1 hour ago, SheungWan said:

Poor Boris. Not much of a leader but not wanting to be left behind so runs after David Davis. A right opportunist so-and-so as he has been all along, but the two of them plus Theresa May's comment that the Government might have to prepare for a no-deal as one of its options pushed sterling right back from the initial Davis resignation.

This is a fair assessment of the ambitious and scheming Boris, who only signed up for the Brexit campaign at the last moment, believing to be in his personal best interests. However we have to note also the incredible damage that this absurd buffoon has done to Britain's status all round the world. Other countries - who find it hard to stop laughing at us - cannot imagine how TM had such awful judgement as to make him Foreign Secretary in the first place. Indeed they were already laughing at us when we voted to leave the World's largest trading block in a rabid attempt to destroy our economy. Oh dear I forgot, Liam Fox was boasting a while back how we could do a trade deal with Panama.

6 hours ago, nontabury said:

So who is David Davis? 

Well acoording to remainers, a stupid lazy uneducated buffoon.

While the truth could not be so different.

Born into poverty in Yorkshire, went on to Warwick University, then the London School of Economics. Then to Harvard Universty. 

In between he joined the territorial SAS. 

Later he spent 17yrs in business.

Not a bad C.V. And now he’s taken the honorable decision to leave appeaser May’s cabinet. Stateing that he does not beleive this is what the majority of the electorate voted for and furthmore he does not think her plan to concede the sovereignty of the U.K will work in the interest of the British people.

 

I think the above shows, not only is he well educated, and with experience in the business world, but also more importantly an honorable man with principles. A man who actually puts his country before his own selfish interest.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ok if he was so clever why did he  never come up with a workable brexit plan?

8 hours ago, nontabury said:

You mean this Farage.

This will split the Conservative party, and also the 

Labour Party. 

At the moment, the British media and the establishment are trying to undermine the democratic decision of the British people. Will they be successful, only time will tell.

 

 

Now you are clutching at straws.

 

Perhaps he could show his contempt for the EU by resigning his seat at the EU Parliment!

 

Farage lead you by the nose while he collects his MEP pay cheque, expenses and stashes his MEP pension.

For anyone who says we should just leave without a deal look at this

 

 

For anyone who says we should just leave without a deal look at this
 
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The resignations thankfully make that unlikely now. Looks like it will be a, hopefully, very soft Brexit now that the hard-core Brexiters have been side-lined.

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Boris is probably pissed off he's not been sent to Russia for the World Cup and been feted with caviar and vodka whilst being pampered.
 
But they'll become malignant back bench MPs and lie through their teeth to fool anyone who'll listen.

Boris barely drinks alcohol.He does however eat (obviously)


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2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Now you are clutching at straws.

 

Perhaps he could show his contempt for the EU by resigning his seat at the EU Parliment!

 

Farage lead you by the nose while he collects his MEP pay cheque, expenses and stashes his MEP pension.

He can't be so negative towards the EU or he would not have applied for a German passport.

3 hours ago, tebee said:

 

 

Ok if he was so clever why did he  never come up with a workable brexit plan?

How do you know he did not have a plan ?

 

Every media outlet, including the remainer Bible ( The Guardian ) will tell you that he was constantly sidelined by May and her puppet Robbins.

 

If he can resign stating that '' May's plan is unworkable and we discussed in depth on Wednesday why it would not work''  suggests that he actually did have a plan.

 

Not much point in having a plan when remainer May & her puppet Robbins is calling the shots.

EU diplomat on David Davis resignation:

 

"The article 50 negotiation has so far taken up several hundreds of hours in negotiation. Of which minister Davis was here for 4 this year. His role has  always been more defined in London. So that’s where they will have to look at the consequences. On this end we will just negotiate with whomever the UK government sends here to do so."

11 minutes ago, tebee said:

EU diplomat on David Davis resignation:

 

"The article 50 negotiation has so far taken up several hundreds of hours in negotiation. Of which minister Davis was here for 4 this year. His role has  always been more defined in London. So that’s where they will have to look at the consequences. On this end we will just negotiate with whomever the UK government sends here to do so."

tebee

 

Go back 4 pages and I posted this with a link to the Guardian yesterday.

 

He only attended 4 hours this year because May sent Robbins to negotiate on behalf of the UK.

 

The link I posted yesterday also confirms this.

 

Damn sure I would not have attended either, when someone else is sent to do the negotiating.

19 minutes ago, The Renegade said:

How do you know he did not have a plan ?

 

Every media outlet, including the remainer Bible ( The Guardian ) will tell you that he was constantly sidelined by May and her puppet Robbins.

 

If he can resign stating that '' May's plan is unworkable and we discussed in depth on Wednesday why it would not work''  suggests that he actually did have a plan.

 

Not much point in having a plan when remainer May & her puppet Robbins is calling the shots.

He was sidelined because everything he said about Brexit was wrong. His own civil servants gave up asking him anything because he had no answers .

 

 someone from No 10 basically said that senior DExEU staff turn to Downing St or Cabinet Off. civil servants if need someone who is willing to think about detail or recommend decisions (they know from experience not to ask their own ministers.) Same for Fox.

29 minutes ago, The Renegade said:

How do you know he did not have a plan ?

 

Every media outlet, including the remainer Bible ( The Guardian ) will tell you that he was constantly sidelined by May and her puppet Robbins.

 

If he can resign stating that '' May's plan is unworkable and we discussed in depth on Wednesday why it would not work''  suggests that he actually did have a plan.

 

Not much point in having a plan when remainer May & her puppet Robbins is calling the shots.

“If he can resign stating that '' May's plan is unworkable and we discussed in depth on Wednesday why it would not work''  suggests that he actually did have a plan.”

 

The world is full of people who gleefully knock other people’s ideas but have no ideas of their own.

4 minutes ago, tebee said:

He was sidelined because everything he said about Brexit was wrong. His own civil servants gave up asking him anything because he had no answers .

 

 someone from No 10 basically said that senior DExEU staff turn to Downing St or Cabinet Off. civil servants if need someone who is willing to think about detail or recommend decisions (they know from experience not to ask their own ministers.) Same for Fox.

???

 

'' Someone said ''

 

???

 

5 minutes ago, tebee said:

He was sidelined because everything he said about Brexit was wrong.

 

He was sidelined because he did not agree with Treeza the Appeaser you mean. Which is a world of difference from '' Everything he said about Brexit was wrong ''

 

You need to start supplying sources for all these '' Someone said '' shoite you keep posting.

1 hour ago, The Renegade said:

???

 

'' Someone said ''

 

???

 

 

He was sidelined because he did not agree with Treeza the Appeaser you mean. Which is a world of difference from '' Everything he said about Brexit was wrong ''

 

You need to start supplying sources for all these '' Someone said '' shoite you keep posting.

These are things he has said/done - does this seem the work of a clever person ?

 

Just now, tebee said:

These are things he has said/done - does this seem the work of a clever person ?

 

Did you make that one yourself , in good old Blue Peter fashion ?

 

You're a real hoot.

Just now, The Renegade said:

Did you make that one yourself , in good old Blue Peter fashion ?

 

You're a real hoot.

I see no reason to reinvent wheels - just as I see no reason to leave the CU to invent our own one.

2 minutes ago, The Renegade said:

Did you make that one yourself , in good old Blue Peter fashion ?

 

You're a real hoot.

.... and while your at it maybe you could explain why some of those things are the work of a strong and stable genius rather than lazy person who can't be bothered with detail  

2 minutes ago, tebee said:

.... and while your at it maybe you could explain why some of those things are the work of a strong and stable genius rather than lazy person who can't be bothered with detail  

Mind reader I am not.

 

Try and articulate a bit better if you want an answer.

11 minutes ago, The Renegade said:

Mind reader I am not.

 

Try and articulate a bit better if you want an answer.

OK one at a time then 

 

He said  we would have trade deals with economies 10 times the size of the EU within 2 years, which is impossible for two reasons  

3 minutes ago, tebee said:

OK one at a time then 

 

He said  we would have trade deals with economies 10 times the size of the EU within 2 years, which is impossible for two reasons  

Source ?

 

You don't count ??

Within days of being appointed Brexit secretary, by the way, Davis repeated this point on Sky News, describing the UK’s soon to be negotiated free trade area as being “10 times larger” than the EU. In monetary terms, which is the only relevant matrix on which to measure it, it was pointed out that there is no free trade area “10 times larger than the EU” in existence. Ten times the EU’s GDP is larger than the GDP of planet earth. 

1 minute ago, tebee said:

Within days of being appointed Brexit secretary, by the way, Davis repeated this point on Sky News, describing the UK’s soon to be negotiated free trade area as being “10 times larger” than the EU. In monetary terms, which is the only relevant matrix on which to measure it, it was pointed out that there is no free trade area “10 times larger than the EU” in existence. Ten times the EU’s GDP is larger than the GDP of planet earth. 

Comprehension difficulties ?

 

Source please ?

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/david-davis-brexit-dominic-raab-theresa-may-a8438346.html

 

3 minutes ago, tebee said:

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/david-davis-brexit-dominic-raab-theresa-may-a8438346.html

 

Right OK.

 

Quote

Within days of being appointed Brexit secretary, by the way, Davis repeated this point on Sky News, describing the UK’s soon to be negotiated free trade area as being “10 times larger” than the EU. 

So he did not say 10 x larger than the EU's GDP.

 

It is highly probable that he said 10 x Larger than the current EU trade deal.

 

What do you want me to rip next ?

 

3 minutes ago, The Renegade said:

Right OK.

 

So he did not say 10 x larger than the EU's GDP.

 

It is highly probable that he said 10 x Larger than the current EU trade deal.

 

What do you want me to rip next ?

 

He still couldn't have done it within 2 years trade deals take typically 5-10 years to negotiate! 

1 minute ago, tebee said:

He still couldn't have done it within 2 years trade deals take typically 5-10 years to negotiate! 

For the EU, yes, you are correct.

 

Not everyone works at the same slow motion speed as the EU.

 

You have no idea if it could be done in 2 years. 

 

 

On 7/9/2018 at 9:20 AM, geriatrickid said:

Is this an appropriate time to suggest that Tony Blair come back?    ?

I'm hoping that this is an out and out joke?

17 hours ago, baboon said:

Three hearty cheers there, then...

I agree, but for probably different reasons...

16 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Why would a "shrink" be used to assess intellectual ability? His mental health has nothing to do with his intellectual capacity to process information and turn it into knowledge through use. He has a business degree but limited business experience. A career politician who has held ministerial office but never sparkled.

 

Again I repeat, it was the BBC this morning on the news that mentioned his intellect for this job has been questioned.

 

He has to deal with a tremendous amount of complexity and ambiguity in the Brexit role, which clearly from his performance his beyond him. Starting to look like a rabbit caught in the headlights.

 

Of course, it doesn't take any great ability to say "we're walking away with  no deal".

 

 

"Of course, it doesn't take any great ability to say "we're walking away with  no deal"."

 

As a result of this ongoing fiasco - I can only hope that you are right and that the uk will walk away with no deal.  Unless of course, the eu and uk govts. start to entertain the notion of NEGOTIATING.....  (Sorry to shout).

 

13 hours ago, nontabury said:

So who is David Davis? 

Well acoording to remainers, a stupid lazy uneducated buffoon.

While the truth could not be so different.

Born into poverty in Yorkshire, went on to Warwick University, then the London School of Economics. Then to Harvard Universty. 

In between he joined the territorial SAS. 

Later he spent 17yrs in business.

Not a bad C.V. And now he’s taken the honorable decision to leave appeaser May’s cabinet. Stateing that he does not beleive this is what the majority of the electorate voted for and furthmore he does not think her plan to concede the sovereignty of the U.K will work in the interest of the British people.

 

I think the above shows, not only is he well educated, and with experience in the business world, but also more importantly an honorable man with principles. A man who actually puts his country before his own selfish interest.

 

 

 

 

Many good points, and I'd add another - the remainers insist that our MPs are far more informed than the rest of us - and yet for some reason think Davis was less informed/intelligent etc. etc......

 

i.e. He didn't support their views....