German man arrested for NINETEEN year overstay

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German man arrested for NINETEEN year overstay

Pictures: Thai Tourist Police Bureau

 

 

This week’s X-Ray Outlaw Foreigner crackdown has netted what is believed to be one of the longest cases of a foreigner overstaying in Thailand.

 

On Wednesday,  Pol Maj Gen Surachat Hakparn, deputy commissioner of the Tourist Police Bureau announced the arrest of 35 foreigners who were caught for visa offences, illegal entry and other crimes.

 

 

Among those arrested was German national Eugen Karl Mullerschon, 60, who was caught in Trang where he was found to have overstayed for a whopping 7,059 days, almost nineteen years and four months.

 

Other lengthy oversatyers included a Cameroon national George Elvis Nkwi Nkwain, 34, arrested in Lopburi for overstaying his visa for 1,726 days, and Indian national Vinod Yadav, 26, who was arrested in Bangkok after overstaying for 1,295 days.

 

Surachat also revealed that 25 other foreigners were charged with illegal entry in Thailand. Their nationalities included seven from Laos, five from Myanmar, five from India, four from Cambodia, one each from Syria, Egypt, Yemen and Uganda.

 

 

Pol Maj Gen Surachat said the X-Ray Outlaw Foreigner crackdown has so far resulted in the arrest of 1,757 suspects with raids carried out at 4,009 locations across Thailand.

 

Launched earlier this year, the Tourist Police say X-Ray Outlaw Foreigner targets foreign criminals who enter Thailand pretending to be tourists and who are involved in romance scams, drug trafficking and visa overstay.

 

Previously, Tourist Police have raided language schools targeting foreigners who claim to be students on a Non ED visas studying Thai language. The foreigners pay the language schools for the Non ED visa and use it as a way to stay in Thailand long term without ever attending class.

 

-- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2018-07-26

[cornishcarlos]

What a legend.... He should be given PR for his dedication to the cause ?

[Nyezhov]

Good for them !!!!

[colinneil]

Poor old Eugene must be pi++ed only another 8 months and he would have been eligible for a gold watch.?

[ezzra]

Here's an idea, declare a blanket amnesty to all overstayers, get to know who they're, fine then accordingly and renew their visa if they are good people and not a  wanted criminals of fujities of some sort, that way Thailand will show that they're reasonable and forgiving and by doing that they may have the chance to clear the books and start fresh...

[Odysseus123]

7 minutes ago, colinneil said:

Poor old Eugene must be pi++ed only another 8 months and he would have been eligible for a gold watch.?

Just a short break between connecting flights...became lost in transit.

Could happen to anyone,really

Edited July 25, 2018 by Odysseus123

[Darcula]

How is that even possible without the help of locals and BIB? When even to buy a pack of gum you need to provide 3 signed copies of your passport including the page with latest entry stamp.

[Jeremy50]

Nineteen years of laughing at us 'gullible fools' who play by the rules doing visa runs, and renewing our passports every 3 years. Time's up Karl, enjoy your incarceration and trip back to the Fatherland. 

[bluesofa]

OK, I know this is going back twenty years, but when I lived in Nong Khai for a while, I came across quite a few guys with long overstays, who decided it was better to clear them up.

 

There was a horse trainer working in Kanchanaburi illegally with more than five years overstay. A father and son (the father was a Vietnam vet), both of them had been living in the back of beyond illegally for more than ten years.

At the the time, IIRC as long as you surrendered yourself the maximum fine was 10,000 Baht, then straight off to the newly-opened friendship bridge to get stamped out and in again with a thirty-day visa waiver.

 

[lamyai3]

29 minutes ago, Jeremy50 said:

Nineteen years of laughing at us 'gullible fools' who play by the rules doing visa runs, and renewing our passports every 3 years. Time's up Karl, enjoy your incarceration and trip back to the Fatherland. 

I play by the rules, but I still think someone who racks up a twenty year overstay should get some sort of lifetime achievement award. 

[LukKrueng]

37 minutes ago, ezzra said:

Here's an idea, declare a blanket amnesty to all overstayers, get to know who they're, fine then accordingly and renew their visa if they are good people and not a  wanted criminals of fujities of some sort, that way Thailand will show that they're reasonable and forgiving and by doing that they may have the chance to clear the books and start fresh...

Yeah, right. Worked for the Aussies. Twice. 

[alant]

More proof that 90 day reports are essential

[taipan1949]

10 minutes ago, lamyai3 said:

I play by the rules, but I still think someone who racks up a twenty year overstay should get some sort of lifetime achievement award. 

He will. It is called a  "Lifetime Ban".

[taipan1949]

I am curious about how long exactly are these people held before they are actually put on a plane and deported??

[mikebell]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

7,059 days,

Isn't it 500 baht a day 'fine'?  Or is there a maximum negotiable?

[M71]

Onya Eugene - your an Earthling not a German you can stay where ever you want my man - and by the way you don't legally need a passport to travel anywhere - bit a pain on the #** though of course with all the paperwork and delays involved at immigration.

 

Now if Eugene was a Martian I can understand him being "deported" - who wants green people here - I'm not racist, just sayin' 

[lamyai3]

15 minutes ago, taipan1949 said:

He will. It is called a  "Lifetime Ban".

I hope it's gold plated and is mounted on a nice plinth. 

[darksidedog]

Ninteen years is quite impressive, It could make a good title for a song, N-n-n-n-n-nineteen!

Seriously though the current immigration rules leaves over-stayers with little option. Where before you could leave and pay 20,000 and it was clear. Now people cant do that. And before someone harps up about all over-stayers being in the wrong, there are many who have legal issues with the court who end up with overstay often of a couple of years, and get found not guilty at the end. They then need a court order or they are in the same boat. Offering a short amnesty window would probably see a large number of people trying to put themselves into a legal situation once more. I am pretty sure there are many, many more out there with stays like this and probably longer too.

[worgeordie]

What happens if you are on a very long overstay,and you die

does your body get deported !?regards Worgeordie

[lanista]

16 minutes ago, taipan1949 said:

I am curious about how long exactly are these people held before they are actually put on a plane and deported??

He will be held at the IDC in Bangkok until he pays the fine and  the  o/w  TG  flight ticket  to Germany. He wont have to pay anymore than 20K baht or maybe less if he is polite and speaks Thai.

If he has the money now then he can be back in Germany asap. Highly unlikely he has a valid passport so he'll have to wait .

He can legally return to Thailand after paying a lawyer to take him off the blacklist and arranging another  new passport.

Good lawyers are expensive.

I'm betting he'll be legally back in Thailand before Christmas unless he has serious problems in Germany which is why he may of left in 1999.

[Crossy]

Cripes, he was on overstay before I arrived in Thailand.

 

[overherebc]

23 minutes ago, taipan1949 said:

I am curious about how long exactly are these people held before they are actually put on a plane and deported??

Usually taken to IDC and wait a couple of days before going to court and being fined, that might only be 2000 baht. The 20,000 baht may or may not still have to be paid then back to IDC until the air ticket to home country is bought by friends or the overstayer. From IDC it's straight to the airport with ticket, held until flight time, passport given to aircrew, escorted to plane and home.

So time in IDC depends on how long it takes to buy the ticket home.

[Dick Crank]

whats the penalty, deportation? 

must have saved a fortune on that one.

[overherebc]

4 minutes ago, Dick Crank said:

whats the penalty, deportation? 

must have saved a fortune on that one.

Maybe but if you have a car and or a load of valuable stuff at home unless you can find someone to look after it for 10 years its all gone.

Remember you will have no means of contact with anyone when in IDC. If no-one visits you're stuck there.

Edited July 26, 2018 by overherebc

[naboo]

20,000B fine, deportation and a 10 year ban.

 

After 19 years, he probably fancies a change. Not sure why he didn't sort it before the new regulations a year or two ago. 

[JAG]

1 hour ago, Darcula said:

How is that even possible without the help of locals and BIB? When even to buy a pack of gum you need to provide 3 signed copies of your passport including the page with latest entry stamp.

Rather proved what I have suspected all along, no -one actually looks at the reams of copies of passports, immigration forms, and various other varieties of paperwork which we provide for the slightest reason.

Yesterday I wanted to change some B1000 notes for smaller notes to pay the "Tribes of Issan" who have been helping best beloved on the farm.

I went into a bank where I have had an account for 5 years, and had my driving licence copied, and gave them telephone numbers and email address, all solemnly written out , signed dated and countersigned...

 

Girl behind the counter was jolly pretty though...

Edited July 26, 2018 by JAG

[Emster23]

 

"Ninteen years is quite impressive, It could make a good title for a song, N-n-n-n-n-nineteen!"

This tune came to mind...

 

 

Edited July 26, 2018 by Emster23

[Carib]

1 hour ago, Darcula said:

How is that even possible without the help of locals and BIB? When even to buy a pack of gum you need to provide 3 signed copies of your passport including the page with latest entry stamp.

I guess he just doesn't like gum..

 

 

On a more serious note, I hope he doesn't leave behind a wife and kids.

Edited July 26, 2018 by Carib
Serious note..

[Gobbledegook]

50 minutes ago, lamyai3 said:

I play by the rules, but I still think someone who racks up a twenty year overstay should get some sort of lifetime achievement award. 

It's peanuts like this that are the cause of  the harassment that we who abide by the rules have to put up with.

[Expatthailover]

Better late than never.

Every country that attracts people from other countries will have this problem.

Thailand was that bad this expat overstayed for 19 years?