Junta's 20-year plan set to vote Friday

[snoop1130]

Junta's 20-year plan set to vote Friday

By Pravit Rojanaphruk, Senior Staff Writer

 

Junta chairman Prayuth Chan-ocha

 

BANGKOK — The rubber-stamp parliament will vote Friday on whether to endorse a proposal to enact the junta’s 20-year national strategy plans, a spokesman said.

 

Gen. Suchart Nongbua, who represents the parliament’s committee that vets the bill, said Monday that the committee has decided on only one addendum and that drafting plans could go ahead if it passes.

 

Full Story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2018/07/02/juntas-20-year-plan-set-to-vote-friday/

 

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[Denim]

Anyone familiar with China's great leap forward can guess how the junta's 20 year plan will end.

[Eric Loh]

So the original plan to have public hearings before enactment is off. Why wait Friday then. Get it over and done. Plain sailing. 

[Thaiwrath]

The controversial plans will require future elected governments to stick to them or face possible removal and criminal liabilities.

 

 

 

This is what should be happening to these clowns in charge now !

[sammieuk1]

Take take take for 19.9 years rinse repeat

[Cadbury]

Why are they dressed in the same clown outfits they wore to the caves? Surely they must be a bit on the nose by now. A bit of Louis Vuitton underarm wouldn't go astray.

20 year plan indeed! They haven't even made any sort of plan in the four years they have been in power or fulfilled any promise they have made in that four years. Lotteries, pavements, you name it!

Someone should tell these fools that dreams do not equate to plans or reality. They are in military la-la land!

 

[tracker1]

The only plan is they will have the power no matter who wins any election for the next 20 years.  Ridiculous !

[tomta]

7 minutes ago, Cadbury said:

Why are they dressed in the same clown outfits they wore to the caves? Surely they must be a bit on the nose by now. A bit of Louis Vuitton underarm wouldn't go astray.

20 year plan indeed! They haven't even made any sort of plan in the f

Because theT shirts were designed by a very, very superior person

[BestB]

Can not help but wonder what the plan is?

 

At the moment it seems set on destroying the economy.

 

May be plan is to wipe out and then spend 20 years on rebuilding. May be subs can be used for fishing industry

[jenny2017]

20 more years with a guy who's neither a soldier nor a politician? Noooooooo

[jenny2017]

11 minutes ago, chickenslegs said:

If I had knees like that, I'd want to show them off too.

 

But I wouldn't have invaded Russia - not in those shorts.

I've never thought about that. That's why he had no chance to besiege Russia. His damn funny looking knees of a dwarf. 

[sjaak327]

Khaosod is calling a spade a spade. "The rubber-stamp parliament" refers to the NLA. 

 

And that is the sad reality. Almost as sad as this 20 year plan and the fact that any elected government will have to abide by it. Democracy my ass. 

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[rosst]

Wait until after the election as this administration has no mandate, this is worthy of a totalitarian regime, not happy about this. 

[Happyman58]

In Aus, the gov has 3 year plans  7 years plans 10year plans. Trouble is the Plans only last about a year and a new one is needed. This is just plain rubbish  I know one thing that will happen in 20 years if these dinosaurs live that long  they  will have enormous bank accounts   Now that sound like a great plan

[Srikcir]

6 hours ago, rosst said:

Wait until after the election as this administration has no mandate

Actually it does.

The mandate is called the 2017 Constitution (approved by a majority of voters) and organic laws that have legality equal to the Constitution. To change the junta's 20-year reform plan and associated organic laws will require a constitutional amendment. As pro-military proponents will control the Senate, if not initially a significant part of the House, there'll be no amendments in for foreseeable future with the next elected government. Especially so if Prayut can become an unelected PM after the elections.

[Cadbury]

If the junta's record over the past four years is anything to go by then the infamous 20 year plan can be expected to last no longer than 20 months. It is the junta that has given birth to this monstrosity and it will be junta's incompetence that will see it wither and die. 

The junta sees themselves as a huge success but in reality it has taken them four years to spectacularly achieve NOTHING. 

[sjaak327]

Actually it does.
The mandate is called the 2017 Constitution (approved by a majority of voters) and organic laws that have legality equal to the Constitution. To change the junta's 20-year reform plan and associated organic laws will require a constitutional amendment. As pro-military proponents will control the Senate, if not initially a significant part of the House, there'll be no amendments in for foreseeable future with the next elected government. Especially so if Prayut can become an unelected PM after the elections.

To recap, they have no legal mandate. The constitution that received approval from the "majority of voters" in a referendum that violated pretty much all democratic principles, is null and void, as there was no legal basis for them to call for the referendum in any case, it is about as legal as the 2007 constitution. The only legal way is reinstate the 1997 constitution and start from there. But we all know why that would never happen without tanks on the street, because it would mean a return to true democracy.

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[chama]

22 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

The controversial plans will require future elected governments to stick to them or face possible removal and criminal liabilities.

 

 

 

This is what should be happening to these clowns in charge now !

Is there a way in the Thai constitution to jettison this plan when a real government eventually takes office?

[chama]

Hard to accept a government that was not elected by the people being able to set rules that will impact the country long after they are gone with no option to discard the plan when a real government takes office.

[Raymonddiaz]

Dear leader is really clever. He selected people that will do whatever he wants and The poor  journalists call them MPs.....

[Srikcir]

10 hours ago, sjaak327 said:

the 1997 constitution

A very comprehensive background on this constitution.

http://www.constitutionnet.org/sites/default/files/Paper_on_the_1997_constitution_2.pdf

 

[djjamie]

As long as we do not go back to the dark old days of terrorism in Bangkok as a norm all is good.

[sjaak327]

A very comprehensive background on this constitution.
http://www.constitutionnet.org/sites/default/files/Paper_on_the_1997_constitution_2.pdf
 

Yes and the prelude explains just why it needs to be Re-in stated

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[candide]

2 hours ago, djjamie said:

As long as we do not go back to the dark old days of terrorism in Bangkok as a norm all is good.

There is a constitution that imposes the will of the junta whatever alternative option Thai citizen may want to choose. And this constitution is impossible to amend as it needs the approval of one third of Senate members (appointed by the junta) and 20% of MPs of EACH opposition parties (so that includes Suthep's party, for example). So if there is absolutely no legal  way to remove the junta's grip on politics, even if a majority of citizen may want to remove it, what do you think is likely to happen?

Edited July 3, 2018 by candide

[heybruce]

13 hours ago, djjamie said:

As long as we do not go back to the dark old days of terrorism in Bangkok as a norm all is good.

You really should move to North Korea.  They keep everything peaceful and under control there, you'd love it.

[heybruce]

" The controversial plans will require future elected governments to stick to them or face possible removal and criminal liabilities. "

 

I assume the 20 year plan is designed to give the military a legal option for removing governments, along with their traditional option of a coup.

[Srikcir]

10 minutes ago, heybruce said:

I assume the 20 year plan is designed to give the military a legal option for removing governments, along with their traditional option of a coup.

I am guessing that the way the legal option works is that when an elected government violates legislatively and/or by Executive Branch regulatory and policy actions the provisions of the Constitution and Organic laws relating to the 20-year plan, anti-government elements will petition the Constitution Court to hold such actions as unconstitutional.

Upon a likely ruling by the Court that the government acted unconstitutionally, the NACC will then be petitioned to remove relevant government officials both in the executive and legislative branches of government for abuse of power. That in turn places whatever governmental elements still remaining  into "caretaker" status and new elections are required.

In essence you have a constitutional court coup. Sound familiar?

[heybruce]

6 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

I am guessing that the way the legal option works is that when an elected government violates legislatively and/or by Executive Branch regulatory and policy actions the provisions of the Constitution and Organic laws relating to the 20-year plan, anti-government elements will petition the Constitution Court to hold such actions as unconstitutional.

Upon a likely ruling by the Court that the government acted unconstitutionally, the NACC will then be petitioned to remove relevant government officials both in the executive and legislative branches of government for abuse of power. That in turn places whatever governmental elements still remaining  into "caretaker" status and new elections are required.

In essence you have a constitutional court coup. Sound familiar?

Yes.  As effective as a military coup, and equally undemocratic, but it doesn't generate the same bad press internationally.

[robblok]

I am against the 20 year plan, though for some things like water management it would be a good Idea. Now we see YL did nothing but making plans that Prayut changed and made plans that will be changed again if a new goverment gets in power (non junta). For stuff like that longer plans are useful. Not for what they do now.

 

Others have said it.. this is made to give the junta power to remove governments legally.  Of course that is a bad thing and should be condemned.