11 ‘Forbidden’ Careers Opened to Foreigners

[Jonathan Fairfield]

11 ‘Forbidden’ Careers Opened to Foreigners

By Asaree Thaitrakulpanich, Staff Reporter

 

Foreign workers queue up to process documents Wednesday at the Labor Ministry.

 

BANGKOK — Nearly a dozen previously off-limits jobs were opened to foreign nationals Thursday, while a request retail service jobs be included was denied.

 

A day after shop owners demanded the Labor Ministry decriminalize the hiring of foreign staff, it announced the rules would be relaxed to allow expats to do jobs including masonry, carpentry and shoemaking.

 

Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/business/2018/06/21/11-forbidden-careers-opened-to-foreigners/

 

 

-- © Copyright Khaosod English 2018-06-21

[observer90210]

Very Good.

 

Hopefully it will avoid the cheating thai practice of dual pricing and overcharging foreigners.

 

Let's hope the foreigners will be more honest and quote proper prices and not try to ripoff foreigners,

[arithai12]

8 minutes ago, observer90210 said:

Very Good.

 

Hopefully it will avoid the cheating thai practice of dual pricing and overcharging foreigners.

 

Let's hope the foreigners will be more honest and quote proper prices and not try to ripoff foreigners,

You can choose to dream on, or to read the details in the original article.

[coulson]

Note foreigner is limited to Asean in most cases. This just allows more cheap labour/ services.

 

Nothing to see here

[overherebc]

Too late for me, I'm retired. ??

[observer90210]

15 minutes ago, arithai12 said:

You can choose to dream on, or to read the details in the original article.

???

[Get Real]

34 minutes ago, observer90210 said:

Very Good.

 

Hopefully it will avoid the cheating thai practice of dual pricing and overcharging foreigners.

 

Let's hope the foreigners will be more honest and quote proper prices and not try to ripoff foreigners,

Overcharging might be as you wish, but really, what do you wish to choose?

[Get Real]

37 minutes ago, observer90210 said:

Very Good.

 

Hopefully it will avoid the cheating thai practice of dual pricing and overcharging foreigners.

 

Let's hope the foreigners will be more honest and quote proper prices and not try to ripoff foreigners,

So Mr. Observer. Are we finished with this now? Meeting permit? Fishing permit? Dual Pricing permit?????

Okey, waiting for the next date.

[observer90210]

Hum...looks that I offended all the noodle shop farangs !^?

 

^{(p.s. welcome to my ignore list if you can read this, that is)}

[stanleycoin]

Today there will be 20 over weight Thais complaining about 

Foreigners take there jobs at the pie eating stalls. 

 

Edited June 21, 2018 by stanleycoin

[Somtamnication]

I feel more welcomed, now! 

[yellowboat]

"Citizens from all ASEAN member states will also be allowed to provide certain accounting and civil engineering services and construction-related architectural work that does not require specialized expertise."

 

What secret abilities do Thai accountants, civil engineers and architects have that the rest of the world lacks ?  

[BobBKK]

 

They can also make bedding

 

But I don't want to make my own bed!

 

 

[DavisH]

44 minutes ago, yellowboat said:

"Citizens from all ASEAN member states will also be allowed to provide certain accounting and civil engineering services and construction-related architectural work that does not require specialized expertise."

 

What secret abilities do Thai accountants, civil engineers and architects have that the rest of the world lacks ?  

20 years here and the place still leaves me scratching my head. If they won't employ foreign engineers at least bring them to train Thais how to do the job properly. 

[lanista]

Another total  non-news story.  Burmese ,Cambodians ,Laos and even Viets have been working in crappy low paid jobs for years in LOS. There is another condo tower going up soon opposite my shophouse in BKK.The engineers and site  supervisors wil be Thais earning  @ 20K +  a month and the many hundreds of labourers will be Burmese earning 300 b/day plus free onsite accomodation in tin sheds or outdoor hammocks. Absolute given!

[PatOngo]

54 minutes ago, yellowboat said:

"Citizens from all ASEAN member states will also be allowed to provide certain accounting and civil engineering services and construction-related architectural work that does not require specialized expertise."

 

What secret abilities do Thai accountants, civil engineers and architects have that the rest of the world lacks ?  

They understand Thainess………...and the very shortest path between any give points!

[Peterw42]

11 hours ago, observer90210 said:

Very Good.

 

Hopefully it will avoid the cheating thai practice of dual pricing and overcharging foreigners.

 

Let's hope the foreigners will be more honest and quote proper prices and not try to ripoff foreigners,

Not following the link between foreign labour and dual pricing. What has one got to do with the other. A business hires a foreign shoemaker instead of a Thai one, scratching my head as to how this changes dual pricing ?

As the OP says, foreigners will still not be in retail sales, quoting the price.

Edited June 22, 2018 by Peterw42

[Sir Swagman]

I was hanging on the hand rolling of cigarettes to be opened up to foreigners. Maybe next coup.

 

[trainman34014]

If The lazy Thai's got of their hammocks and <deleted> the country wouldn't need so many Foreign workers.

 

It would also help if they used their pea sized brains to actually learn something useful in the first 30 years they seem to spend at school or in what they call University's !

[upu2]

'.... certain accounting and civil engineering services and construction-related architectural work that does not require specialized expertise" if they cant have expertise where is the required expertise coming from?

[Surasak]

Will the cowboy builders be queuing up?

[ChiangMaiLightning2143]

“Nielloware, making Thai paper, umbrellas and Thai Music instruments”

This protects nobody. Most of what is sold as handicrafts is junk from China. How many Thais are interested in apprenticeship in traditional arts?

They should open these areas up to serious foreign students who want to master something just like you can get a visa to learn to be a swordsmith in Japan. No pfaffing about it must be a serious commitment

[webfact]

List of jobs reserved for Thais trimmed

By The Nation

 

 

Foreigners as of July 1 will be permitted to work in 12 professions previously reserved for Thais, though 28 other kinds of jobs remain off limits, including traditional Thai-style massage.
 

An updated list of occupations reserved for Thais was announced on Thursday, the number dropping from 39 on the list used since 1979.

 

Labour Minister Pol General Adul Sangsingkeo said the list would be publicised in the interim and transgressors would be treated with leniency. After July 1, officials would arrest violators, he said.

 

The 12 professions to be opened to foreigners include manual labour, as defined by the Employment Department, and 11 others for which foreigners can be hired “as necessary”, with the condition that they can only be employees, not business owners or working independently.

 

The 11 others are agriculture, including animal husbandry, forestry, fisheries and other non-expert jobs; bricklaying, carpentry and other construction work; and making mattresses, quilt blankets, knives, shoes, hats, dresses, pottery and ceramic ware.

 

Foreigners with professional licences recognised in Thailand will also be able to work in civil engineering, architecture and accountancy, though with some restrictions on internal auditing.

 

Adul explained that these three occupations were being opened to foreigners as required by an Association of Southeast Asian Nations agreement on free labour migration.

 

The 28 professions reserved for Thais include 16 that involve “Thai wisdom” and “Thai characteristics”.

 

These are woodcarving; weaving cloth by hand; weaving mats and utensils from reeds, rattan, hemp, straw and bamboo pellicle; making mulberry paper and silk products by hand; making lacquerware, nielloware, Thai musical instruments, traditional Thai dolls, gold ornaments, silverware, bronzeware, alms bowls, cloth umbrellas and Buddha images; typesetting in Thai characters; and silk reeling and twisting by hand.

 

The other 12 reserved jobs are driving commercial vehicles on local routes (other than piloting international aircraft); staffing shops and other retail outlets; auctioneering; cutting and polishing diamonds and other precious stones; hairdressing and beauty care; brokering other than in international trade; rolling cigarettes by hand; guiding tours; street vending; clerical and secretarial work; legal services work; and Thai massage.

 

Adul assured shop owners they would still be able to hire foreign staff, but only for general chores such as handing goods to customers and handling inventory and payments.

 

Foreigners will only be allowed to drive commercial vehicles on the grounds of their places of employment, he said.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30348366

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2018-06-22

[yellowboat]

6 hours ago, DavisH said:

20 years here and the place still leaves me scratching my head. If they won't employ foreign engineers at least bring them to train Thais how to do the job properly. 

Their loss is China's, Vietnam's and Malaysia's gain.  Those who run Thailand are funny, impractical people.  If you keeping scratching your head, you will hurt your scalp.  Just shrug your shoulders, and ponder it no more.   Under military rule, it has gotten worse.  IMO, Thailand is just a rest stop to someplace better.  Too many people have said to me, great idea, but don't it in Thailand.  

[thaichiro]

Definite dearth of caucasians in the foreign workers queue

[chainarong]

17 hours ago, overherebc said:

Too late for me, I'm retired. ??

U can always come out of retirement overherebc , U can drive one of their many high Speed trains...…………..?

[fusion58]

12 hours ago, webfact said:

The other 12 reserved jobs are driving commercial vehicles on local routes (other than piloting international aircraft)

 

Whew! That's a relief.

[kickstart]

22 hours ago, lanista said:

Another total  non-news story.  Burmese ,Cambodians ,Laos and even Viets have been working in crappy low paid jobs for years in LOS. There is another condo tower going up soon opposite my shophouse in BKK.The engineers and site  supervisors wil be Thais earning  @ 20K +  a month and the many hundreds of labourers will be Burmese earning 300 b/day plus free onsite accomodation in tin sheds or outdoor hammocks. Absolute given!

Not only on building sites ,where I am we have a big electronics factory, making  mainly computer  parts ,I was our local immigration office  doing my 90 day ,waiting my turn ,and in walk 4-5 girls in the factory uniform, I thought what are they doing here ,then they spoke ,they where Cambodians, all doing they 90 day report all working legally  at the electronic factory,on less wages than the Thai's.of course 

We also have large pig processing factory, near here all the killing is done by Cambodians, Thai's will not do the job .they do get paid well 16 000baht/ month, but very long hours.

If it is a crap job, and employers can get away with pay lower wages, they will employ foreign workers, and rules will be bent.

[heybuz]

Glad to see rolling cigarettes by hand is there in the reserved list, have to be careful when a puff.

Edited June 23, 2018 by heybuz
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[rickudon]

Any of you want to cut rice this year? I presume you will need to get a work permit first......