49yo German national with 36 k Baht pension wants to stay for 9 months

[MikeRay]

As my friend speaks little English and it' s hard for him to get someone at the phone at the Thai embassy that speaks German, I have a few questions for him here. He wants to visit a friend, living in Ubon Ratchathani, to stay away from the cold winter in Germany. He won't have costs for  accommodation and will turn 50yo in November. As he is disabled, he want's to travel with his friend end of August, so he hasn't to travel by himself. He doesn't need a wheelchair, but walks on sticks from time to time. Could you please advice him what kind of visa will suit him? And perhaps a health insurance, as he couldn't find one that will cover former illnesses. Thank you in advance

Edited July 25, 2018 by MikeRay

[ubonjoe]

His best option would be a multiple entry tourist visa that will allow unlimited 60 day day entries for 6 months from the date of issue. Each 60 day entry can be extended for 30 days at a immigration office. It is possible to get almost 9 months of total stay by getting a new 60 day just before the visa expires and getting a 60 day extension.

Info is here on the Berlin embassy website: http://german.thaiembassy.de/visaarten-und-erforderliche-unterlagen 

He could also apply at the official consulate in Frankfurt. Or one of the honorary consulates in Munich, Hamburg, Düsseldorf or Stuttgart.

After he is 50 years old he might be able to get a non-o visa.

[MikeRay]

Thank you very much.

 

[jackdd]

Tell your friend to call here: http://www.thai-konsulat-nrw.de/

The person answering the phone is German and very friendly, so no communication problems

[pewe]

As a german i know from experience that medical insurance can be a big pain for him. The normal 'Reisekrankenversicherung' will exclude any preconditions. Also the maximum stay is limited to 42 days.

 

His normal medical insurance (Gesetzl. Krankenversicherung) will not cover him at all while he is in Thailand. And of course he should never travel to Thailand without proper medical insurance!

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[gk10002000]

some of those METV application requirements were a bit tough to satisfy as many asked for income or job information. 

[Maestro]

Some honorary Thai consulates in Germany used to give a multiple-entry non-O visa to recipients of a state pension regardless of the applicant's age and the pension amount, but I don't know if they are still allowed to do this.

[wump]

6 hours ago, gk10002000 said:

some of those METV application requirements were a bit tough to satisfy as many asked for income or job information. 

A pension is income but in this case is not needed anyway. For a multiple-entry tourist visa from a Thai consulate in Germany you only need to show 5,000 euros in the bank, no proof of income or employer letter etc.

I would sort out my insurance though. For sure he will get an insurance policy with a precondition. Depending on what it is it will just be (significantly) more expensive. Ask the usual suspects (ADAC, Allianz, DKV, Ergo, Hanse-Merkur etc.).

[fxe1200]

It also is important to apply for the suspension of the German health insurance, as they will not cover/pay any benefits abroad, except some European countries. He only needs to maintain his statutory nursing care insurance to revive his German health insurance upon his return. The money saved should significantly lower the burden to buy an insurance for Thailand.

Edited July 26, 2018 by fxe1200

[BMW Overlander]

36,000 Baht pension?

How can anyone live month to month on that money?

[UnkleMoooose]

36k per day and you'll have a good life; 36k per week and you'll get by; 36k per month and that's subsistence living. Not enjoyable at all I would imagine.

[Phuket Man]

58 minutes ago, BMW Overlander said:

36,000 Baht pension?

How can anyone live month to month on that money?

???. I take it that was a joke?

Edited July 26, 2018 by Phuket Man

[ujayujay]

1 hour ago, BMW Overlander said:

36,000 Baht pension?

How can anyone live month to month on that money?

Its absolutely possible, except for the ignorant, they will die, if the Budget is under 100k THB/Mt.

[JAG]

1 hour ago, BMW Overlander said:

36,000 Baht pension?

How can anyone live month to month on that money?

Quite comfortably I should imagine.

 

Of course he wouldn't be able to afford a BMW!

Or too many nights out with beer and girls.

 

But as a single man, quite comfortably.

After all, many of us keep a family on around that a month.

[Media1]

1 hour ago, UnkleMoooose said:

36k per day and you'll have a good life; 36k per week and you'll get by; 36k per month and that's subsistence living. Not enjoyable at all I would imagine.

Absolute rubbish

[Media1]

19 minutes ago, JAG said:

Quite comfortably I should imagine.

 

Of course he wouldn't be able to afford a BMW!

Or too many nights out with beer and girls.

 

But as a single man, quite comfortably.

After all, many of us keep a family on around that a month.

Much less and on the see forums I here so much shit flowing. A Thai feeds his whole family 20k and rent. There all fat and plump. Thailand is cheap. A stupid man will always give more

[sawadee1947]

13 hours ago, pewe said:

As a german i know from experience that medical insurance can be a big pain for him. The normal 'Reisekrankenversicherung' will exclude any preconditions. Also the maximum stay is limited to 42 days.

 

His normal medical insurance (Gesetzl. Krankenversicherung) will not cover him at all while he is in Thailand. And of course he should never travel to Thailand without proper medical insurance!

Falsch: He can get health insurance for at least one year (check24.de)

[edwardflory]

I know several SINGLE Thais that live fairly comfortable on 12,000THB a month, and a Thai family of 4 on under 20,000THB.

 

For a FOREIGN → visitor←  with NO housing expenses, and NO medical insurance - (bad idea) with income of 35,000THB per month, he should live a good lifestyle during his tourist →visit← UNLESS medical attention is needed.

 

But if retirement is the overall goal, and he can't meet the financial requirements, seek someone that can give good information before.

[Nong Khai Man]

4 hours ago, BMW Overlander said:

36,000 Baht pension?

How can anyone live month to month on that money?

I Do & On a LOT Less than that.......But EVERYTHING Is paid for,My Only bills are Electricity & Internet....Plu I've got NO Option that's all the U.K Government wants to give me......

Edited July 26, 2018 by Nong Khai Man
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[Nong Khai Man]

3 hours ago, Phuket Man said:

???. I take it that was a joke?

Ahhhhhhhh !! But YOU Live in Phuket, Say NO More....

[maximillian]

15 hours ago, pewe said:

As a german i know from experience that medical insurance can be a big pain for him. The normal 'Reisekrankenversicherung' will exclude any preconditions. Also the maximum stay is limited to 42 days.

 

His normal medical insurance (Gesetzl. Krankenversicherung) will not cover him at all while he is in Thailand. And of course he should never travel to Thailand without proper medical insurance!

 

Central offers travel insurance for up to one year for a reasonable premium.

www.central.de

 

[Paul944]

It will be impossible for him to stay for a period of 9 months in Thailand I think. The longest period will be with a multi entry tourist visa (costs 150 euro) http://german.thaiembassy.de/visaarten-und-erforderliche-unterlagen. But this visa is valid for 6 months so still 3 months missing. It also requires prove of having 5000 euro on a German bank account. He still has to travel 2 times out of Thailand. or 1 time if he can get a visa extension of 30 days 2 times.

 

His pension is not sufficient to qualify for a "longstay" visa you can obtain if older as 50. If he has 20,000 euro savings this type of visa maybe an option after november.

 

Health insurance is best obtained in Germany.

 

My advice, If he can qualify for a longstay visa; go for 2 months on a single entry tourist visa in August and travel back in October. Then if he likes to spend more time apply for a "longstay" visa after becoming 50. Else get a multi entry visa and travel in November so he can stay until May.

 

Note: plane tickets are a lot cheaper if traveling with fixed dates a a return within 2 months

[ubonjoe]

7 minutes ago, Paul944 said:

The longest period will be with a multi entry tourist visa (costs 150 euro) http://german.thaiembassy.de/visaarten-und-erforderliche-unterlagen. But this visa is valid for 6 months so still 3 months missing.

As I wrote in my post on page one it is possible to get almost 9 months of total stay from a multiple entry tourist visa. The visa allows unlimited

60 day entries for 6 month from the date of issue. A entry can be done just before the visa expires to get a new 60 day entry that can be extended for 30 days at immigration. 

[Phuket Man]

Yes 9 months with a multi entry tourist visa. Almost

[Lancelot01]

12 hours ago, UnkleMoooose said:

36k per day and you'll have a good life; 36k per week and you'll get by; 36k per month and that's subsistence living. Not enjoyable at all I would imagine.

Even with free accommodation?

[theguyfromanotherforum]

I honestly thought Germans had one of the best pension plans. Why is his so low?

[pewe]

1 hour ago, theguyfromanotherforum said:

I honestly thought Germans had one of the best pension plans. Why is his so low?

I hope you can read a little bit of German.

Average Pension

This will tell you that the average pension ist around 860 Euro. SS is no paradise even in Germany, but you can get away with it. Average means that there are many people who get more, but also many people who get even less.

[wump]

Exactly. There is plenty of German guys on 600-700 euro pensions in Pattaya and elsewhere. I don't think op will do too bad on his 920 euros pension.

[Phuket Man]

16 hours ago, Nong Khai Man said:

Ahhhhhhhh !! But YOU Live in Phuket, Say NO More....

I do ?????

[Vacuum]

21 hours ago, BMW Overlander said:

36,000 Baht pension?

How can anyone live month to month on that money?

That should be quite easy, as he would not have to pay for his accommodation according to OP.

 

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He won't have costs for  accommodation