2018-06-04

[cornishcarlos]

The government seems quite capable of draining state funds !!

Draining is one thing they seem to know about ?

[colinneil]

Sign all the MOUs you want, it means nothing. 

Nothing will change, still have those responsible dipping into the funds.

[Lungstib]

Landfill, thousands of cubic meters of it, unplanned construction of housing and factories and the filling in of original streams and drains has become a way of life here. Major highways have been lifted 1m to bypass the need for proper drainage and now act as low dams. Forests have been cut and corn planted to ensure that heavy rains now run directly off the hills carrying the topsoil with it. And all this is going to change because of the signing of one MoU? It will take a wholesale change of thinking by thousands of commercial companies to effect any proper and lasting change.

[Cadbury]

49 minutes ago, webfact said:

".......to develop drainage in all areas across the country in 3-5 years".

Well they don't have to worry about Bangkok, that must be just about completed by now. The PM, with his acute foresight and planning skills, has been onto this problem for some time.  

The headline story in June two years ago confirms his intention then to fix Bangkok of it's drainage problem so it should be expected that by now it is well on the way to being accomplished. 

Or was it just another broken promise on top of all the others?

22/6/2016 - PM vows to overhaul drainage system of capital

 

 

[mikebell]

They've just finished putting drains in alongside my mooban in Bang Saray.  It took seven months forcing long detours and ruining the grass verges along our perimeter wall.  The first rains caused an erosion of sand making the surface dangerous for motorbikes and a flood at the junction with Sukhumvit.  Still someone in power must have thought it was worth it!

[cornishcarlos]

When we developed our plot next to the main road, I was told that we needed to put 1m diameter drain all the way along the front.

I questioned this and was told if we don't, in the future we might get told to dig it all up and put them in.

So we have 1m diameter drains running along the front of the property. There's no real way for the water to get into the drains and the next plot along doesn't have them, so no way for the water to get out... A complete waste of time and money ?

[SmartyMarty]

Move to the mountainous north, don't build near rivers, enjoy the view.

[hansnl]

4 hours ago, cornishcarlos said:

The government seems quite capable of draining state funds !!

Draining is one thing they seem to know about ?

All governments, all over the world, are artists in draining your tax money into necessary or sometimes unnecessary projects.

Of course there are also governments that are artists in draining your tax money into their own pockets and friends' pockets.

Maybe you remember?

[cornishcarlos]

4 minutes ago, hansnl said:

All governments, all over the world, are artists in draining your tax money into necessary or sometimes unnecessary projects.

Of course there are also governments that are artists in draining your tax money into their own pockets and friends' pockets.

Maybe you remember?

 

Lovely but this is an article about Thailand...

[seajae]

normally in the west when roads are built they put in proper drainage(under council authority) but not here, they leave open dirt channels that the locals back fill so they have more land area to use, they dont put in drain pipes under it so the water can still run as that is an extra cost so when it rains hard the channels fill then flood because they cannot drain. There appears to be no organization of how drainage is meant to work as there appears to be no managing body to organize it, when new houses are built the drains are put in by each village builder as cheaply as possible with no regard as to how they will work. Where we live we can hear the underground concrete drain running along inside our fence line emptying into the vacant land behind us for a few days after the rain stops, we have had to have all the back of the house reinforced as it was washing out some of the fill. The village builder(local high so) refused to accept any fault, we are starting to wonder what will happen when they build behind us on the vacant land as the drains simply  stick out from under the fence, if they back fill the land to get it level to ours the pipes will be covered in unless they put in drainage. Some professional help making those building these villages follow a correct drainage plan would help immensely but as we all know that would never happen here,  would require some one with knowledge and common sense.

[Estrada]

The Government have already completed 6 "Giant" drainage tunnels in Bangkok and another 5 are under construction, mostly varying between 5 and 5.7Metres in diameter. However, they all discharge into the Chaophraya River via lift stations, whereas they should discharge into the sea. Details of routes for those of us in Bangkok, can be found on Google maps. The map below shows the Giant drainage tunnel from behind Seacon Square where I live. The TBM shaft can be seen half way down Sukhumvit 101/1.

Edited June 4, 2018 by Estrada

[Media1]

Pre election lies

[The Teacher]

5 hours ago, Cadbury said:

Well they don't have to worry about Bangkok, that must be just about completed by now. The PM, with his acute foresight and planning skills, has been onto this problem for some time.  

The headline story in June two years ago confirms his intention then to fix Bangkok of it's drainage problem so it should be expected that by now it is well on the way to being accomplished. 

Or was it just another broken promise on top of all the others?

22/6/2016 - PM vows to overhaul drainage system of capital

 

 

Another unreachable target set out by a leader who not idea on how to do up shoelaces. So same-same 

[KiwiKiwi]

Why stop at Thailand, why not SE Asia as a whole? or the world? This govt does grandiose so well, why limit themselves? Expect a news conference shortly.

 

Interesting thay announce they have 'started planning'.

 

AND...

 

Someone just heard about climate change. A day late and a dollar short. As always.

 

 

[KiwiKiwi]

2 hours ago, Estrada said:

The Government have already completed 6 "Giant" drainage tunnels in Bangkok and another 5 are under construction, mostly varying between 5 and 5.7Metres in diameter. However, they all discharge into the Chaophraya River via lift stations, whereas they should discharge into the sea. Details of routes for those of us in Bangkok, can be found on Google maps. The map below shows the Giant drainage tunnel from behind Seacon Square where I live. The TBM shaft can be seen half way down Sukhumvit 101/1.

 

 

Yes. The problem is that with the sea level rising, and given that water flows downhill (really? yes - really, even in Thailand), the water will not exit the drainage tunnels unless they empty into the Chao Praya basin, and only then if they keep the river water level down. How they do that and what they do then is unknown, because rivers also flow downhill.

 

I did hear about plans to build a sodding great wall, but that went awfully quiet about the same time some lunatic announced the water level offshore of BKK would not rise. Obviously not started yet, someone would have noticed. Perhaps they're counting on the monks to work a little bit of folk magic...? "Oh great spirits of water, please do not flood Bangkok, My Prayuth says...". Or is that the unannounced role of the new submarines perhaps? A Samut Prakhan to Pattaya shuttle service perhaps?

 

[Jimbo2014]

This has certainly been a goal for some time... like about 50 years.  

[Cake Monster]

Every time it rains in my Village,the water runs off the surrounding hillsides and completely fills the drainage channels on the side of the roads.

The local Authority employ people to clear these out - over and over and over.

Sometimes they get lucky and some Somchai turns up in a truck with his 3 or 4 mates and they shovel out the sand into the truck to flog it off to the local builders for about 700 Baht a cube.

 

[jak2002003]

The government 'aim' to do a lot of things...…….. 

 

My village had great drainage.  Only flooded once about 50 years ago so I was told when the dam overflowed.  

 

But then the idea came to convert the mud ditches into concrete steep sided drains.  Then these drains were covered over... and the remaining ditches had concrete tubes put in them.  Only a few gates to let water out into the rice fields.  The farmers and land owners could no longer make holes in the side, block other holes up, dig new drains... and control the water.  The concrete drains eventually get  covered up and concreted over as rice fields were slowly filled in and more and more houses were build, but no consideration for drainage from the new housing estates, concrete driveways and walled in gardens, new roads etc. 

 

So no the old mud drains which are now concrete rings and covered up are mostly blocked up with junk and no way to get into them... and the heavy rain now fills the roads and makes huge lakes in street... with the concrete walls and buildings preventing it from draining away!

 

No planning at all.  

 

 

[toofarnorth]

Gov't aims to improve drainage .    Am I still on the wine topic ?

[sawadeeken]

16 hours ago, Cadbury said:

Well they don't have to worry about Bangkok, that must be just about completed by now. The PM, with his acute foresight and planning skills, has been onto this problem for some time.  

The headline story in June two years ago confirms his intention then to fix Bangkok of it's drainage problem so it should be expected that by now it is well on the way to being accomplished. 

Or was it just another broken promise on top of all the others?

22/6/2016 - PM vows to overhaul drainage system of capital

 

 

SSSSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOO......... He is admitting that he still 'plans' to be 'in power' in 3 or 4 years..............

MORE BS to try to win an 'Official Vote................ LOL.................

[sawadeeken]

9 hours ago, KiwiKiwi said:

 

 

Yes. The problem is that with the sea level rising, and given that water flows downhill (really? yes - really, even in Thailand), the water will not exit the drainage tunnels unless they empty into the Chao Praya basin, and only then if they keep the river water level down. How they do that and what they do then is unknown, because rivers also flow downhill.

 

I did hear about plans to build a sodding great wall, but that went awfully quiet about the same time some lunatic announced the water level offshore of BKK would not rise. Obviously not started yet, someone would have noticed. Perhaps they're counting on the monks to work a little bit of folk magic...? "Oh great spirits of water, please do not flood Bangkok, My Prayuth says...". Or is that the unannounced role of the new submarines perhaps? A Samut Prakhan to Pattaya shuttle service perhaps?

 

  And considering all this comes to be real........ It will certainly feed the fish with even more 'Plastic Bags'...... LOL ....

(And I'm hoping that those submarines all have been fitted with 'Plastic Bag Filters' as well)

[rosst]

23 hours ago, Lungstib said:

Landfill, thousands of cubic meters of it, unplanned construction of housing and factories and the filling in of original streams and drains has become a way of life here. Major highways have been lifted 1m to bypass the need for proper drainage and now act as low dams. Forests have been cut and corn planted to ensure that heavy rains now run directly off the hills carrying the topsoil with it. And all this is going to change because of the signing of one MoU? It will take a wholesale change of thinking by thousands of commercial companies to effect any proper and lasting change.

Bang on the money, all of the above and morons in charge of the dams