BREAKING NEWS All 13 Football Team Members Found Alive inside Flooded Cave

[africasiaeuro]

While not 'tears of joy overcome me ', I am nevertheless thrilled. The more so - because the real story is coming out slowly.

A good article in the Newyork Times - https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/07/02/world/asia/thailand-boys-rescued.html - shows that 2 British divers were the first to reach them. Cave rescue specialists - that 's the official designation for those experts whose skills are beyond your imagination.

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from New York Times :

" The two British divers who were the first to reach the boys were John Volanthen and Rick Stanton, both experts on cave rescues, according to Bill Whitehouse, the vice chairman of the British Cave Rescue Council. "

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The local governor immediately went public to announce they were found by local Navy Seals however.

It is a sign of incompetence that Thai authorities keep on distorting the news. Why do we have to deny the facts to the world public.

Main thing however is they are found in relatively good shape. Still some difficult tasks lay ahead: The actual rescue involving diving through these waters.

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" Trying to take nondivers through a cave is one of the most dangerous situations possible, even if the dives are relatively easy,” Anmar Mirza, a leading American cave rescue expert, told The Associated Press. "

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By now the boys are be terrified by the waters, left alone putting them through a dark, unknown, perhaps murky bath.

My earlier theory into the mental state of the young boys has been confirmed by Dr. Eric Lavonas :

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" I’d expect these children to be physically in fairly rough shape, and psychologically terrified,” said Dr. Eric Lavonas, an emergency physician and trained diving medicine specialist from Denver Health Medical Center and a spokesman for the American College of Emergency Physicians. "

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Let us all say thanks to god and/or Buddha that our prayers did not go unanswered.

I am sure the real experts will know how to tackle the issue of the rescue as far as no silly interference will hamper their expertise.

A thank you to all personel and especially to John Volanthen and Rick Stanton who found them. Respect to all of those who assisted, also , but mostly to:  Two Brits, well done.

Not to forget a hitherto unknown helper :

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" Ben Reymenants, the Belgian owner of a diving school in Phuket, has been helping with the rescue and said he spent eight hours in the water Monday extending the guidelines. "

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Maybe the Farung bashing will now stop, at least for a bit...

 

 

[stament]

12 minutes ago, DukSiam1 said:

I will be interested in hearing what sustained them. How did they keep their spirits up? Could they hear any noise from the rescuers? What role did the coach play? What role did Buddhism play? I'm afraid I would have gone bonkers there in the dark with death so close.

My wife said that the boys had said they just lay very still to try and conserve energy. Bright boys and coach as you never know how long you will be down there for. 

[SupermarineS6B]

3 minutes ago, africasiaeuro said:

While not 'tears of joy overcome me ', I am nevertheless thrilled. The more so - because the real story is coming out slowly.

A good article in the Newyork Times - https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/07/02/world/asia/thailand-boys-rescued.html - shows that 2 British divers were the first to reach them. Cave rescue specialists - that 's the official designation for those experts whose skills are beyond your imagination.

Quote ////

from New York Times :

" The two British divers who were the first to reach the boys were John Volanthen and Rick Stanton, both experts on cave rescues, according to Bill Whitehouse, the vice chairman of the British Cave Rescue Council. "

Unquote ////

The local governor immediately went public to announce they were found by local Navy Seals however.

It is a sign of incompetence that Thai authorities keep on distorting the news. Why do we have to deny the facts to the world public.

Main thing however is they are found in relatively good shape. Still some difficult tasks lay ahead: The actual rescue involving diving through these waters.

Quote ////

" Trying to take nondivers through a cave is one of the most dangerous situations possible, even if the dives are relatively easy,” Anmar Mirza, a leading American cave rescue expert, told The Associated Press. "

Unquote ////

By now the boys are be terrified by the waters, left alone putting them through a dark, unknown, perhaps murky bath.

My earlier theory into the mental state of the young boys has been confirmed by Dr. Eric Lavonas :

Quote ////

" I’d expect these children to be physically in fairly rough shape, and psychologically terrified,” said Dr. Eric Lavonas, an emergency physician and trained diving medicine specialist from Denver Health Medical Center and a spokesman for the American College of Emergency Physicians. "

Unquote ////

Let us all say thanks to god and/or Buddha that our prayers did not go unanswered.

I am sure the real experts will know how to tackle the issue of the rescue as far as no silly interference will hamper their expertise.

A thank you to all personel and especially to John Volanthen and Rick Stanton who found them. Respect to all of those who assisted, also , but mostly to:  Two Brits, well done.

Not to forget a hitherto unknown helper :

Quote ////

" Ben Reymenants, the Belgian owner of a diving school in Phuket, has been helping with the rescue and said he spent eight hours in the water Monday extending the guidelines. "

Unquote ////

Maybe the Farung bashing will now stop, at least for a bit...

 

 

Even in times of extreme danger the lies don't stop.......

[Catoni]

9 hours ago, Mickmouse1 said:

Real Happy Ending?

Not yet. They still have to get out of the cave. 

   Real Happy Ending will be when they are out safely. 

[lvr181]

56 minutes ago, Artisi said:

I did hear of one major injury of an outside guy searching for another entrance - but have no worthwhile detail.

Was it the 'unwelcome' policeman? Too bad, how sad, never mind.  

 

Yup, I know, perhaps a flippant comment but sometimes 'officialdom' needs to be pilloried when they can't see the forest for the trees!

 

 

Edited July 3, 2018 by lvr181
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[sweatalot]

45 minutes ago, Wilsonandson said:

Family members of one of the missing boy celebrate.

heartfelt congratulations

so good seeing authentic joy. Contagious

[swanny321]

9 hours ago, Argus Tuft said:

Emotional and lots of tears here since this broke earlier

Lets hope the next stage goes without drama, as this is not the end

 

   And let's hope someone is looking after the boys rights to their story so they don't

miss out financially in the long run.

[neeray]

36 minutes ago, Dmaxdan said:

This morning Thailand really is The Land of Smiles 

Intelligent thought. Great words.

[Damrongsak]

32 minutes ago, Dmaxdan said:

This morning Thailand really is The Land of Smiles 

Land of Sighs from all the tired rescuers who made it happen.  Get them up and out and we can smile.

[Kadilo]

17 minutes ago, Retiredandhappyhere said:

If your Heavenly Father was responsible for saving these boys, who was responsible for putting them there in the first place?  It must be great to receive credit for the fact that, after an earthquake which kills thousand of innocent people,  a couple of hundred survive, and yet never be blamed for the event which caused it all.

If people’s faith and belief has helped  the boys, families and most of general public in Thailand get to this point who really cares if  you or anyone else thinks it’s misguiged. 

Edited July 3, 2018 by Kadilo

[Artisi]

2 hours ago, ThaiPauly said:

One of the guys that found them has an MBE, surely both of them now deserve knighthoods for their superhuman efforts to find these kids.

 

I am so pleased for the families, I have been thinking of them every day, what they must have been through can only be imagined.

 

Tears of joy in my household this morning

And the equivalent Thai title for all involved. 

[DavisH]

9 hours ago, Kaoboi Bebobp said:

Good to know. Yet not a single mention in the Thai English news reports of the contribution of American, Australian and British experts. A little more credit ought to spread around.

I think the Brits were the first group to reach them, probably along with others. A video showed someone speaking with an English accent to them. Their job is far from finished; more rain is expected tomorrow. 

[Artisi]

2 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Amazing result by EVERYONE who participated in this rescue !, from the international crews to the Thai SEALS, from the local labour workers who tirelessly assisted with dragging equipment through rough terrain to the people who simply provided food and water for these workers desperately trying to achieve a result !!

 

An excellent job done, WELL DONE EVERYONE INVOLVED !!

Every one involved  should be given the highest Thai award possible and be suitably remunerated - from the very top. 

[NoshowJones]

7 hours ago, Ron19 said:

An abusive post has been removed.

Who want's to be abusive at a time like this? Shame on that poster.

Let's all just rejoice that everyone has been found safely.

[Lupatria]

9 hours ago, Fish Head Soup said:

The type of people who do these things are not the type of people to be looking for credit. They will be happy enough to just get the people out safely and go home unrecognized.

      

Absolutely right! This humble attitude based on high moral standards, professional honour, and esprit de corps makes a real hero.

 

It also says a lot about those who loudly claim the credit for others' noble deeds. Let’s hope all the attention seekers among officials and politicians will find the right path.

      

[chainarong]

Congratulations on a job well done , the result was  terrific ThankU  all. ?

[Tug]

Well we are half way there hope someone is staying with them at all times kudos!!

[NCC1701A]

President of Thai Ground Water Association who has been hard at work at #ThamLuang cave. Reportedly his wife has just given him permission to come home. (Perhaps after a bath.)

https://twitter.com/Thai_Talk/status/1013980670173954049

 

[neeray]

2 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Happy ending? That's a little premature as they're still trapped underground in a cave that is likely to flood when the heavy rains come. Getting them out is going to be very difficult.

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We who kept the faith throughout must now keep the faith once again that extraction will be successful. They are found, being cared for, have light, nourishment and company. I am confident that they are out of danger.

[AleG]

1 hour ago, thenoilif said:

I’ve been here through the 04 Tsunami and the flooding 6 or so years ago and there were more smiling faces than frowns. There is something to be said about Thai attitudes towards hardship.

Soon after I moved to Thailand I met a woman who survived the Tsunami the previous year, hearing her story and how she told it I was impressed by the resilience, resourcefulness and bravery in the face of tragedy that it portrayed. Over ten years later I've come to appreciate those as some of the best characteristics of Thai people, I was sure the kids would be found safe.

P.S.: send them a tablet with all the World Cup matches, I'm sure they'll love to catch up,

[toofarnorth]

9 hours ago, Norrad said:

 

Not sure how embedding works, but it seems like an English speaking team found them.

Brought tears to my eyes to hear in English the chap's commentary on finding them.

Great news all round , I first heard the news at 10.35 last night , more tears then.

[Bill Miller]

9 hours ago, jerry921 said:

What about drilling a rescue shaft down to them now that they are located? I know that mine rescue experts have a way of drilling a 24" shaft that they can lift a man out using a sort of torpedo elevator car on a cable. Seems to me in this case they are likely much closer to the surface than a mine rescue situation would be and they might drill down to them in less than 12 hours if they already have the equipment in place.

Mines are typically engineered and mapped to within inches. This cave complex is only vaguely understood. Why it took so long to find the kids, because it was a matter of exploration as much as anything.
Very uncertain as to where exactly they would drill, and the composition of the cave roof unknown.

[overherebc]

2 hours ago, overherebc said:

This is the ideal time to start moving all the media reps' and reporters out of the immediate area and leave the rescuers free to get on with it.

One conference a day with them in an area well away from the cave entrance. One report a day is all they need and all they should get.

@Dexlowe

 

Why do you think my post is sad?

It's the most confusing emoji on TV.

[Dexlowe]

2 minutes ago, overherebc said:

@Dexlowe

 

Why do you think my post is sad?

It's the most confusing emoji on TV.

First of all, this story is far from over and the public has an "investment" in its outcome. Second, we all have an emotional attachment to this story. Third, by restricting media access to the level that you propose is counter-productive and only encourages irresponsible players to break the rules. Fourth and most importantly, the public has a right to know what is going on, and the best way for that to happen is to allow full media coverage. I could go on, but I just wanted to discourage your kind of thinking. The media has acted responsibly throughout this ordeal, so there's no reason to think they won't continue to do so. 

[toofarnorth]

6 hours ago, greenchair said:

I am glad to say that I am ashamed that I had given up on day 7.

Who would think that 13 people could get that far.

The coach is a hero. He obviously did all the right things.

It's not over yet. Now they have to get them out before the monsoon rains start.

Amazing. a miracle.

Well done to the brit that went further and found them. Well done thailand.

You are saying greenchair that the coach is a hero , yet so many since this event have said he is an idiot for going in there ih the first place .  I would like ( and will hear ) what those young lads have to say about him when they arrive back outside.  That must count for a lot surely.

[overherebc]

6 minutes ago, Dexlowe said:

First of all, this story is far from over and the public has an "investment" in its outcome. Second, we all have an emotional attachment to this story. Third, by restricting media access to the level that you propose is counter-productive and only encourages irresponsible players to break the rules. Fourth and most importantly, the public has a right to know what is going on, and the best way for that to happen is to allow full media coverage. I could go on, but I just wanted to discourage your kind of thinking. The media has acted responsibly throughout this ordeal, so there's no reason to think they won't continue to do so. 

You will never discourage my thinking that 99% of so called reporters report to keep the public  aware of what's going on.

Their own name on the front page is what they want and many will make up the facts to suit their own need for 10 minutes of fame.

Get them out of the area of the cave entrance now, there is a lot of work still to be done by the experts that are there and they don't need or want to be falling over idiots trying to shove microphones and cameras in their faces.

[wealthychef]

Can you imagine being stuck in a dark and flooded cave for 10 days?  Unbelievable.  Lucky the year is 2018 and not 1618!  

[Lucky mike]

Great effort, maybe when everyone out and safe they could ignite some coloured flares from within cave and monitor from above to see if there may be another entry/exit ?

Edited July 3, 2018 by Lucky mike

[oldrunner]

Amen.

[dallen52]

They put food and supplies for three months in the cave.

May have to teach them to use scuba diving gear...

 

Not as silly as it sounds. 

 

Poor kids had no idea what day it was or how long they had been there.

 

Very brave young Thais.