July 9, 20188 yr Mission chief hits out at errant media By The Nation The rescue mission chief on Monday issued a stern warning to the media covering the evacuation of footballers stranded in a Chiang Rai cave after a news outlet was found flying a drone without permission and another outlet reportedly got access to the police radio frequency and broadcast it. Narongsak Osottanakorn said that both outlets had clearly violated the laws and police were investigating both incidents. Without identifying the name of the news outlet, Narongsak said: “We understand that flying a drone in the area without permission is clearly illegal. A news outlet still flew the drone despite our asking for their cooperation.” The mission chief said he was very upset by the behaviour but said it was the action of an individual outlet, not all media. Pol MajGeneral Chairat Panngao, the regional deputy commander, said the drone in question flew at the same time a helicopter was taking off with one of the footballers. “That was not appropriate. Even if they had the permission, it did not mean they could fly where ever they wanted,” he said. During an inspection, police found a second drone flying in the area. The Thai Air Force, meanwhile, reiterated that the flyer of the drone in question did not have a licence. PPTV station issued an apology for flying the drone at the same time when the helicopter was taking off to a hospital. Although the station’s editorial department had no intention to violate the regulations issued to cover the rescue operation, it acknowledged its mistake and apologised if its action had impacted the operation in any way. The department also stressed that there would be no more such incidents. Narongsak added that another news outlet had got illegal access to police’s frequency, listened it and broadcast it live. Their report, based on illegal access, mentioned that six of the young footballers were evacuated on Sunday despite the fact that only four were. We have to repeatedly answer the public’s queries about the exact number of boys extracted from the cave. “Police are now investigating the incident and searching for those involved in the action,” he said. Chairat said that a special technique was used to access the police radio frequency. “This will be my last request to everybody not to do it. What we are doing now is for the sake of the Mu Pa team members.” He requested the media outlets to stop competing to get better photos and reports and to use news and photos provided by the rescue authorities. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30349672 -- © Copyright The Nation 2018-7-9
July 9, 20188 yr Popular Post I always see that many mainly male civilians carrying portable radios tuned into the police nearly everywhere you go so it can't be that bad or the authorities would forbid it !!!!! what was the special technique they used was it a scanner OMG a new Thai invention no doubt
July 9, 20188 yr ... not following directions for some Thais.... even with the directives are in Thai?
July 9, 20188 yr Media these days is full of vultures, zero talent as reporters. Even the drone looks like a buzzard.
July 9, 20188 yr 57 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: Although the station’s editorial department had no intention to violate the regulations issued to cover the rescue operation, it acknowledged its mistake and apologised if its action had impacted the operation in any way. Do they even sound out aloud to themselves beforehand what they are going spout as an apology when they get caught?
July 9, 20188 yr Mission chief slams ‘unethical media practices’ By MARISA CHIMPRABHA, PRATCH RUJIVANAROM THE NATION A Thai soldier and a police officer block a photographer during the evacuation operation of a boy with a helicopter to a hospital after he was rescued from the Tham Luang cave, at an air force airport in Chiang Rai province yesterday. //EPA-EFE PHOTO UNETHICAL REPORTING has been cited for hampering the rescue operation to save 13 trapped footballers from a flooded cave in Chiang Rai, as some reporters broke the law and the rights of their news sources to get the latest stories. Narongsak Osottanakorn, the rescue mission chief, yesterday issued a stern warning to the media over the illegal issues and ordered an investigation after one news agency flew a drone over the area, while another reportedly got access to the police radio frequency and broadcast communications. Narongsak stressed that flying a drone in the area without permission and unauthorised access of the police radio frequency were clear violations of law and said the police were now investigating the incidents and searching for those involved. Although he did not mention the news agencies by name, PPTV and Workpoint have released statements of apology and promised that they will not repeat these wrongdoings. Warat Karuchit, a lecturer at Thammasat University’s School of Journalism and Mass Communication, said that people should not only blame the journalists in the field for their harmful news reporting, but they should put pressure on their editorial teams, media outlet owners and media sponsors. “As everyone is criticising the on-site reporters for their unethical ways to get the news, most people do not turn to their bosses and sponsors, who order these reporters to compete with other news outlets with fresher and more exciting news in order to get more ratings,” Warat said. “Reporters in the field can be considered as another victim of the fierce competition among news agencies for ratings and are also forced to do harmful and unethical news coverage by their bosses, so the public should instead put more pressure on the policy makers at these news outlets.” He suggested that editorial teams and the owners of all media agencies should set up proper news reporting standards for every journalist and make sure that they are forbidden to report the news unethically. He also urged the journalists’ associations to draft good-reporting standards and set up a punishment for violations of journalistic ethics. “The people have the power to campaign on this issue, as we can boycott unethical news outlets and their sponsors anytime, which will seriously affect their income from ratings,” Warat said. He released the statement alongside more than 450 people under the banner of “The People Network for Journalistic Ethic”. They demanded that journalists and their media outlets follow their profession’s code of ethics strictly while covering the news about the rescue of the trapped team members in Tham Luang cave and respect the rights of their news sources. The statement also asked all people to unsubscribe the news agencies that violate the ethical code and urged them to carefully consume the news to avoid unintentionally spreading fake news and harmful news reports. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30349693 -- © Copyright The Nation 2018-07-10
July 9, 20188 yr Well they got rid of the English guy who reported on the pineapple farm. But far too many to real, as they would cause a real stink if they sent reporters home. What is the problem? people not informed; too many people at the site; not sure who is in charge. Maybe it started OK but has turned into a circus? Hope they sought it out.
July 9, 20188 yr Popular Post You can' really blame the reporters, it's a huge story. You just got to make as many barriers as you can if you are determined not to let anyone see anything. But I think if they had allowed a pool reporter (with clear guidelines) to have close access, many of the news outlets would have been less aggressive. The less the people get to see of these events, the quicker this story will fade from memory. Thailand should have managed the event in a way that people were allowed some involvement through pictures and video. There were obviously some epic scenes that were never captured. In the end this is Thailand's loss. They had the world's unblinking attention and they said. Don't look, go away.
July 9, 20188 yr Popular Post Does the word 'illegal' really exist in Thailand? I've personally witnessed law breaking every single day for the past ten year and in full view of individuals who are placed in the charge of serving and protecting the public. Although the media can be a pain, it can also convey the truth, which is possibly another word seemingly forgotten, in general, within Thai culture. The truth is, a Thai official led Young studies into a dangerous place clearly marked Dangerous which subsequently created a mess, risking many people's life's, exposing the lack of critical thinking for the whole world to witness, plus the fact the Thai students have a poor understanding of a second language and an inability to swim with foreign expertise being sought. This incident could provide a lot of useful lessons to be learnt and acted upon, but I doubt that would happen. Truth hurts...Egg on Face..Submission is not allowed...
July 10, 20188 yr Popular Post 1 hour ago, canuckamuck said: You can' really blame the reporters, it's a huge story. You just got to make as many barriers as you can if you are determined not to let anyone see anything. But I think if they had allowed a pool reporter (with clear guidelines) to have close access, many of the news outlets would have been less aggressive. The less the people get to see of these events, the quicker this story will fade from memory. Thailand should have managed the event in a way that people were allowed some involvement through pictures and video. There were obviously some epic scenes that were never captured. In the end this is Thailand's loss. They had the world's unblinking attention and they said. Don't look, go away. That was really well written. Yes, it is a historical event, almost the entire planet is watching with bated breath. There is incredible footage lost forever that could be used in untold ways to benefit the country. Although the historical society is there, they most likely will only record the positive aspects without the negative. And certain truths will possibly be bent a wee bit. The first boys coming out was a major event and it's all been concealed. For what? ??
July 10, 20188 yr Popular Post 13 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Without identifying the name of the news outlet, Narongsak said: 13 hours ago, snoop1130 said: PPTV station issued an apology for flying the drone at the same time when the helicopter was taking off coherence...
July 10, 20188 yr Popular Post 39 minutes ago, Sonhia said: Does the word 'illegal' really exist in Thailand? everything is illegal in this country... You're probably a criminal and you don't even know... Edited July 10, 20188 yr by MekkOne
July 10, 20188 yr Popular Post That is very bad. No wonder Army cleared the area in advance, but media is in bad light. I support the way they handle this, and keeping the operation secretive, and keeping media away. It is very ethic to reveal the details of the persons rescued after all operation is over.
July 10, 20188 yr Popular Post 2 hours ago, canuckamuck said: You can' really blame the reporters, it's a huge story. You just got to make as many barriers as you can if you are determined not to let anyone see anything. But I think if they had allowed a pool reporter (with clear guidelines) to have close access, many of the news outlets would have been less aggressive. The less the people get to see of these events, the quicker this story will fade from memory. Thailand should have managed the event in a way that people were allowed some involvement through pictures and video. There were obviously some epic scenes that were never captured. In the end this is Thailand's loss. They had the world's unblinking attention and they said. Don't look, go away. Utter bilge. This is just you glorying in the sound of your own typing. You are missing everything there is to think about here.
July 10, 20188 yr Popular Post 3 hours ago, Chris Lawrence said: Well they got rid of the English guy who reported on the pineapple farm. But far too many to real, as they would cause a real stink if they sent reporters home. What is the problem? people not informed; too many people at the site; not sure who is in charge. Maybe it started OK but has turned into a circus? Hope they sought it out. More rubbish from someone who clearly thinks he is so smart. This story concerns 12 teenagers and their football coach. Well done to the authorities for trying to protect the health and sensitivities of the kids and their families. Why not talk about pineapples when it is more appropriate. If you think the organisation of this operation is a shambles, I would like you take up the smart offer made here a few days ago of dumping yourself in the cave the boys were in and then organising your own rescue. There is an open offer of $1,000 to help you on your way with that.
July 10, 20188 yr Popular Post 17 minutes ago, The Deerhunter said: Some illadvised or stupid decision was made but that is a very damaging speculation to make. And even being gay which his what I think you are suggesting, does not automatically make someone a predator. There are many, many straight predators. Nasty Rumors at a time like this...so Pathetic/Juvenile The sign at entrance says July not enter ( Warning ) , they went in June 23rd...why crucify the coach . Maybe coach was a little stupid for taking in there in the first place, ..Their were NO intent of harm….But He saved them...( Meditation) was a monk for 10 years..Just think what if he had not been there? ? He is presently the one in the worse condition, gave all food and water to the boys. He saved those boys lives, , further more officials should have Gated the entrance knowing the risk long ago…They be the ones should be held accountable...Coach parents died at very young age...Presently thousands of families here in Thailand want to adopt him... Edited July 10, 20188 yr by yrag
July 10, 20188 yr I don’t understand why the Thai government has such a problem with the public’s right to know. This story has the world on pins and needles. Maybe establishing a press area closer to the rescue site is the answer.
July 10, 20188 yr I don’t understand why the Thai government has such a problem with the public’s right to know. This story has the world on pins and needles. Maybe establishing a press area closer to the rescue site is the answer.I read somewhere that the names of the kids rescued are withhold to stop further anguish for the parents and not to put them through a state where some might be saying ‘why him and not my son’.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
July 10, 20188 yr 2 hours ago, MekkOne said: everything is illegal in this country... You're probably a criminal and you don't even know... Very true i committed a heinous crime this morning shopping for milk at 711 in shorts MINUS underwear .... tis a real law evidently thou shalt not "not " wear underwear! Can only be in Thailand where on the other hand you can buy overpriced beers and gaze at women without underwear through a glass ceiling
July 10, 20188 yr Whats the difference between the main-stream news and a catfish. One's a bottom-feeder and the other is a fish.
July 10, 20188 yr 15 hours ago, snoop1130 said: He requested the media outlets to stop competing to get better photos and reports and to use news and photos provided by the rescue authorities. Trying to ask the media to not compete, sounds like Burger King asking Mc Donalds to not sell hamburger. Just ain´t in parity with reality.
July 10, 20188 yr Popular Post 3 hours ago, canuckamuck said: You can' really blame the reporters, it's a huge story. You just got to make as many barriers as you can if you are determined not to let anyone see anything. But I think if they had allowed a pool reporter (with clear guidelines) to have close access, many of the news outlets would have been less aggressive. The less the people get to see of these events, the quicker this story will fade from memory. Thailand should have managed the event in a way that people were allowed some involvement through pictures and video. There were obviously some epic scenes that were never captured. In the end this is Thailand's loss. They had the world's unblinking attention and they said. Don't look, go away. There have been photos, media releases and actual video of the rescue released. The media access is managed, but some of the entertainment outlets want to have a scoop. Do you not understand that space and air is at a premium? Every extra body takes up valuable resources. You are demanding that you have your entertainment at the potential cost of someone's life. 2 hours ago, greenchair said: That was really well written. Yes, it is a historical event, almost the entire planet is watching with bated breath. There is incredible footage lost forever that could be used in untold ways to benefit the country. Although the historical society is there, they most likely will only record the positive aspects without the negative. And certain truths will possibly be bent a wee bit. The first boys coming out was a major event and it's all been concealed. For what? ?? You do understand that these are children don't you? Are you aware that there are privacy laws in place just as there are in the west. Those laws and concerns are stricter when children are involved. The immediate physical condition and the appearance of those kids is none of your business. You have neither the legal nor the moral right to demand access. When the time is appropriate, information will be released. this kids are immunosuppressed at are at high risk of long term lung damage and infection from lethal disease. Now is not the time to use them for entertainment purposes. They must be quarantined until they are physically stronger. 23 minutes ago, brucegoniners said: I don’t understand why the Thai government has such a problem with the public’s right to know. This story has the world on pins and needles. Maybe establishing a press area closer to the rescue site is the answer. There has been no interference with the right to know. the Thai government is acting responsibly and in the best interests of the children. The kids come before your imaginary and unfounded right to know. The procedures in place are best practices. There are media releases, but they are factual, and not written for entertainment purposes.
July 10, 20188 yr 48 minutes ago, todlad said: More rubbish from someone who clearly thinks he is so smart. This story concerns 12 teenagers and their football coach. Well done to the authorities for trying to protect the health and sensitivities of the kids and their families. Why not talk about pineapples when it is more appropriate. If you think the organisation of this operation is a shambles, I would like you take up the smart offer made here a few days ago of dumping yourself in the cave the boys were in and then organising your own rescue. There is an open offer of $1,000 to help you on your way with that. The OP is about the media. Just too keep you in the frame. I am just repeating what I am reading in the media. You don't have to be smart to read what is written. If you are uneasy about a critique and I see you no nothing about the British Journalist that was forced out of Thailand. Tod it sounds as though you are still on holidays.
July 10, 20188 yr 1 minute ago, Chris Lawrence said: The OP is about the media. Just too keep you in the frame. I am just repeating what I am reading in the media. You don't have to be smart to read what is written. If you are uneasy about a critique and I see you no nothing about the British Journalist that was forced out of Thailand. Tod it sounds as though you are still on holidays. I understood the nature of the message which is why I labelled it inappropriate rubbish. I threw in the bit about you hiding yourself in a cage as a bonus.
July 10, 20188 yr 10 minutes ago, geriatrickid said: There have been photos, media releases and actual video of the rescue released. The media access is managed, but some of the entertainment outlets want to have a scoop. Do you not understand that space and air is at a premium? Every extra body takes up valuable resources. You are demanding that you have your entertainment at the potential cost of someone's life. You do understand that these are children don't you? Are you aware that there are privacy laws in place just as there are in the west. Those laws and concerns are stricter when children are involved. The immediate physical condition and the appearance of those kids is none of your business. You have neither the legal nor the moral right to demand access. When the time is appropriate, information will be released. this kids are immunosuppressed at are at high risk of long term lung damage and infection from lethal disease. Now is not the time to use them for entertainment purposes. They must be quarantined until they are physically stronger. There has been no interference with the right to know. the Thai government is acting responsibly and in the best interests of the children. The kids come before your imaginary and unfounded right to know. The procedures in place are best practices. There are media releases, but they are factual, and not written for entertainment purposes. Agree with you 100% as to the privacy of the boys. And that the Chiang Rai Governor is doing a fantastic job in co-ordinating the rescue efforts. I believe you are based in Bangkok ? Kid. Reports that are coming via foreign media and shown 24 hours on TV in OZ is completely different to what would be reported in the Thai press. I wouldn't get too hedonistic about what some people are asking as they may see two reports that differ and are here asking questions. And most of the world is praying for these survivors. I know my whole family is thinking of them. My friends on Facebook are thinking of them. I got no problem with people asking questions as long as they are not abusive, racist or self-indulgent. From one side of the world to the other things can get mixed up.
July 10, 20188 yr 14 minutes ago, todlad said: I understood the nature of the message which is why I labelled it inappropriate rubbish. I threw in the bit about you hiding yourself in a cage as a bonus. You have very little understanding of the complexities of what is happening. The Thai elite do not like press from overseas coming in and feeding the world what is happening. The northern people are most gracious and humble people. I lived in Chiang Rai some time ago. Tod sounds as though you are just off the boat and have hidden in that cage. You need to get yourself up to speed. I will give you a test: Why is the Governor of Chiang Rai being moved out of his position and onto a lesser province? I will even give you a hint, the Interior Minister. Google that and see what comes up. The people in Chiang Rai want him to stay but this wouldn't have come up if the boys got lost in the cave system. Just trying to educate you.
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July 10, 20188 yr 2 minutes ago, Chris Lawrence said: You have very little understanding of the complexities of what is happening. The Thai elite do not like press from overseas coming in and feeding the world what is happening. The northern people are most gracious and humble people. I lived in Chiang Rai some time ago. Tod sounds as though you are just off the boat and have hidden in that cage. You need to get yourself up to speed. I will give you a test: Why is the Governor of Chiang Rai being moved out of his position and onto a lesser province? I will even give you a hint, the Interior Minister. Google that and see what comes up. The people in Chiang Rai want him to stay but this wouldn't have come up if the boys got lost in the cave system. Just trying to educate you. You can be as patronising as you like but keep your lessons to yourself. i have no interest in your analysis of any governor and minister. I came here to read about the boys and their rescue and resent your hijacking of the thread because you have a little agenda.
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