Retired airman and his wife win big lottery prize - but the shop claims fraud

[webfact]

Retired airman and his wife win big lottery prize - but the shop claims fraud

 

Picture: Thai Rath

 

A retired airman and his teacher wife were thrilled when they won second prize in the national lottery. Their three tickets were worth a handy 600,000 baht.

 

But their joy was short lived. When they went to the shop where they bought the tickets the vendor said that they had taken them illegally.

 

They have gone to police to make a claim for fraud.

 

Yesterday Phitsanuloke residents Therdsak Thongchot, 63, and his wife Charoenrat, 56, went to a temple to pay their respects to show their innocence before talking to reporters.

 

Therdsak said he bought the tickets from a lottery vendor near his home near the airport on July 24th. There were three winning tickets that were part of a bigger batch of 13 that he purchased from the vendor.

 

After they won 600,000 baht his wife went back to the store to see if they wanted to buy back the tickets for a discount - a common practice in Thailand that gives the vendor a chance to make some extra cash.

 

But the shop said that the tickets were part of a set of five and should not have been taken in the first place. They claimed fraud saying they had taken three tickets too many.

 

The couple sold the winning tickets to another vendor near the Phitsanuloke station for 591,000 baht.

 

After that the original vendor went to Charoenrat's school to ask what they were going to do about it. They have now filed a complaint with the local police alleging fraud.

 

Police told Thai Rath that the matter was under investigation and no other details were available as they were in the process of talking to both sides in the dispute.

 

Source: Thai Rath

 

 

-- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2018-08-06

[overherebc]

So the original seller knows the numbers of every ticket she sold in singles and twos and fives from memory or what????

[jaltsc]

"Yesterday Phitsanuloke residents Therdsak Thongchot, 63, and his wife Charoenrat, 56, went to a temple to pay their respects to show their innocence..."

 

Well, that settles that. No one would go to a temple under false pretenses and pretend to be innocent of a crime. 

[Thian]

Good that Thailand has no casino's, even a simple lottery gives them loads of problems.

[stanleycoin]

Maybe a case of 

Sour grapes from the lottery seller. 

( a dishonest lottery seller, that would be most unusual in Thailand )

Edited August 6, 2018 by stanleycoin

[worgeordie]

" They claimed fraud saying they had taken three tickets too many."

and those tickets just happened to be winners,that coincidence is

just about as big as winning the lottery.

regards worgeordie

[edwinchester]

Why on earth an electronic lotto hasn't been implemented is beyond me. It would instantly put an end to crap like this and overpriced tickets.

[Get Real]

So, the lottery vendor is a psychic. Because if the people who claim the win, had not been stealing these specific tickets. Then the vendor would have been buying exactly those 3 tickets.

That´s the only reason I can see with this hysterically idiotic claim.

[Wiggy]

26 minutes ago, edwinchester said:

Why on earth an electronic lotto hasn't been implemented is beyond me. It would instantly put an end to crap like this and overpriced tickets.

That's exactly why it hasn't been implemented. We wouldn't want honesty and accuracy ruining things.

[jenny2017]

1 hour ago, overherebc said:

So the original seller knows the numbers of every ticket she sold in singles and twos and fives from memory or what????

Perhaps a computer software does? 

[jenny2017]

1 hour ago, Thian said:

Good that Thailand has no casino's, even a simple lottery gives them loads of problems.

They do have casinos, the ones near Thai borders are actually more for Thais. Always full, already in the morning. I've seen people I know losing hundreds of thousands in minutes. Then they complain about the horrible debts. These teachers.......?

 

Yesterday Phitsanuloke residents Therdsak Thongchot, 63, and his wife Charoenrat, 56, went to a temple to pay their respects to show their innocence before talking to reporters.

 

  You can't make such stuff up, can you? The monk must have decided that they are honest people. Amen. That doesn't sound like showing their innocence to me, exactly the opposite. 

 

    

Edited August 6, 2018 by jenny2017

[cornishcarlos]

What's with the selling back to a ticket vendor at a discount price !!!

Why don't they just claim the prize money the legitimate way ??

Fishy....

[jenny2017]

1 minute ago, cornishcarlos said:

What's with the selling back to a ticket vendor at a discount price !!!

Why don't they just claim the prize money the legitimate way ??

Fishy....

Something doesn't make sense here, you're damn right. Why would somebody give away 9,000 baht? Where's Dr Watson, Sherlock? 

[Bluespunk]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

 

After that the original vendor went to Charoenrat's school to ask what they were going to do about it. They have now filed a complaint with the local police alleging fraud.

 

Should have taken the original offer. 

 

You got greedy, made up a ludicrous story and now have nothing 

 

Which is more than you deserve. 

[jenny2017]

The headline should now be:

 

  Retired airman and his airwoman win big lottery air prize.- ⛔

[evadgib]

7 minutes ago, jenny2017 said:

Something doesn't make sense here, you're damn right. Why would somebody give away 9,000 baht? Where's Dr Watson, Sherlock? 

There's a modest tax applied when winning, even if claiming in person in bkk.  Claimants elsewhere can redeem tickets locally as per this example.

HTH

[jenny2017]

1 minute ago, evadgib said:

There's a modest tax applied when winning, even if claiming in person in bkk.  Claimants elsewhere can redeem tickets locally as per this example.

HTH

Oops, thank you. That makes sense then. 

[evadgib]

1 minute ago, jenny2017 said:

Oops, thank you. That makes sense then. 

Ask me howI know ?

[madmitch]

Not quite as much money involved as the last lottery soap opera but there's probably a couple of week's news available from this one.

 

 

[sammieuk1]

Where's a honest taxi driver when you need one?

[overherebc]

1 hour ago, jenny2017 said:

Perhaps a computer software does? 

 

[Esso49]

1 hour ago, edwinchester said:

Why on earth an electronic lotto hasn't been implemented is beyond me. It would instantly put an end to crap like this and overpriced tickets.

Because the extremely well connected of the 3 main lottery wholesalers give massive kick backs to retain the status quo.

[Somtamnication]

"went to a temple to pay their respects to show their innocence". I do that every time I piss off my wife. 

[greenchair]

Why is there always a teacher involved in the lottery fiasco? ?

[kickstart]

1 hour ago, evadgib said:

There's a modest tax applied when winning, even if claiming in person in bkk.  Claimants elsewhere can redeem tickets locally as per this example.

HTH

The tax is 1 %, so he would have had to pay 6000 baht in tax if he went down the Nonterburi lottery office.

Take buggeration factor into consideration Pit- lock,  Bangkok and back etc, 9000 baht commission to do it locally not such a bad deal 

[mok199]

the best odds in Thailand is still finding a lost wallet full of cash in a meter taxi...we have 3 winners in 7 days...

[crazykopite]

Why win 600 ,000 baht and sell the winning tickets for less that sounds crazy if I won 2 million I wouldn’t dream of selling the ticket for 1.9 million I would want what I had won . Am I missing something ???

[kickstart]

5 minutes ago, crazykopite said:

Why win 600 ,000 baht and sell the winning tickets for less that sounds crazy if I won 2 million I wouldn’t dream of selling the ticket for 1.9 million I would want what I had won . Am I missing something ???

See post#25.

I have won the last 2 numbers on a lottery ticket a few times, 2000 baht, I go back to the ticket seller they take the 20 baht in Tax.off my winnings.

If you do not want to pay tax or anything on your lottery tickets winnings, play the other lottery, the underground one.

Pick 3 numbers to place a 1000 baht stake, you could win 600 000. baht, ask the shop at the end of your Soi for details. 

[Just Weird]

3 hours ago, overherebc said:

So the original seller knows the numbers of every ticket she sold in singles and twos and fives from memory or what????

"...from memory or what????"

Probably from "what".  And that would be that thing known as modern technology that ensures people don't have to rely on their memory for every important thing and risk being ridiculed on public forums for not making use of it.

[Laughing Gravy]

2 hours ago, edwinchester said:

Why on earth an electronic lotto hasn't been implemented is beyond me. It would instantly put an end to crap like this and overpriced tickets.

I agree. but it would be much more difficult to rig and cheat. I have always wondered how much is Catullus spent on lottery tickets. As an exmpl3 the Uk lottery wa 1 pound no now 2. Still people were winning minimal 3 million pound and often more. in Thailand you might win. Ouplenof million Baht if your lucky which is 46 thousand pound. Knowing Thais and how much thy spend on lottery tickets I would love to know where all the money goes. Anyone for a submarine. Lol