Trump revokes ex-CIA chief's security clearance, slamming critic

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, UncleTouchyFingers said:

 

I never said it was a landslide. He did win with plenty of room to spare though, thanks to the Electoral College... 

 

 

Well Collusion isn't a crime, we aren't at war with Russia, there was TONS of proven "collusion" going on with foreign countries and people from the DNC against Trump, but hey lets forget all that because Trump is a meanie and hurts your feelings. 

See post #120.

[UncleTouchyFingers]

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

See post #120.

 

Facinating. Someone else said it was a landslide. Someone who wasn’t me. 

 

Are all your posts this mind-numbing? 

[bristolboy]

3 hours ago, mcambl61 said:

 

You mean because of the massive difference the 6 electoral votes of the small in population states of Alaska and Hawaii made when they became states in 1960?

26 presidents have been elected since they became states in 1912. 17 of them performed better than Trump in terms of electoral votes.

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, UncleTouchyFingers said:

 

Facinating. Someone else said it was a landslide. Someone who wasn’t me. 

 

Are all your posts this mind-numbing? 

Yes, you're right. Glad to see you disagree with the landslide statement.

[FritsSikkink]

2 hours ago, UncleTouchyFingers said:

 

That talking point has been beaten to death. If for some crazy reason anyone "needs" Brennans input on anything, it can easily be done. The president has the authority to loop anyone in he chooses. 

That idiot thinks he knows everything better than anyone and doesn't listen to advise.

[Thakkar]

5 hours ago, mcambl61 said:

not in the land of lefty.......

 

 

A lot of the red areas are uninhabited by humans. The entire state of very red Alaska at 660,000 Sq Miles has a smaller population than the 230 Sq miles of the very blue city of San Francisco.

 

That map above would make sense if rattle snakes and coyotes and moose could vote. And, even then, only if they voted for Trump, which being snakes and Coyotes, maybe they would.

[bristolboy]

29 minutes ago, Thakkar said:

 

A lot of the red areas are uninhabited by humans. The entire state of very red Alaska at 660,000 Sq Miles has a smaller population than the 230 Sq miles of the very blue city of San Francisco.

 

That map above would make sense if rattle snakes and coyotes and moose could vote. And, even then, only if they voted for Trump, which being snakes and Coyotes, maybe they would.

Given Trump's environmental policies, he'd lose in a landslide.

Edited August 17, 2018 by bristolboy

[Thakkar]

2 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Given Trump's environmental policies, he's lose in a landslide.

Indeed, but only if they were actual snakes. Metaphorical snakes would vote for him, then join his cabinet.

[farcanell]

On 8/16/2018 at 11:57 AM, mcambl61 said:

dictators are elected?

 

On 8/16/2018 at 3:32 PM, farcanell said:

Hitler was elected.... and was ultimately granted dictatorial powers. It was a process.

 

trump was elected.... and appears to be seeking to gain a position whereby he can act out with impunity.... it is a process

 

one liked nazis... one is enlightened and favors neo nazis ???

 

9 hours ago, mcambl61 said:

false equivalency and really silly

???.... false equivalency? How so?

 

you asked a simple question... I gave an basic answer, providing an example of an elected dictator... I could have pointed at Stalin, who was appointed to the leadership of Russia, but one clear example is enough to answer the question

 

mind you... I think I know what you mean. You don’t like facts, so you cry “ FAKE NEWS”

 

Fact checking is a bit#h.... ????

[FritsSikkink]

8 hours ago, farcanell said:

Fact checking is a bit#h.... ????

Yes, it makes some people sad and confused.

[Thaidream]

This debate on Thai Visa shows just how divided America is on Trump.  I will leave you all with the following points:

 

A.   If Clinton had been elected- and she waas found to have colluded with a foreign power- most of us would have been outraged in the same meaner we will be if Trump has indeed colluded.

 

B.   Most Americans want the investigation to continue- because we want to know whether Donald Trump and/or his minions did indeed collude with Russia to get elected.  I will let the lawyers then determine if collusion is a crime or not.  I will also leave it up to Congress to determine if collusion is an impeachable offense.

 

C.  If Trump is cleared- I will accept it but if he is not cleared- I expect Trump's supporters to also accept that and support the removal of Trump as President.

 

D.  The majority of the media are good and honest people who follow leads and report the news fairly.  There is very little 'fake news'- meaning a news story that is fabricated from scratch and is false.  Unfortunately, Donald Trump deems things that he doesn't like as fake news and so do his supporters.  Without the media acting as a watchdog- there would be much that is said by politicians of all stripes that is not true.

 

This is not about whether I or anyone else likes Donald Trump or his policies.  What this is really about is whether Donald Trump was elected President with the help of Russia and whether he has been compromised either by a Russian plant within his inner circle or Trump himself.

 

The investigation must continue to its conclusion as the stakes are just to high. It's not about Trump. It's about the national security of the US. Let the truth come out!!

[farcanell]

2 hours ago, Thaidream said:

This debate on Thai Visa shows just how divided America is on Trump.  I will leave you all with the following points:

Your points are pretty well on the money.... but your opening comment can be expanded to include the rest of the world, as a lot of posters are concerned (or amused) citizens of allied countries ( maybe non allies as well)

 

trumpists that rant about Obama, or deflect to others who may have done this or that, to try and demonstrate trumps worth vs other presidents, don’t seem to realize that we non US citizens don’t generally care about domestic swamp policy etc, but are instead reacting to how this potus is effecting the world, vs the USA (with a few notable exceptions, obviously)

 

its not nessesarily about tariffs ( my country is not really effected)

its not about crooked Hillary ( my countrymen could care less)

its not about porn stars and pee ( my countrymen would pee laughing)

its not about the wall ( I certainly peed with laughter)

its not about (most ) things domestic.

And its not about republicans, Democrats or whatever... they are all good..., lol... or bad

 

its about his lying, erratic, unilateral, unpredictable behavior..

It’s about the total lack of statesmanship from the position of the worlds supposed pre eminent politician and statesman 

its about a demonstrable lack of respect for his allies

its about attacking hard won concessions.

its about his ability to inflict pain and suffering on others.... yes... other presidents also had that power, but as they were not lying, cheating, erractic narcissists, its not really been a problem before.

 

The bumbling mr bean would be a more reassuring  potus, but he’s not a murican, mores the pity.

 

[mcambl61]

18 hours ago, Thaidream said:

Trump was completely wrong and stupid to do something like this.  He does have the authority to do it but his own words indicated he did it because Brennan and others on his list were involved in the Russia investigation.

 

I got news for Trump- that was their job at the time-

 

If the investigation shows there was no Trump collusion with the Russsians- I will accept that and move on.

 

However, I doubt whether the Trump supporters will accept it if Trump is found to have colluded with the Russians. Tell me I am wrong and you all will accept the  results of the investigation.

hmmm, so 2 years on people can not accept the results of the election, do you really think they will let the collusion delusion go? it does not meet their needs

[mcambl61]

16 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

That idiot thinks he knows everything better than anyone and doesn't listen to advise.

but not you though, you are great

[Thaidream]

2 minutes ago, mcambl61 said:

hmmm, so 2 years on people can not accept the results of the election, do you really think they will let the collusion delusion go? it does not meet their needs

If the Mueller investigation clears Donald Trump of  collusion and/or other  potential crimes- the majority of us that oppose Trump's policies will let it go.  That does not mean all of a sudden I and others will start to 'like' Trump and his polices but it means at least we can accept his election as being legit.

 

The problem lies in the fact that I seriously doubt- Trump's supporters will accept the results of the investigation should Mueller and his team uncover evidence of collusion or other things  that show a possible rigged election.  

 

Remember this- Mueller has no skin in the game one way or the other. His background is impeccable. He has been a lifelong Republican and held high offices in Government.  His job is to determine if there was any collusion involving Russia and the Trump Team or Trump himself.  Trump keeps denigrating Mueller; talking about 'fake news'; trying to shift the agenda to other  things and trying to convince his supporters of the same. If you have nothing to hide- why all the rancor; if there's nothing there- nothing will be found/

 

I don't know if Trump colluded with the Russians and neither do you.  Some of us want to know the truth- not because we hate Donald Trump- but because we want to know if a foreign enemy state has influenced our Presidential election and if there is any quid pro quo and any one else who truly believes in America's security should feel the same.

[utalkin2me]

22 hours ago, Kelsall said:

It was a great movie, but only that.  It wasn't real. It was fiction.

I don't care, fiction or not, I am calling some serious similarities between Colonel Walter Kurtz and Donald Trump. 

 

I can see trump sitting in the oval office by himself now... with a straight razor and a snail on it... "that is my dream, that is my nightmare, to crawl on the edge of a straight razor, and survive". 

[JestSetter]

Brennan is saying that this president has no clothes,

 

Either the Rep. party isn't going to raise a finger and try to win the mid-term elections (with or without  the help of the Russians) or they are going to be called upon by devoted Conservative voters sane enough to see what is going and impeach Trump. The former is eventually going to be so toxic that there won;t be a Rep. party for a decade. 

 

NO ONE acts like this. Not a president. NO ONE should. The USA is going to be hit hard after all of this is said and done. The Russians (and many other countries) are happy to get all of the business that the USA is not going to get from China now. Putin is close to a check mate, He has dirt on Trump. Anyone who thinks he does not is an IDIOT.

 

Btw, the trade war is a bit of a stretch when you know that the USA had a trade surplus with Europe for decades after the war (and thank you for all of those nice cancer-causing cigarettes too, btw). Btw, the CHINESE I-PHONE (since it is construed as being that) accounts for a few dollars for the Chinese, but it counted as Chinese product. We are talking tens of billions of dollars. The American people are being lied to and many innocent US citizens are eventually going to pay for Trump's ill-advised decisions. But Putin is laughing.

Edited August 18, 2018 by JestSetter

[Thaidream]

1 hour ago, utalkin2me said:

don't care, fiction or not, I am calling some serious similarities between Colonel Walter Kurtz and Donald Trump. 

 

Colonel Kurtz and Donald Trump........One is fictional and the other is real......"The Horror!"  "The Horror!"

[mcambl61]

4 hours ago, utalkin2me said:

I don't care, fiction or not, I am calling some serious similarities between Colonel Walter Kurtz and Donald Trump. 

 

I can see trump sitting in the oval office by himself now... with a straight razor and a snail on it... "that is my dream, that is my nightmare, to crawl on the edge of a straight razor, and survive". 

yes, we see you do not care. 

[mcambl61]

https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/255020/how-cia-director-john-brennan-targeted-james-comey

 

 

 

[FritsSikkink]

10 hours ago, mcambl61 said:

but not you though, you are great

The topic isn't about me, so what are you rambling about, can't find any better defense for your cult hero?

[Scott]

Post and replies violating Fair Use Policy have been removed.  

 

[utalkin2me]

5 hours ago, mcambl61 said:

yes, we see you do not care. 

Right, i do not care that it is a fictional character that trump seems to be mimicing the behavior of. Fictional or real, how would it matter either way? 

[TonyClifton]

Brennan voted for a Communist Socialist.  He was put in the Director of CIA by the socialist Obama.  Why did he have a security clearance in the first place?

[simple1]

5 hours ago, TonyClifton said:

Brennan voted for a Communist Socialist.  He was put in the Director of CIA by the socialist Obama.  Why did he have a security clearance in the first place?

Is it a fact that adults in the US believe in the above or in reality such content is posted by trolls?

[mcambl61]

On 8/17/2018 at 10:44 PM, farcanell said:

 

 

???.... false equivalency? How so?

 

you asked a simple question... I gave an basic answer, providing an example of an elected dictator... I could have pointed at Stalin, who was appointed to the leadership of Russia, but one clear example is enough to answer the question

 

mind you... I think I know what you mean. You don’t like facts, so you cry “ FAKE NEWS”

 

Fact checking is a bit#h.... ????

comparing to Hitler is not a basic answer, it is emotional hysteria and delusional.

 

but I am sure you think it is perfectly normal 

[Credo]

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

Is it a fact that adults in the US believe in the above or in reality such content is posted by trolls?

Well, apparently we have some members who have lived lives in which they beyond reproach.   He did vote for a member of the communist party while in University; he told the truth; he passed the lie detector test and was given the necessary security clearances to join the FBI.   He managed to rise to the level of Director.   

 

If this doesn't stick though, wait for them to tell you he is now a Muslim (not ture).   

 

 

 

[NumbNut]

21 hours ago, farcanell said:

Your points are pretty well on the money.... but your opening comment can be expanded to include the rest of the world, as a lot of posters are concerned (or amused) citizens of allied countries ( maybe non allies as well)

 

trumpists that rant about Obama, or deflect to others who may have done this or that, to try and demonstrate trumps worth vs other presidents, don’t seem to realize that we non US citizens don’t generally care about domestic swamp policy etc, but are instead reacting to how this potus is effecting the world, vs the USA (with a few notable exceptions, obviously)

 

its not nessesarily about tariffs ( my country is not really effected)

its not about crooked Hillary ( my countrymen could care less)

its not about porn stars and pee ( my countrymen would pee laughing)

its not about the wall ( I certainly peed with laughter)

its not about (most ) things domestic.

And its not about republicans, Democrats or whatever... they are all good..., lol... or bad

 

its about his lying, erratic, unilateral, unpredictable behavior..

It’s about the total lack of statesmanship from the position of the worlds supposed pre eminent politician and statesman 

its about a demonstrable lack of respect for his allies

its about attacking hard won concessions.

its about his ability to inflict pain and suffering on others.... yes... other presidents also had that power, but as they were not lying, cheating, erractic narcissists, its not really been a problem before.

 

The bumbling mr bean would be a more reassuring  potus, but he’s not a murican, mores the pity.

 

Great perspective from the rest of the world, especially from concerned (or amused) citizens from allied countries as you accurately put it.

 

Bouncing this comment because it deserves it.

 

Shame I can't like this comment a hundred times, so I'll just have to settle for a barely adequate 'Thanks'

 

You're on the money farcanall, or should I say 'Farcanell, you're on the money!'

Edited August 19, 2018 by NumbNut
not enough farcanell's

[Scott]

Troll post removed along with replies.   Continue and face a suspension.  

 

[attrayant]

Brennan voted for a Communist Socialist.  He was put in the Director of CIA by the socialist Obama.  Why did he have a security clearance in the first place?

You don’t have to be a socialist to want your countrymen to have food, water, shelter, education and healthcare. These things are important driving forces of capitalism, because people are more productive when they’re alive.