Put your cards on the table, EU makes last Brexit call to Britain

[tebee]

18 minutes ago, The Renegade said:

Only appears to happen to you tebee.

 

Might be time to come to the conclusion that what you consider to be sources are actually sources of '' Fake news '' and that is why they keep getting getting deleted.

 

 

 

[stephenterry]

Raab, the newly appointed  Bexit negotiator says: “Leaving the European Union involves challenge and opportunity. We need to rise to the challenge and grasp the opportunities.

Technological revolutions and scientific transformations are driving major changes in the global economy. In line with our modern industrial strategy, this government is determined to make sure the UK is ready to lead the industries of the future and seize the opportunities of global trade.

At the same time, we need to cater for the deeply integrated supply chains that criss-cross the UK and the EU, and which have developed over our 40 years of membership.

The plan outlined in this white paper (circulated by May to the cabinet and agreed) delivers this balance.”

 

 

[tebee]

1 hour ago, The Renegade said:

Brilliant satire coming from a remainer ??

 

You do understand the reason that she is called Priti ( Vacant ) Patel ?

 

......

Ah! - maybe that's why she supports Brexit!!!

[findlay13]

On 6/30/2018 at 9:10 AM, blazes said:

Putting it off for a generation sounds like something right out of the mouths of the Brussels elite....

or, to put it another way, "17 million voters are ignorant buffoons.  Now, enough of that nonsense, and do it our way".

Exactly!

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, findlay13 said:

Exactly!

Brexiteer returns to his misunderstanding of the history and aftermath of WW2.

 

 

 

[stephenterry]

7 minutes ago, findlay13 said:

Exactly!

Interesting article below that meanders around the British mindset towards its continental cousins.

https://culturematters.com/is-england-britain-part-of-europe/f

[nauseus]

53 minutes ago, The Renegade said:

Did you manage to write that all by yourself ?

 

Or did you steal it from some unidentified sources ? 

 

Your brilliance is a sight to behold ??

Stolen from Project Fear For Dummies.

[stephenterry]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Brexiteer returns to his misunderstanding of the history and aftermath of WW2.

 

 

 

Yeah, like all the continental resistance movements who also risked their lives to support the allies.

[tebee]

I'm not calling you out for voting Leave, you couldn't have possibly known how things would have turned out.

I am calling you out if you support Brexit now. You are either already rich or a moron, check your bank balance.

 

https://twitter.com/dontbrexitfixit/status/1017200159703404545

 

[stephenterry]

2 minutes ago, The Renegade said:

Raab, is the newly appointed '' Brexit Secretary ''

 

Olly Robbins is the UK's '' Brexit Negotiator ''

 

So much faith by remainers in an article ( from where ? ) that cannot get his title correct and cannot spell Brexit ??

 

Did that come from jonny aged 5 from the crayon monthly ??

You look it up mr know-it-all - just google the text, as jonny aged 5 from the crayon monthly could do. Apart from that, TM states in today's media she will take a more hands-on role in the negotiations, which I'm sure will involve Raab as well as Robbins. Otherwise, what's the point of appointing a Brexiteer?

[dick dasterdly]

20 minutes ago, tebee said:

 

 

Just now, tebee said:

I'm not calling you out for voting Leave, you couldn't have possibly known how things would have turned out.

I am calling you out if you support Brexit now. You are either already rich or a moron, check your bank balance.

 

https://twitter.com/dontbrexitfixit/status/1017200159703404545

 

It's beginning to make sense - you not only heed twitter comments, but also consider them a source?

[Scott]

Troll posts reported and removed. 

[The Renegade]

12 minutes ago, stephenterry said:

You look it up mr know-it-all -

I do not need to look anything up.

 

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What do we know about Dominic Raab, and what does it tell us about how he might approach his new job as Brexit secretary? 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jul/11/dominic-raab-ideologue-rights-eu-brexit

 

Can you read that ? It says '' Brexit Secretary '' the same title David Davis had.

 

You might want to read the rest of the article. It throws up some of Raab's more interesting ideas ??

[tebee]

https://on.ft.com/2Nc1apk

[tebee]

 

[sandyf]

18 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

Personally I think the UK is capable of making it's own rules, and doesn't need rules imposed on it by an outside entity made up of overpaid egotistical civil servants.

Of course the UK can make its own rules, didn't work very well in the past but that is another issue.

Currently the UK trades under EU agreements but for some strange reason some think that with reduced clout and their back against the wall the UK can get a better deal. It would be some assumption to think that UK trade negotiators are better than the EU considering their experience and the UK lack of it.

Currently goods that require standard confirmation trade under the CE mark, a UK equivalent is not going to happen overnight and would have to be in regulatory alignment with the CE mark. Some may see that as making as making your own rules, although dictated by an outside entity.

Either way, these "own rules" would not make things easier for UK business.

 

Of course what has business got to do with it, jobs are nothing more than collateral damage.

 

His comments are the latest in an ongoing row between Brexiteers and business leaders, which hit fever pitch when Boris Johnson reportedly declared "f*** business" after warnings over the consequences of a no-deal exit.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jacob-rees-mogg-cbi-brexit-business-uk-economy-forecast-a8443056.html

[tebee]

27 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

 

It's beginning to make sense - you not only heed twitter comments, but also consider them a source?

I post them as opinions - you are free to have your own too you know.....

[tebee]

5 minutes ago, The Renegade said:

Why ?

 

Are you struggling to form your own opinion ?

Oh I have very strong opinions of my own 

 

You might have noticed....

[vogie]

4 minutes ago, tebee said:

Oh I have very strong opinions of my own 

 

You might have noticed....

Many people have strong opinions they know nothing about. ???

Edited July 12, 2018 by vogie

[nauseus]

16 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Of course the UK can make its own rules, didn't work very well in the past but that is another issue.

Currently the UK trades under EU agreements but for some strange reason some think that with reduced clout and their back against the wall the UK can get a better deal. It would be some assumption to think that UK trade negotiators are better than the EU considering their experience and the UK lack of it.

Currently goods that require standard confirmation trade under the CE mark, a UK equivalent is not going to happen overnight and would have to be in regulatory alignment with the CE mark. Some may see that as making as making your own rules, although dictated by an outside entity.

Either way, these "own rules" would not make things easier for UK business.

 

Of course what has business got to do with it, jobs are nothing more than collateral damage.

 

His comments are the latest in an ongoing row between Brexiteers and business leaders, which hit fever pitch when Boris Johnson reportedly declared "f*** business" after warnings over the consequences of a no-deal exit.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jacob-rees-mogg-cbi-brexit-business-uk-economy-forecast-a8443056.html

Nobody said we could get a better deal. Of course CE can happen immediately; we already conform to it.

[The Renegade]

28 minutes ago, tebee said:

Oh I have very strong opinions of my own 

 

You might have noticed....

Actually I didn't notice.

 

I could never make up my mind what was YOUR opinion and what you had stolen from elsewhere.

 

[dick dasterdly]

53 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Of course the UK can make its own rules, didn't work very well in the past but that is another issue.

Currently the UK trades under EU agreements but for some strange reason some think that with reduced clout and their back against the wall the UK can get a better deal. It would be some assumption to think that UK trade negotiators are better than the EU considering their experience and the UK lack of it.

Currently goods that require standard confirmation trade under the CE mark, a UK equivalent is not going to happen overnight and would have to be in regulatory alignment with the CE mark. Some may see that as making as making your own rules, although dictated by an outside entity.

Either way, these "own rules" would not make things easier for UK business.

 

Of course what has business got to do with it, jobs are nothing more than collateral damage.

 

His comments are the latest in an ongoing row between Brexiteers and business leaders, which hit fever pitch when Boris Johnson reportedly declared "f*** business" after warnings over the consequences of a no-deal exit.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jacob-rees-mogg-cbi-brexit-business-uk-economy-forecast-a8443056.html

"Of course what has business got to do with it, jobs are nothing more than collateral damage."

 

I apologise for 'cherry-picking' one sentence, but big business leaders only care about themselves and how to increase THEIR salaries.  The evidence to support this POV is overwhelming IMO.

 

We have cedric brown... (a prime example, who was more than happy to reduce the workforce to increase his own salary....) /out-sourcing to countries with even cheaper labour/constant 're-structuring' of companies and the like, to reduce the salary of those at the bottom/middle of the chain etc. etc. ?.

 

 

Edited July 12, 2018 by dick dasterdly

[tebee]

17 minutes ago, The Renegade said:

Actually I didn't notice.

 

I could never make up my mind what was YOUR opinion and what you had stolen from elsewhere.

 

 

[RuamRudy]

26 minutes ago, The Renegade said:

Actually I didn't notice.

 

I could never make up my mind what was YOUR opinion and what you had stolen from elsewhere.

 

If there is a significant convergence of minds, why strike out alone and create something new if the perfect example already exists? An apt metaphor for the EU and Brexit, don't you think?

[tebee]

3 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

If there is a significant convergence of minds, why strike out alone and create something new if the perfect example already exists? An apt metaphor for the EU and Brexit, don't you think?

That.

[The Renegade]

1 minute ago, RuamRudy said:

If there is a significant convergence of minds, why strike out alone and create something new if the perfect example already exists? An apt metaphor for the EU and Brexit, don't you think?

You think that there is a convergence of minds between the UK and the EU ??

 

In fact, the only thing I can say to that is:

 

?????

 

 

[tebee]

1 minute ago, The Renegade said:

You think that there is a convergence of minds between the UK and the EU ??

 

In fact, the only thing I can say to that is:

 

?????

 

 

Well there is with half the UK

[The Renegade]

8 minutes ago, tebee said:

Well there is with half the UK

Yes, well, we know why.

 

The BBC from 2008

 

Quote

However, when it came to a higher level of understanding, researchers found that today's pupils were much less successful than in the 1970s.

This could be described as a process of "dumbing down", says Professor Shayer, in which the culture of learning favours an instant, superficial way of handling information.

This also means that there is less emphasis on thinking more deeply and developing skills that provide a more substantial grasp of ideas and concepts, says Professor Shayer.

He says that the culture of text messages and computer games is about speed and instant hits, rather than more profound or detailed ways of handling information.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/7692843.stm

 

There is a very good reason that certain remainers are screaming for another Referendum with only those under 45 allowed to vote ??

Edited July 12, 2018 by The Renegade

[dick dasterdly]

Just now, The Renegade said:

Yes, well, we know why.

 

The BBC from 2008

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/7692843.stm

 

There is a very good reason that certain remainers are screaming for another Referendum with only those under 45 allowed to vote ??

Couldn't agree more!

 

The recent generations are reliant on fb/twitter and the like - which is more than depressing IMO....

 

The older generation are generally FAR less interested in these types of media, which kind of 'throws out of the window' that russian influenced, social media was responsible for the oldies voting to leave. ?

[The Renegade]

4 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

The older generation are generally FAR less interested in these types of media, which kind of 'throws out of the window' that russian influenced, social media was responsible for the oldies voting to leave. ?

Something that I have banged on about continuously.

 

Remainer warcry.

 

It woz the Russians that done it ?

 

It woz Cambridge Analytica that done it ? Which is rib tickling funny as they got their info from fakebook ??

 

Guess who the biggest users of fakebook are ? ??

 

Remainers ??