sanemax Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, possum1931 said: People who steal from their own kind are the lowest of the low, whether it is the small business owner or the ordinary person. That also includes knowingly cheating the girl/guy at the checkout at Lotus, Big C etc. So, its OK to steal things from 7/11, but not OK to steal things from a mom&pop shop ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 58 minutes ago, Trujillo said: So stealing from a big company is okay, but stealing from a small company is not okay? Explain, please... If ie, a lawyer who had taken a huge fee from you for a few minutes of his time, was walking in front of you and dropped his wallet accidently, would you pick it up and give it back to him? I wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Trujillo said: Isn't theft, theft? Or is it okay to steal an expensive car, but not okay to steal an economy car? It's okay to mug and steal from a wealthy person but not okay to mug and steal from a commoner? What sort of mind-warped thinking is this? "Isn't theft, theft?" depends on what way you look at it. If mugging someone means using violence it most certainly is not OK, and neither is stealing from someone because they are wealthy, that someone could be a sportsman or movie star who was brought up as working class. But some capitalist who got rich on the back of the working class, if you can do yourself a turn, fine, but never use any violence or vandalism, or anything that will harm ordinary people. Edited July 20, 2018 by possum1931 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 23 minutes ago, sanemax said: So, its OK to steal things from 7/11, but not OK to steal things from a mom&pop shop ? No, it is not OK to steal things from anyone who has not stolen from you or done you a bad turn. It seems you cannot get the gist of what I am trying to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 As long as I am getting my correct change, I'd stay out of it. Short - term thinking - if the business goes broke because 1/ the cashier is stealing 2/ the owner isn't competent enough to realise it, the thief will lose their job anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Trujillo Posted July 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2018 Quote But some capitalist who got rich on the back of the working class, Not sure what that means, but however you slice it, you are still splitting hairs on theft. You are making a case for a tiered reasoning for theft that in certain circumstances, it's an acceptable practice. Is that like a defense for rape saying she was hot and therefore asking for it? In civilized societies, we live by the rule of law. I'm not aware of any law anywhere that differentiates between victims in theft cases, whereby the thief is considered innocent according to the status of the individual. There is no "justifiable theft." I gather you are not a very wealthy or financially successful individual or you would not be trying to champion a morally indefensible position. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trujillo Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Quote No, it is not OK to steal things from anyone who has not stolen from you or done you a bad turn. You are the one who doesn't get it. We don't live in an eye for an eye legal or moral system. Not sure what a "bad turn" might be, but it's irrelevant. If someone steals from you, that doesn't make your thevery against him acceptable. Or legal. If I own a big company and I catch you stealing and fire you, does that now give you the clearance to slash my car tires and break out all my windows? What system do you think the world lives by? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, possum1931 said: No, it is not OK to steal things from anyone who has not stolen from you or done you a bad turn. It seems you cannot get the gist of what I am trying to say. You previously stated that you would steal a wallet if you were given the opportunity . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trujillo Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Quote You previously stated that you would steal a wallet if you were given the opportunity . You missed the double negative...he will steal from those who have stolen from him or who have "done him a bad turn." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Trujillo said: You missed the double negative...he will steal from those who have stolen from him or who have "done him a bad turn." He stated that he would steal his lawyers wallet and his lawyer would not have stolen anything from him or "done him a bad turn" . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trujillo Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I think he lumps him in with ..."some capitalist who got rich on the back of the working class," which, in his worldview, is a person ripe to be stolen from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, Trujillo said: I think he lumps him in with ..."some capitalist who got rich on the back of the working class," which, in his worldview, is a person ripe to be stolen from. Or some kid that studied at School and did his homework and furthered his education and became successful and who now provides a service that is expensive for those that didnt do too well in school and so its OK to steal from him ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) 20 hours ago, Dumper said: Whether my reasoning was is right or wrong. I feel for the employees of these multinational corporations that pay their employees a pittance. I had no intention of getting involved other than to post here about it. is this what they call 'Tips' in the US? anyways, this activity all goes in hand (hand in pocket) when the masses all live in a cash economy no matter what I buy (and method) I always ask for Receipt - and will wat for as long as it takes, to get it (this drives Thai wife crazy) but that's part of the fun Edited July 20, 2018 by tifino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 1 hour ago, sanemax said: You previously stated that you would steal a wallet if you were given the opportunity . Yes, under that circumstance, now read it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, possum1931 said: Yes, under that circumstance, now read it again. You would steal someones money because you thought that the service that they provided to you was too expensive ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiangMaiLightning2143 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 More reason for Fast Food outlets to invest in machines. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 This may be what he was told to do by the manager or owner; similar to skimming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 20 minutes ago, sanemax said: You would steal someones money because you thought that the service that they provided to you was too expensive ? Can you not grasp the fact that if he done me, I will do him. I should have said I would not have done that if he was an employee, but if he was the boss, and his charges were way over the top as is often the case with lawyers. I'm only really saying that if someone gives me a raw deal and I get the chance for a little retribution then I will take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wake Up Posted July 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2018 19 hours ago, naboo said: I'd encourage the employees to do this to the likes of McD's, BK and KFC. Huge multinationals making money off the back of hard working employees on 310B/day. Especially on the soda stream drinks that cost virtually nothing to pour, are sold on huge mark ups and aren't, in my previous experience working for a large PepsiCo outlet in the UK, monitored for stock 'losses'. Can’t tell you how many guys I saw found guilty and went to prison that share your advice and attitude. Rationalizing theft does not make it anything other than theft. “Take from the man” was the common prison phrase. And whenever you steal you lose a piece of yourself and most times will eventually get caught. Advising or encouraging others to steal is wrong no matter what reasons you come up with to justify your actions. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, possum1931 said: Can you not grasp the fact that if he done me, I will do him. I should have said I would not have done that if he was an employee, but if he was the boss, and his charges were way over the top as is often the case with lawyers. I'm only really saying that if someone gives me a raw deal and I get the chance for a little retribution then I will take it. The Lawyer wouldnt be "doing" you though , he would be charging you for services provided . If you have a query about the cost of the service provided , you should address that issue and not resort to stealing 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 An employee once made me pay at KFC for using the Pepsi fountain for 1 drink. Fine. But she did not include the amount on the bill, made me pay 50 THB off the counter, with no bill for the drink. Is this normal practice ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, sanemax said: The Lawyer wouldnt be "doing" you though , he would be charging you for services provided . If you have a query about the cost of the service provided , you should address that issue and not resort to stealing Sorry Buddy, we will have to agree to disagree, the debate with you on this subject is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumper Posted July 20, 2018 Author Share Posted July 20, 2018 5 hours ago, Peasandmash said: you really don't know anything. you've made an observation and now your making a conclusion based on what? maybe the employee is correcting the till? more importantly get a life, you sound like a loser. Loser huh? Get a life! Both times I paid the correct money, and both times he rang up the incorrect lower price. I didn't name the outlet, or the actual cost of the drink so as to avoid identification. You however have called me a "loser" and "to get a life" because he may been correcting the till. Do you really think that? Let's now put it to the test then. Because of you I will now call the store manager and tell them directly. If he is still there next week, well you are right. If not, then I'll definitely let you know, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Trujillo said: Not sure what that means, but however you slice it, you are still splitting hairs on theft. You are making a case for a tiered reasoning for theft that in certain circumstances, it's an acceptable practice. Is that like a defense for rape saying she was hot and therefore asking for it? In civilized societies, we live by the rule of law. I'm not aware of any law anywhere that differentiates between victims in theft cases, whereby the thief is considered innocent according to the status of the individual. There is no "justifiable theft." I gather you are not a very wealthy or financially successful individual or you would not be trying to champion a morally indefensible position. ?Is that like a defense for rape saying she was hot and therefore asking for it?". What a load of nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtrnuno41 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Had some ripoff experience in Phuket at a 7/11. They charged me for some shopping and i was really watching, the machine said something else then she was mentioning, so i protested. Suddenly the machine had broken down and they couldnt recall it anymore, they said. I protested more and all at a sudden, i got the money back, which i missed, already in the bra from the woman !!! Stay alerte !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Triangle Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) Guy I know had a bakery here, he had a CCTV camera directly above the till/cash register, they still caught a waitress helping herself out of the till, thick as pig poo some of them ? Edited July 20, 2018 by Golden Triangle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ks45672 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 51 minutes ago, possum1931 said: ?Is that like a defense for rape saying she was hot and therefore asking for it?". What a load of nonsense. If she was hot that would be perfect I'd let her Rob the till it she wants to But not for free, obviously ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peasandmash Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) Ks45672 Super Member Advanced Members 1,007 1,256 posts #47 Posted 6 hours ago 6 hours ago, Trujillo said: Wow, welcome to the Land of Smiles...haha I want Peasandmash to start a thread on something...I want to see what a "winner" has on his mind.... Plz We don't need any threads about gay porn lol... dear sheriff taylor and deputy fife, i spend time managing my investments and not with the happenings at the local DQ. and the gay porn i like best is when you two french kiss Edited July 20, 2018 by Peasandmash 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericthai Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 On 7/19/2018 at 9:44 AM, Isan Farang said: You are 100% correct on that one. Unless the company is ruled by a Thai-Chinese family who watch every satang and trust absolutely no-one. Really,??? so only thai chinese run companies are smart enough to prevent employees stealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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