Thailand's political tough-guy back in the fray to support military as vote nears

[scorecard]

6 hours ago, sjaak327 said:

Actually pretty much everything is factual in this article. The quotes from Suthep that are downright lies cannot be atrributed to Reuters, for the rest they are as usual spot on. 

 

The only inaccuracy I saw was the suggestion that Abhishit's government was installed directly after the coup, whilst it was the third government after that coup. 

You missed the part where Reuters failed to mention that thaksins' conviction was for abuse of authority but rather than be factual they trot out the line 'thaksin says the charge was politically motivated', the fact is that he clearly broke serious laws about abuse of authority. 

[sjaak327]

12 minutes ago, scorecard said:

You missed the part where Reuters failed to mention that thaksins' conviction was for abuse of authority but rather than be factual they trot out the line 'thaksin says the charge was politically motivated', the fact is that he clearly broke serious laws about abuse of authority. 

Whilst having read the actual background to the case, I would certainly say that his conviction smelled of foul. Or in other words that it was politically motivated. 

 

Having said that, Nowhere did reuters mention this.

 

They merely said the following :

 

"Thaksin has been living in exile since 2008 to avoid a graft conviction he said was politically motivated."

 

Which is factual correct, claiming he broke serious laws is not, as the case was everything but clear and done. 

Edited July 2, 2018 by sjaak327

[candide]

11 minutes ago, scorecard said:

You missed the part where Reuters failed to mention that thaksins' conviction was for abuse of authority but rather than be factual they trot out the line 'thaksin says the charge was politically motivated', the fact is that he clearly broke serious laws about abuse of authority. 

Conflict of interest to be more precise, in contradiction with previous law (Section 29 of the Bank of Thailand Act of 1942). So nothing very clear in this case.

Edited July 2, 2018 by candide

[scorecard]

3 minutes ago, sjaak327 said:

Whilst having read the actual background to the case, I would certainly say that his conviction smelled of foul. Or in other words that it was politically motivated. 

 

Having said that, Nowhere did reuters mention this.

 

They merely said the following :

 

"Thaksin has been living in exile since 2008 to avoid a graft conviction he said was politically motivated."

 

Which is factual correct, claiming he broke serious laws is not, as the case was everything but clear and done. 

 

Disagree, it was totally clear, factual, that he broke the law in regard to abuse of authority. 

 

Bye.

 

[sjaak327]

4 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

Disagree, it was totally clear, factual, that he broke the law in regard to abuse of authority. 

 

Bye.

 

Apparently there is plenty of evidence to suggest he did not. No matter what one thinks of this particular case, your claims in regards to Reuters are misplaced. They wrote a factual article, end of story,

[heybruce]

12 hours ago, scorecard said:

You missed the part where Reuters failed to mention that thaksins' conviction was for abuse of authority but rather than be factual they trot out the line 'thaksin says the charge was politically motivated', the fact is that he clearly broke serious laws about abuse of authority. 

I see, Reuters was inaccurate because they failed to report the entire political history of Thailand going back to...how long would make you happy?  How many volumes of information do you think a Reuters article should contain?

[heybruce]

"Thaksin fired up support in the provinces with pro-poor policies, and shook up politics with his brash, election-winning ways."

 

"In the process, he made enemies in the Bangkok-based, military-dominated establishment, which accused him of corruption and buying election victories."

 

"Suthep expects his party's support to come from Thaksin's main enemies, the Bangkok middle class, and he's keen to see that the party sets an example with transparent funding and the inclusion of women, to bolster that support."

 

Three sentences that describe the situation in Thailand.  The established elite surrounded by a Bangkok middle class that are many times wealthier than the majority of Thai people.  The middle class realizes their privileged position depends on preventing democracy and preserving the status quo, and can be relied to always protest against elected government and cheer military rule.

 

For completeness I left in the BS about Suthep providing "transparent funding".  I'll believe that when Prayut and company adequately explain their unusual wealth and the military is subjected to a thorough, competent, independent audit with the results published in Thai and English.

[heybruce]

"Thaksin fired up support in the provinces with pro-poor policies, and shook up politics with his brash, election-winning ways."

 

"In the process, he made enemies in the Bangkok-based, military-dominated establishment, which accused him of corruption and buying election victories."

 

"Suthep expects his party's support to come from Thaksin's main enemies, the Bangkok middle class, and he's keen to see that the party sets an example with transparent funding and the inclusion of women, to bolster that support."

 

Three sentences that describe the situation in Thailand.  The established elite surrounded by a Bangkok middle class that are many times wealthier than the majority of Thai people.  The middle class realizes their privileged position depends on preventing democracy and preserving the status quo, and can be relied to always protest against elected government and cheer military rule.

 

For completeness I left in the BS about Suthep providing "transparent funding".  I'll believe that when Prayut and company adequately explain their unusual wealth and the military is subjected to a thorough, competent, independent audit with the results published in Thai and English.

[thaiguzzi]

This guy, and people like him are the ones holding this country back.

  And they all need locking up. Or better still, hung at public gallows.

Vivre La Siam!