Qantas 747 "crash" at Don Muang in 1999 video simulation

[Chivas]

Recreated with the errors from the Pilots, ATC and the general lack of clear communication that ends with the Jumbo on the golf course.

Plane was eventually put back into service after extensive damage

Qantas' most significant incident but no loss of life

 

(You may need to click out an advert that interrupted me at the 10 minute mark)

 

 

[55Jay]

They screwed the pooch on that one.

 

 And?

[KhunBENQ]

13 hours ago, Chivas said:

general lack of clear communication

As often in such accidents.

"Lucky" in this case.

The mother of bad communication cost 583 lives (1977, Los Rodeos, PanAm 747 vs. KLM 747).

 

Edited June 8, 2018 by KhunBENQ

[Chivas]

48 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

As often in such accidents.

"Lucky" in this case.

The mother of bad communication cost 583 lives (1977, Los Rodeos, PanAm 747 vs. KLM 747).

 

Certainly was no question.  For me on this particular incident its the 2nd officer keeping quiet about the ever increasing rain because the captain and 1st officer had had an earlier conversation about the same subject

Words were left unspoken and the end result we know

[KhunBENQ]

I was stunned to read that they did a 100 million Dollar (!) repair just to avoid a hull loss in their records.

Did passengers in later years know what plane they were flying on

[reargunnerph3]

Qantas changed the standard policy on the advice of bean counters to land with flaps set at 25 degrees instead of 30 degrees, this saves fuel and no reverse thrust as it's cheaper to replace brakes than worn engines. So the landing speed was higher than it used to be. I flew for 30 years for Qantas and flew on VH-OJH "The Golf Buggy" plenty of times and it was safe to fly on because most of it was new. Flying is still the safest way to travel.

[The Fat Controller]

I read the full report years ago, they sent the data to Boeing and they replied "yep, using that speed and configuration you're going off the end with what you did"

Also flew on it from Heathrow (BA codeshare) cheekily looked for wrinkles which amused the CSD, he told me not to mention the golf course !

[stevo2207]

One of the pilots of that flight came to my place once for dinner I remember joking with him asking if he had any trouble pulling up in the driveway in the car LOL.One good thing they were off work for a long time on full pay while they investigated it.

[Oztruckie]

There's a good book titled, The People Who Killed Qantas, or something like that, it's all about this type of stuff, and includes the story about the 747 that run off the runway at Changi many years ago, good read. 

[bra]

Here is the full ATSB report for those interested:

https://www.atsb.gov.au/media/24447/aair199904538_001.pdf

[The Theory]

They should put the pilots on Baht cars for more practice and communications.

[Chivas]

The actual Qantas 747 "Longreach" was the aircraft in the accident featured in the BBC show Airport in the 1990's on multiple occasions

Edited June 9, 2018 by Chivas

[thaiowl]

Remember the incident well. The joke at the time that one of the fairways at the nearby airport golf course was renamed "The Qantas Approach".

[shaunoro]

Indeed. Played golf a few times at Thai RAF golf course between the runways.

All rather surreal playing between the runways.

Qantas Longreach became an immovable obstruction, so a free drop was allowed.