Netizens decry school Mothers’ Day activities

[DM07]

45 minutes ago, jak2002003 said:

They don't teach 'groveling'.

 

Waiing, and prostrating is just the same is us farangs bowing our heads, shakig hands etc.

 

It teaches the children respect.  Also to acknowledge and show politeness to somebody (something some kids back home don't do as they are too moody or busy on their phone).

 

Its part of Thai society and culture.

 

Teaches children to be calm and control their emotions and think about things for a moment, rather then running about, screaming and throwing tantrums and doing as they wish with no parental or authority control.

 

You might like you kids do as they please, run about and ignore people who speak to them and not engage in conversation with an adult speaking to them... that is your choice. 

 

 

And that can only be achieved by "disciplining" the kids, making them wai and "respect" "authorities"?!

What a sad way of thinking about education!

Edited August 11, 2018 by DM07

[Chris Lawrence]

Happy mothers day. 

♓

[upu2]

19 hours ago, Somtamnication said:

Pathetic. Even Wai Kru Day is a complete farce. Study, not prostrate!

What a stupid reply. It is nice that children pay respect to their mothers. Maybe you didnt have a mother which would explain a lot

[Neeranam]

14 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

While I may not agree with the poster, why are they not allowed to criticise an event?

Criticizing this school's way of celebrating is OK, or is he criticising what is being celebrated?

[Bluespunk]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

Criticizing this school's way of celebrating is OK, or is he criticising what is being celebrated?

I think the poster I quoted does not believe anything Thai should be criticised no matter what. 

[djayz]

2 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

They don't teach 'groveling'.

 

Waiing, and prostrating is just the same is us farangs bowing our heads, shakig hands etc.

 

It teaches the children respect.  Also to acknowledge and show politeness to somebody (something some kids back home don't do as they are too moody or busy on their phone).

 

Its part of Thai society and culture.

 

Teaches children to be calm and control their emotions and think about things for a moment, rather then running about, screaming and throwing tantrums and doing as they wish with no parental or authority control.

 

You might like you kids do as they please, run about and ignore people who speak to them and not engage in conversation with an adult speaking to them... that is your choice. 

 

 

Quite frankly, I haven't noticed too many kids nowadays - in Thailand or abroad - engaging in conversation with anybody around them - adult or otherwise. They're all to engaged in their smart phones. 

 

Nor have I ever seen any parental control here. Not once! Kids do as they please when they want to. So much to your theory. 

[kannot]

6 hours ago, Jonmarleesco said:

So, had you had a choice ... you wouldn't be here. Is that right?

The choice isnt about "being here" its about forcibly letting your offspring tell you this disguised as "Mothers  day" when in reality its enforcing the hierarchy nonsense starting with the most vulnerable.....children

[lamyai3]

14 hours ago, MaxYakov said:

Are you sure? Maybe so, but also maybe the kids quickly get "brainwashed" the opposite direction (or lose their school indoctrination):

 

Wiki entry for Luk kreung:

 

"In more recent generations, luk khrueng have become accepted and even highly embraced by society, and many luk khrueng have carved out a prominent role in the entertainment industry in which their often-fluent English and their Caucasian features (such as fair skin, larger or colored eyes and tall physique), which are deemed attractive in Thai culture, have proved to be advantageous. Much of the Thai population finds luk khrueng highly attractive because of these features, and within teenage culture, they are also extremely popular.^[6]"

 

Note: The citation [6] for the quotations was a book published in 2001 dealing with "mixed-heritage Asian-Americans".

See also[edit]

• List of luk khrueng people
• Bui doi

Don't be fooled, it's a two tier system. Luk khreung from wealthy families who go to the top international schools and can afford high end universities in the West certainly prosper more than the locals. But those at the poor end of the spectrum (including from broken families) are easily looked down upon and ostracised. It reflects the strange contradiction in how Thais have always related to foreigners, feeling both inferior and superior at the same time. 

Edited August 11, 2018 by lamyai3

[jak2002003]

15 hours ago, djayz said:

Quite frankly, I haven't noticed too many kids nowadays - in Thailand or abroad - engaging in conversation with anybody around them - adult or otherwise. They're all to engaged in their smart phones. 

 

Nor have I ever seen any parental control here. Not once! Kids do as they please when they want to. So much to your theory. 

You are mixing with the wrong people.

 

Where I live the Thai children are taught to acknowledge friends and visitors to their houses, with a Wai, and be polite.  

[djayz]

11 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

You are mixing with the wrong people.

 

Where I live the Thai children are taught to acknowledge friends and visitors to their houses, with a Wai, and be polite.  

I don't mix with anybody, least of all the wrong people! I'm a bit odd that way. It's a wonder I met my missus at all! 

[jak2002003]

35 minutes ago, djayz said:

I don't mix with anybody, least of all the wrong people! I'm a bit odd that way. It's a wonder I met my missus at all! 

All well and good for you, and so you are not an expert on how to raise children.. and so why are you on this thread?  If you are not even having friends with children how can you be saying my theory is no good?

 

 

 

 

 

[MrPatrickThai]

On 8/11/2018 at 4:12 AM, Bluespunk said:

While I may not agree with the poster, why are they not allowed to criticise an event?

It's a very special royal day. very dangerous to criticize such a thing on a public forum.

[MrPatrickThai]

On 8/11/2018 at 7:07 PM, Bluespunk said:

I think the poster I quoted does not believe anything Thai should be criticised no matter what. 

That would be me. You are wrong, I do not think such a thing. However, I despise the Thai bashers here.

[Bluespunk]

2 minutes ago, MrPatrickThai said:

It's a very special royal day. very dangerous to criticize such a thing on a public forum.

I saw no criticism of the royal family. 

 

Maybe you are seeing what you choose to see. 

[Bluespunk]

4 minutes ago, MrPatrickThai said:

That would be me. You are wrong, I do not think such a thing. However, I despise the Thai bashers here.

That would be you. 

 

I shall look for evidence to the contrary...but as yet I’ve seen none. 

Edited August 12, 2018 by Bluespunk

[MrPatrickThai]

4 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

I saw no criticism of the royal family. 

 

Maybe you are seeing what you choose to see. 

Maybe I see what you can't, or blinker yourself not to.

[Bluespunk]

1 minute ago, MrPatrickThai said:

Maybe I see what you can't, or blinker yourself not to.

Nope. 

[baboon]

On 8/11/2018 at 5:25 AM, Samui Bodoh said:

I am with the Netizens on this one.

 

Why does a Mother's day event take place at school? It is 2018 and there are many, many Mothers who have a job; requiring them to take time off work because the school wants to take time away from learning seems stupid to me.

 

And, for those kids whose Mothers can't make it to the school, there is needless humiliation.

 

Celebrate Mother's day at home; you know, where Mom is?

 

Idiots.

 

 

Agreed. I was once summoned to sit on the couch one day. The next thing I knew was baboon, jnr, starting this prostration carry-on while Mrs baboon was taking photos. It was Father's Day and a school requirement, apparently.

 

Needless to say, I felt defiled and actually physically queasy. It was awful. I do not want either myself or my daughter to be subjected to such a humiliating (for both parties) ritual ever again.

 

But at least she had a dad to be photographed with. What about the other kids who might not be as fortunate?

No, I do not approve of ceremonies such as these one little bit. Nice in theory, but not appropriate in this day and age.

Edited August 12, 2018 by baboon

[djayz]

10 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

All well and good for you, and so you are not an expert on how to raise children.. and so why are you on this thread?  If you are not even having friends with children how can you be saying my theory is no good?

 

 

 

 

 

Who are you to ask me - or any other TV member for that matter - what I'm doing on this or that thread?! I have as much right to comment here as you do. Are you the Thread Master? 

 

I've never, in any of my comments, claimed to be an expert on raising children. I expressed an opinion based on my observations. 

[jak2002003]

1 hour ago, djayz said:

 

 

I've never, in any of my comments, claimed to be an expert on raising children. I expressed an opinion based on my observations. 

Yet you basically say you don't socialise with anybody and like to be by yourself.  So you have not even observed what the children do at school on  Mothers day!   So I don't know how you can say these Thai traditions for children on Mothers day are so bad.

 

I would think it strange to go on a thread and comment on a subject I had zero understanding or experience of.

 

 

 

 

[djayz]

5 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

I would think it strange to go on a thread and comment on a subject I had zero understanding or experience of.

... yet here you are... 

[Stargeezr]

Thai  Mothers day is also the Queens birthday, did any of you armchair experts consider that

and some people, including children celebrate the day for the Queen, and not just their

own mother.

Geezer