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Trump says Russia should be at G7 meeting, Moscow not so sure

By James Oliphant

 

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U.S. President Donald Trump arrives for the official welcoming ceremony the G7 Summit in the Charlevoix town of La Malbaie, Quebec, Canada, June 8, 2018. REUTERS/Christinne Muschi

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Russia should be attending a Group of Seven summit in Canada, U.S. President Donald Trump said on Friday, a controversial idea that even Moscow seemed to reject, as he headed for a chilly reception at the meeting where other leaders are set to clash with him over trade.

 

Russia was expelled from what was then called the G8 in 2014 because of its annexation of Crimea from Ukraine. Trump's suggestion of readmitting Russia was unlikely to gain any traction at the gathering of the group that includes the United States, Canada, Japan, Britain, Italy, France and Germany.

 

"You know, whether you like it or not, and it may not be politically correct, but we have a world to run and the G7, which used to be the G8, they threw Russia out, they can let Russia come back in, because we should have Russia at the negotiating table," Trump told reporters before leaving Washington.

 

A senior British government source said Russia needs to change its approach before any conversation about it rejoining the G7 can begin.

 

A French presidential source said Trump's proposal did not seem "coherent" in view of the latest economic sanctions imposed by the United States on Moscow.

 

The Russian government also appeared to snub Trump's idea.

 

"Russia is focussed on other formats, apart from the G7," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said in a brief statement reported by the government-controlled Sputnik news agency.

 

However, new Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte threw his weight behind Trump's call for Russia to be included, saying on Twitter it would be "in the interests of everyone."

 

Trump was heading into a bigger controversy over trade as other G7 leaders, including host Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, have been angered by Washington's imposition of tariffs on steel and aluminium imported from allies including Canada and the European Union.

 

At least three of Trump's fellow Republicans in the U.S. Senate, all frequent critics of the president, assailed his suggestion of readmitting Russia to the group.

 

"This is weak," Senator Ben Sasse said. "Putin is not our friend and he is not the president's buddy. He is a thug using Soviet-style aggression to wage a shadow war against America, and our leaders should act like it."

 

Trump's presidency has been clouded by a federal investigation into Russian meddling into the 2016 U.S. election and possible coordination by people in Trump's campaign. Both Moscow and Trump have denied any such activity.

 

Senators Jeff Flake and John McCain, one of the Kremlin's fiercest critics, also denounced the idea.

 

"Vladimir Putin chose to make Russia unworthy of membership in the G8 by invading Ukraine and annexing Crimea. Nothing he has done since then has changed that most obvious fact," McCain said.

 

Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer criticized the Republican president's leadership.

 

"We need the president to be able to distinguish between our allies and adversaries, and to treat each accordingly," he said in a statement.

 

Trump has periodically called for closer ties with Russia, although his administration's policy has included strong sanctions against Moscow.

 

 
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Seeing that the Russian economy is smaller than the Australian one there can be little need to have such a minor country represented on the G?. In fact the sooner they get rid of the US the better the G6 will be. Who needs Trump in the tent kicking over the furniture like the wayward child that he is!

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9 minutes ago, brommers said:

Seeing that the Russian economy is smaller than the Australian one there can be little need to have such a minor country represented on the G?. In fact the sooner they get rid of the US the better the G6 will be. Who needs Trump in the tent kicking over the furniture like the wayward child that he is!

"the Russian economy is smaller than the Australian one"   No, it isn't:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

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3 hours ago, brommers said:

Seeing that the Russian economy is smaller than the Australian one there can be little need to have such a minor country represented on the G?. In fact the sooner they get rid of the US the better the G6 will be. Who needs Trump in the tent kicking over the furniture like the wayward child that he is!

How about we dont get rid of the US but get rid of Trump

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5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Which mentor?

The departed notorious villain Roy Cohn? 

White nationalist Steve Bannon?

I was thinking about the murdering dictator Putin, the one that the man-child seems to get along so fabulously with.

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23 minutes ago, sirineou said:

How about we dont get rid of the US but get rid of Trump

I agree, but therefore it's time for the people of the US to make that decision before a once great nation is tarred with the same brush as the most toxic head of state on the planet.

 

I think the other nations should kick the US out for now and form the G6 and then Trump can go and have his G2 with Putin (or maybe he can have the G3 with their lovechild Kim Jong). What Trump seems to have forgotten (Or probably does not even know) is that Russia were kicked out of the G6 for invading sovereign territory and annexing Crimea. That situation is not resolved, so why should Russia be forgiven and allowed back at the table? Putin has dirt on Trump. Trump and all his enablers will turn out to be traitors. The US - a country with 35 million suckers.

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Me think Trump is thinking include Russia and and everyone will gang up on Putin...

 

So if Russia joins the table would it be a G8 summit???

 

But there again would it be?

 

Some are already referring to this as a G6+1,  include Russia would it be G6+2         ...or G6+1+1

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Me think Trump is thinking include Russia and and everyone will gang up on Putin...
 
So if Russia joins the table would it be a G8 summit???
 
But there again would it be?
 
Some are already referring to this as a G6+1,  include Russia would it be G6+2         ...or G6+1+1
What are you on about? It was just a troll suggestion. "trump" is not the dictator of the G7.

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12 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

What are you on about? It was just a troll suggestion. "trump" is not the dictator of the G7.

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I'm guessing that Trump thinks that his boss would stand up for him when the clever people criticise him, Unlike Trump, at least Putin would fare well if it came down to a fist fight.  Trump would struggle, with his bone spurs.

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He's completely compromised by Putin. It's a shame that he has stuck heavy tariffs on America's top allies, while at the same time spending months resisting the congressionally approved sanctions on Russia... And then quickly backtracking on China after they scratched his back. Trump has heaped more praise on the Dutertes, Kims, Erdogans, and Putins of the world than he has on America's allies. Yet curiously his base doesn't seem bothered.

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Right or wrong, readmitting russia could well have been brought up with the adults, around the table, for discussion and debate.

 

gobbing off before the summit, is another example of trumps lack of everything... especially international politicking.

 

and to rub manure in his own face, he is forgetting that he, as potus, is one of the key players / countries to have expelled Russia, or is capable of readmitting them, whilst blaming his allies, as if the US has no say.

 

Anyway.... he’s nuked the G7 meeting.... now hes off to try and humiliate  Kim.... a traveling circus Barnum would have been proud to promote

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Russia was kicked out of the G8 which became the G7 because of its behaviour towards other countries, has such behaviour improved or should it  be reinstated simply because Trump would like it?

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6 hours ago, StreetCowboy said:

I’m slightly surprised at the monkey saying the organ grinder should be there

 

Actually, the term "organ grinder" would apply more to Trump than to Putin.

 

FWIW, it was Aneurin Bevan who, while attacking the Chancellor of the Exchequer in the House of Commons, saw the Prime Minister [Macmillan] shuffle into the  chamber, and suddenly switched in mid-attack to say, "But why attack the monkey, when the organ grinder's here".

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So how does Kim Jong trust anything Trump or the US have to say, when Trump agrees to ratify a joint statement from the G7 and then backs out after he leaves. The guy is a grade A lying conman SOB (Presidentially used term). Accusing Trudeau of false statements is rich coming from Trump.

 

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Trump backs out of joint G7 communique after accusing 'meek and mild' Trudeau of 'false statements'

I wish May and Merkle would grow a pair and tell Trump to frakk off.

 

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Trump tweeted "Based on Justin's false statements at his news conference, and the fact that Canada is charging massive tariffs to our US farmers, workers and companies, I have instructed our US reps not to endorse the communique as we look at tariffs on automobiles flooding the US market!"

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/g7-trump-trade-communique-summit-tariffs-us-eu-climate-change-may-macron-a8391601.html

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17 minutes ago, Andaman Al said:

So how does Kim Jong trust anything Trump or the US have to say

By offering him a personal inducement locking him in to a deal which benefits him personally.

 

This is one of many of the nightmare scenarios that lifelong diplomats fear with regard to the meeting (which may never take place). There is no agenda, there has been nothing in the way of preparatory work, preparatory frameworks, verification mechanisms or broad outlines of potential agreements.

 

The possibility that Trump gives up American interests for personal interests are very real in this very odd meeting.

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On 6/9/2018 at 5:45 PM, Andaman Al said:

What Trump seems to have forgotten (Or probably does not even know) is that Russia were kicked out of the G6 for invading sovereign territory and annexing Crimea.

Trump likely doesn't care whether he knows or not.

Trump knows only what is needed to serve his base:

"Putin says RUSSIA is happy to host next G7 summit despite being kicked out."

“Please, we will be glad to see everyone here in Moscow.”

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/972155/putin-russia-g7-summit-donald-trump-usa

Maybe Snowden could serve as Trump's Russian translator after a presidential pardon.

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