Trump and North Korea's Kim in Singapore for historic Tuesday summit

[webfact]

Trump and North Korea's Kim in Singapore for historic Tuesday summit

By Steve Holland and Jack Kim

 

North Korean leader Kim Jong Un arrives in Singapore, June 10, 2018 in this picture obtained from social media. SINGAPORE'S MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS AND INFORMATION/via REUTERS

 

SINGAPORE (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump arrived in Singapore on Sunday for a historic summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un that could lay the groundwork for ending a nuclear stand-off between the old foes and the transformation of the isolated Asian nation.

 

Trump flew into Singapore's Paya Lebar Air Base aboard Air Force One, looking to strike a deal that will lead to the denuclearisation of one of America's bitterest foes. He came from a divisive G7 meeting in Canada with some of Washington's closest allies that further strained global trade ties.

 

After stepping down from Air Force One on a steamy tropical night, Trump was greeted by Singapore Foreign Minister Vivian Balakrishnan.

 

Asked by a reporter how he felt about the summit, Trump said: "Very good".

 

North Korea's Kim landed in Singapore earlier on Sunday.

 

When Trump and Kim meet on Tuesday at Sentosa, a resort island off Singapore's port with a Universal Studios theme park and man-made beaches, they will be making history.

 

Enemies since the 1950-53 Korean War, leaders of North Korea and the United States have never met previously - or even spoken on the telephone.

 

Kim arrived at Singapore's Changi Airport after his longest trip overseas as head of state, wearing his trademark dark "Mao suit" and distinctive high-cut hairstyle. He has not left his country since taking office in 2011 other than to visit China and the South Korean side of the border Demilitarised Zone.

 

Arriving on a plane loaned by China, which for decades has been North Korea's only major ally, Kim was also greeted by Balakrishnan.

Travelling with him were top officials including Foreign Minister Ri Yong Ho and Kim Yong Chol, a close aide of Kim who has been instrumental in the diplomacy that culminated in Tuesday's summit.

 

Kim Yo Jong, leader Kim's younger sister, was also spotted in his delegation. She emerged as an influential figure in Pyongyang's opaque leadership in February, when she led a North Korean delegation to the Winter Olympics in South Korea.

 

Officials who arrived with Trump include Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, National Security Adviser John Bolton, White House Chief of Staff John Kelly and White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders.

 

Bolton’s hardline rhetoric last month infuriated North Korea and nearly derailed the summit. He called for North Korea to follow a "Libya model" in negotiations. Libya unilaterally surrendered its nuclear weapons programme in 2003, but its leader, Muammar Gaddafi, was killed in 2011 by NATO-backed rebels.

 

'SPUR OF THE MOMENT'

Trump, speaking in Canada on Saturday, said any agreement at the summit would be "spur of the moment," underscoring the uncertain outcome of what he called a "mission of peace".

 

He initially touted the potential for a grand bargain with North Korea to rid itself of a nuclear missile programme that has advanced rapidly to threaten the United States.

 

But he has since lowered expectations, backing away from an original demand for North Korea's swift denuclearisation.

 

He has said the talks would be more about starting a relationship with Kim for a negotiating process that would take more than one summit.

 

On Monday, North Korean state media said Kim and Trump would discuss a "permanent and durable peace-keeping mechanism" on the Korean peninsula, denuclearisation of the peninsula and other issues of mutual concern.

 

Kim was accompanied by his defence minister, No Kwang Chol, the North's KCNA added.

 

Non-proliferation expert Daryl Kimball, director of the Arms Control Association, said that to make the summit a success, Trump and Kim would need to agree on a framework for expert-level negotiations "to hammer out the details and time frame for specific action-for-action steps".

 

"As the leaders arrive in Singapore it is still not clear yet whether Trump and Kim are on the same page about the end goals, the pace, and the sequencing of the many steps involved in the complete 'denuclearisation' of the Korean peninsula," he said in a Twitter message.

 

White House spokeswoman Sarah Sanders said U.S. and North Korean officials would hold working-level talks on Monday. She said the U.S. delegation would be led by Sung Kim, a veteran diplomat who recently held talks with North Korean officials.

 

A U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Monday's meeting appeared aimed at making 11th-hour progress ahead of the summit since Sung Kim's earlier talks did little to narrow a gap between the two sides on the definition of denuclearisation or win agreement on tangible commitments from Pyongyang towards dismantling its nuclear arsenal.

 

WARNED OFF

Kim met Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong shortly after his arrival, driving from the St. Regis Hotel where he is staying, through the famous Orchard Road shopping district, which was closed off for his tightly guarded motorcade.

 

Bodyguards in dark suits jogged alongside his limousine.

 

At the hotel lobby, grim-faced North Korean security guards warned other hotel guests not to take pictures as Kim walked to his Mercedes Benz limousine.

 

When a couple of guests took a picture, a North Korean official stormed up to them, demanding to check their phones.

 

"I saw them taking a photo of our chairman. How dare they do so, they shouldn't," the official told Reuters later. He declined to be identified. Under the watchful eye of the official, and St. Regis staff, one male guest deleted his photos.

 

In his first public comments since arriving, Kim said Singapore's role would be recorded in history if the summit was a success.

Trump, who is staying in a separate hotel, the Shangri-La, is due to meet Lee on Monday.

 

North Korea spent decades developing nuclear weapons, culminating in the test of a thermonuclear device in 2017. It also successfully tested missiles that can reach the U.S. mainland.

 

The tests came amid a campaign of "maximum pressure" on North Korea, led by the United States, that tightened economic sanctions and the possibility of military action.

 

The two leaders exchanged insults as fears of war grew.

 

But then in a New Year's address, Kim sounded a conciliatory note, saying his country had completed development of its nuclear programme and would focus on economic development.

 

He also suggested a meeting with South Korea.

 

After a flurry of contacts between the two Koreas, South Korean officials suggested to Trump in March that Kim would be willing to meet face-to-face and the U.S. president agreed.

 

Many experts on North Korea, one of the most insular and unpredictable countries in the world, remain sceptical Kim will ever completely abandon its cherished nuclear weapons. They believe Kim's latest engagement is aimed at getting the United States to ease the crippling sanctions that have squeezed the impoverished country.

 

Believed to be 34, Kim is one of the youngest heads of state in the world and looks an unlikely candidate to be making history of the kind that has eluded his father and grandfather, both past leaders of North Korea.

 

But since taking power after his father's death, the youthful Kim has displayed a mixture of ruthlessness, pragmatism and statecraft to get this prize: to sit across the table with the leader of the United States and be treated as an equal.

 

For Trump, a successful summit will give him a win on the international stage.

 

While foreign policy isn't usually a major aspect of congressional elections, it is unclear if Trump’s focus on getting tough with trade partners and solving the North Korean nuclear issue will have some influence on voters in the mid-term polls in November.

 

The two leaders meet at 9 a.m. (0100 GMT) on Tuesday at the Capella on Sentosa island, a refurbished British Army artillery mess that is one of Singapore's most expensive hotels.

 

(Additional reporting by Dewey Sim, Aradhana Aravindan, Joyce Lee and Grace Lee, Soyoung Kim, Matt Spetalnick, David Brunnstrom and Christine Kim in SEOUL; Editing by Robert Birsel and Clarence Fernandez)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-06-11

 

[klauskunkel]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

a North Korean official stormed up to them, demanding to check their phones.

"I saw them taking a photo of our chairman. How dare they do so, they shouldn't," the official told Reuters later. He declined to be identified. Under the watchful eye of the official, and St. Regis staff, one male guest deleted his photos.

... and then he nonchalantly recovered the deleted photos using a recovery app... up yours "storming NK official"

[rudi49jr]

21 minutes ago, klauskunkel said:

... and then he nonchalantly recovered the deleted photos using a recovery app... up yours "storming NK official"

That's beside the point. Don said he would be able to determine if Kim was being serious within one minute. "It's what I do", is what he said. Hope Airforce one is ready to take off, because this is probably going to be the shortest summit ever. Thank you, you stable genius!!

[anon4637435435]

Schools keep cutting my sons hair like this douche. Is that the image thailand wants for its youth? 

[Guitar God]

Sean Hannity said that President Barack Obama’s "willingness to meet with North Korea is one of the most disturbing displays of Obama’s lack of foreign policy experience."

 

But  in 2018, Hannity said President Donald Trump’s "willingness to meet with North Korea is a huge foreign policy win."

 

Obama was called a traitor for legitimizing a dictatorship whose goal since the Clinton era was to be recognized as an equal to the US. Now they’ve finished their nuclear program and they're ready to talk. 

 

But, when this egomaniacal, hypocritical clot of congealed creamsicle spray-tan goo does it, he's some sort of hero?

 

What’s he going to do, shake his hand aggressively? 

 

 

[Cadbury]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Trump was greeted by Singapore Foreign Minister Vivian Balakrishnan......Kim was also greeted by Balakrishnan

Toad Boy must be green with envy seeing as he fancied himself as being the great peacemaking diplomat to welcome both leaders to Thailand. What an opportunity missed to show himself off in his traditional Thai fancy dress costume on the world stage.

[cycolista]

25 minutes ago, Guitar God said:

Sean Hannity said that President Barack Obama’s "willingness to meet with North Korea is one of the most disturbing displays of Obama’s lack of foreign policy experience."

 

But  in 2018, Hannity said President Donald Trump’s "willingness to meet with North Korea is a huge foreign policy win."

 

Obama was called a traitor for legitimizing a dictatorship whose goal since the Clinton era was to be recognized as an equal to the US. Now they’ve finished their nuclear program and they're ready to talk. 

 

But, when this egomaniacal, hypocritical clot of congealed creamsicle spray-tan goo does it, he's some sort of hero?

 

What’s he going to do, shake his hand aggressively? 

 

 

So are you suggesting that Hannity and other Fox news blow hards might be hypocrites?  I'm shocked.  

[lionsincity]

kim with nukes meeting trump the unstable, unpredictable buffoon with even more nukes.........what can go wrong.

[Telly]

<deleted> waste of money and time. 

Any other country you all will be flipping over at the use of 20 MIL of the peoples money 

[fvw53]

After meeting French president Macron in France last year, Trump went home green of jealousy and wanted also for himself a military parade like the one in France on 14th of July

One outcome of the Trump - Kim meeting in Singapore could be that Trump will order 3 meter high statues of himself in every city of the USA

[tonbridgebrit]

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/former-nba-star-rodman-head-singapore-u-north-091151734--nba.html





Okay, so Dennis Rodman will be in Singapore.
From the article " Former National Basketball Association star Dennis Rodman said on Friday he will be heading to Singapore for the planned June 12 summit between U.S. President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un."


And Rodman himself said on twitter "I will be flying to Singapore for the historical Summit. I'll give whatever support is needed to my friends, @realDonaldTrump and Marshall Kim Jong Un,"


However, "There was no indication Rodman would be involved in any official talks at Tuesday's summit in Singapore".

[ballpoint]

11 hours ago, webfact said:

Kim met Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong shortly after his arrival...

I wonder what the two have in common?  One's the leader of a country that was split away from another, who was put in place by his family dynasty, ruling with an iron fist and crushing all political opposition, and the other's a... oh.  Maybe Kim got some tips on how to appear to be democratic while keeping things much the same?

[tonbridgebrit]

2 minutes ago, ballpoint said:

I wonder what the two have in common?  One's the leader of a country that was split away from another, who was put in place by his family dynasty, ruling with an iron fist and crushing all political opposition, and the other's a... oh.  Maybe Kim got some tips on how to appear to be democratic while keeping things much the same?

Yeah, but Lee Hsien Loong's Singapore is backed by both Washington and China. Singapore is an island, where a bunch of Chinese live there.
North Korea is backed only by China. America doesn't like North Korea. That's the difference, and it's a big difference. ?

[coulson]

10 hours ago, Cadbury said:

Toad Boy must be green with envy seeing as he fancied himself as being the great peacemaking diplomat to welcome both leaders to Thailand. What an opportunity missed to show himself off in his traditional Thai fancy dress costume on the world stage.

Not even close to being at the races.

 

I live in Singapore and have some work out by Changi, you would not even know the summit was happening it is that well organized.

[thaibeachlovers]

No matter how successful the summit is, the Trump haters will find something about it to disparage, from the way Trump greets Kim, to the expense of the meeting.

No wonder Trump was careful not to be optimistic in his words, or they would be seized on to beat him with.

After a year of hate, it's all becoming irrelevant, as Trump goes on to success after success domestically, and internationally ( I consider upsetting the G6 leaders as a win ).

 

Just by meeting personally with Kim, he's proven he has more influence than several previous presidents, and let's not forget that most of the work at such meetings goes on behind the scenes, between bureaucrats.

Edited June 11, 2018 by thaibeachlovers

[lannarebirth]

9 hours ago, tonbridgebrit said:

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/former-nba-star-rodman-head-singapore-u-north-091151734--nba.html





Okay, so Dennis Rodman will be in Singapore.
From the article " Former National Basketball Association star Dennis Rodman said on Friday he will be heading to Singapore for the planned June 12 summit between U.S. President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un."


And Rodman himself said on twitter "I will be flying to Singapore for the historical Summit. I'll give whatever support is needed to my friends, @realDonaldTrump and Marshall Kim Jong Un,"


However, "There was no indication Rodman would be involved in any official talks at Tuesday's summit in Singapore".

 

Rodman's in Singapore hawking a marijuana related cryptocurrency. Just part of the spectacle.

[Srikcir]

A 20 minute meet and greet.

Well within Trump's attention span.

Let's see what the joint communique will be and more importantly what Trump will tweet later.