Pheu Thai see pro-Junta plot in lunches with MPS

[snoop1130]

Pheu Thai see pro-Junta plot in lunches with MPS

By Teeranai Charuvastra, Staff Reporter

 

"Group of Three Friends," Somsak Thepsuthin, Suriya Jungrungreangkit and Anoocha Nakhasai.

 

BANGKOK —  A Pheu Thai spokeswoman on Monday accused a pro-junta faction of poaching politicians to support its cause under the disguise of “lunch meetings.”

 

The clique maintained its luncheons with numerous politicians were strictly politics-free, but spokeswoman Sunisa Lertpakawat said they are part of an ongoing effort by the junta to bribe former MPs into joining a political party that supports junta chairman Prayuth Chan-ocha’s next term as a prime minister – an allegation the regime denies.

 

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[Cadbury]

Junta Party political meetings? And these "lunches" would not have more than five attendees would they by any chance? A free lunch in Thailand usually attracts a cast of hundreds.

"Spokeswoman Sunisa Lertpakawat said they are part of an ongoing effort by the junta to bribe former MPs into joining a political party that supports junta chairman Prayuth Chan-ocha’s next term as a prime minister". 

Rest assured, bribery would not be part of the role of an honourable and honest Prayut Chan-o-cha government; or would it?

[Eric Loh]

Who pay for the lunch? Also the bribe money. State or Prayut. 

[Baerboxer]

12 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Who pay for the lunch? Also the bribe money. State or Prayut. 

 

Well Thaksin always preferred to use the State's money. That's how a kleptocracy works. You have to be clever enough to siphon out huge amounts. 

 

But as the man in Malaysia is finding out, it can all go horribly wrong!

 

It seems another trait of the modern politician's genre.

 

But the current government are probably above all that, just as they are above everything!

[robblok]

I have no idea why the PTP worries so much, I mean its not as if its MP's are in it for the money and would switch sides if a better offer comes along. 

 

They always say the voters love the PTP so the voters would leave those MP's and vote PTP.. if not then its the voters choice. 

 

Will be interesting to see how much impact this have if the election ever comes.  

[Eric Loh]

1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Well Thaksin always preferred to use the State's money. That's how a kleptocracy works. You have to be clever enough to siphon out huge amounts. 

 

But as the man in Malaysia is finding out, it can all go horribly wrong!

 

It seems another trait of the modern politician's genre.

 

But the current government are probably above all that, just as they are above everything!

Who's the modern politician's genre that you are referring. If you mean this current junta bunch, you far from being honest. If need reminding, this current bunch seized power from elected politicians and they are using their absolute power to corrupt. More a trait of corrupt power crazy generals; not uncommon in Thailand. Nothing will go horribly wrong for this bunch as they have written laws to protect them from any prosecution; not Thaksin. He not too clever and half his wealth confiscated. He also can't stage coup; just have to win election. 

 

  

[candide]

35 minutes ago, robblok said:

I have no idea why the PTP worries so much, I mean its not as if its MP's are in it for the money and would switch sides if a better offer comes along. 

 

They always say the voters love the PTP so the voters would leave those MP's and vote PT5P.. if not then its the voters choice. 

 

Will be interesting to see how much impact this have if the election ever comes.  

There some irony in it, as you rightly notice.

The other ironic episode is that they also ask the EC to investigate the Three Friends, as well as Prawit Somkid and other ministries, for corruption and use of state resources for political motive, on the basis on the tight law evicted by the Junta.itself. ?

[robblok]

Just now, candide said:

There some irony in it, as you rightly notice.

The other ironic episode is that they also ask the EC to investigate the Three Friends, as well as Prawit Somkid and other ministries, for corruption and use of state resources for political motive, on the basis on the tight law evicted by the Junta.itself. ?

Good let them destroy each-other and let new parties rise from the ashes. 

 

But i do see a lot of irony here the PTP is fought with the same tools they used before. 

 

I am really curious about the elections to see how loyal PTP voters are to the party instead of MP's and of course the junta has poured lots of money (vote buying) into the north to make the people happy and vote for them.  Just curious how this is going to work out.

 

Not that there is any good outcome because... I don't want the PTP win and I don't want the junta win. But those 2 are the ones who most likely get the most votes. 

 

 

[chama]

9 hours ago, robblok said:

I have no idea why the PTP worries so much, I mean its not as if its MP's are in it for the money and would switch sides if a better offer comes along. 

 

They always say the voters love the PTP so the voters would leave those MP's and vote PTP.. if not then its the voters choice. 

 

Will be interesting to see how much impact this have if the election ever comes.  

So whoever has the deepest pockets wins? So situation normal?

[pornprong]

10 hours ago, robblok said:

I have no idea why the PTP worries so much, I mean its not as if its MP's are in it for the money and would switch sides if a better offer comes along. 

 

They always say the voters love the PTP so the voters would leave those MP's and vote PTP.. if not then its the voters choice. 

 

Will be interesting to see how much impact this have if the election ever comes.  

Thaksin is not worried in the slightest, he only just recently commented on the leaving politicians.

 

Thaksin was quoted as saying that he was "glad" to hear about the defections which present an opportunity for newcomers to contest the polls and thankful for their "sacrifice". 

 

and

 

Pheu Thai de-facto leader Thaksin Shinawatra remains confident that the party will win the next general election and capture more seats than in previous polls. 

 

[pornprong]

1 hour ago, chama said:

So whoever has the deepest pockets wins? So situation normal?

Thai election results, since Thaksin came onto the scene, have nothing to do with deep pockets.

There are far more billionaire Thais on the yellow side than with Thaksin.

The reason for the last two coups is because the Thai electorate can't be bought off.

[djjamie]

14 minutes ago, pornprong said:

Thai election results, since Thaksin came onto the scene, have nothing to do with deep pockets.

There are far more billionaire Thais on the yellow side than with Thaksin.

The reason for the last two coups is because the Thai electorate can't be bought off.

Pretty big bribe here. If a monkey offered $489  per ton the primate would have won the election.

 

The majority of his roughly 750,000 constituents, many of them poor paddy farmers, are in full support of a year-old government scheme that promises them 15,000 baht ($488) per ton of white rice, he says, far more than they earned in the past. Here

[thaiguzzi]

2 minutes ago, djjamie said:

Pretty big bribe here. If a monkey offered $489  per ton the primate would have won the election.

 

The majority of his roughly 750,000 constituents, many of them poor paddy farmers, are in full support of a year-old government scheme that promises them 15,000 baht ($488) per ton of white rice, he says, far more than they earned in the past. Here

He's back!

AS a matter of fact he's back.

He's back!

Where ya been dude?

[djjamie]

8 minutes ago, thaiguzzi said:

He's back!

AS a matter of fact he's back.

He's back!

Where ya been dude?

Deflecting facts? Haha. I moved back to Oz...only post when in Thailand. I am back for holidays. Nice to be remembered...haha

Edited July 3, 2018 by djjamie

[bannork]

33 minutes ago, pornprong said:

Thaksin is not worried in the slightest, he only just recently commented on the leaving politicians.

 

Thaksin was quoted as saying that he was "glad" to hear about the defections which present an opportunity for newcomers to contest the polls and thankful for their "sacrifice". 

 

and

 

Pheu Thai de-facto leader Thaksin Shinawatra remains confident that the party will win the next general election and capture more seats than in previous polls. 

 

Well he would say that, wouldn't he? He is hardly going to admit he is worried. Like a bank, confidence is everything. Otherwise there will be a run- straight towards Palang Pracharat.

[bannork]

According to the paper that cannot be mentioned, there will be an announcement later this week regarding the defection of certain important ex-Pheua Thai MPs, as well as some local red shirt leaders, one is in Khorat, to Palang Phracharat.

Again, according to the source, Pheua Thai has lost the support of ex-Pheua Thai MPs in south Issan, only north Issan is still loyal to Pheua Thai, and even there they may  have to be worried.

Will Pinit Jarusombat (Beung Kan) who has several MPs in his faction, remain loyal to Thaksin?

Will these defectors  be rejected by the electorate as traitors to the cause and fail in the next election like so many Bhumjai candidates who left Thaksin did in the last?

Or will the voters follow their previous MPs in defection? Some say the populist policies of the government are having some success.

Perhaps there will be an opening for Future Forward here. Thanathorn has the money. Maybe he can offer the electorate an alternative if he can persuade some local candidates of appeal and ability to join him.