kwak250 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Just got back from looking at the new Ford Raptor I must admit it looks very pretty BUT... After looking at reviews it is said to be very underpowered. Nearly as thirsty as the old 3.2 but much heavier That said the suspension is obviously awesome which it should be. Off road is where this lives but highway use with 3 people and luggage reviews say it hasn't got the punch . Interior materials don't quite match the price tag . Less than 700kg payload My question is it really worth the 1.7m ? I am sure it would be great fun off road but how many are going to see dirt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Saw one in the showroom yesterday, I've got a Wildtrak that cost, with a few extras, about 1m. When I first went to look at the Wildtrak, I loved it & thought: "Yep, gotta have it" But the Raptor.... ok it looks pretty, interior not special, & at 1.6m plus, just isn't worth it. I thought, hmm, yea, ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEVUP Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 17 minutes ago, Esso49 said: The Ford Raptor in Thailand is just simply for the those Thai morons who think that a Ford Ranger is anything like the F150 produced in the US. The Raptor in the US is a real pick-up with sufficient grunt and technology to lead the field currently. The Raptor in Thailand is nothing short of absolute bulls***t , marketed for numb nut Thais who have zero understanding of the real model and no doubt have a next to zero understanding of the driving ability required in any event. Thank God the real Raptor is not available to moronic Thai males. Agree totally But on every vehicle here I sit in my new model (not a Ford ) & think this has nothing compared to one in a Falang country & costs more In the one I have now it hasn't got a Console, where I see the same model in different countries do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 For that sort of money I would definitely buy the Merc with the proven V6 engine. 260hp to play with and a 0-60mph in 7+ seconds is very impressive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwak250 Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 1 hour ago, transam said: For that sort of money I would definitely buy the Merc with the proven V6 engine. 260hp to play with and a 0-60mph in 7+ seconds is very impressive... Much better choice but probably 2m+ Will Thailand release it here in the next couple of years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 1 minute ago, kwak250 said: Much better choice but probably 2m+ Will Thailand release it here in the next couple of years? I read somewhere 1.8m.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwak250 Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, transam said: I read somewhere 1.8m. just sold my trusty hilux vigo after 11 years and after a new pick-up, that sounds awesome compared to whats available in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, kwak250 said: just sold my trusty hilux vigo after 11 years and after a new pick-up, that sounds awesome compared to whats available in Thailand. If I had the cash I would be knocking at the Merc dealer door....The V6 engine is a gem, and the other Merc stuff involved plus constant 4WD is a wow for me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 17 hours ago, Esso49 said: The Ford Raptor in Thailand is just simply for the those Thai morons who think that a Ford Ranger is anything like the F150 produced in the US. The Raptor in the US is a real pick-up with sufficient grunt and technology to lead the field currently. The Raptor in Thailand is nothing short of absolute bulls***t , marketed for numb nut Thais who have zero understanding of the real model and no doubt have a next to zero understanding of the driving ability required in any event. Thank God the real Raptor is not available to moronic Thai males. Why the insults all over your post. Sorry, I really don't get that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 17 hours ago, Esso49 said: The Ford Raptor in Thailand is just simply for the those Thai morons who think that a Ford Ranger is anything like the F150 produced in the US. The Raptor in the US is a real pick-up with sufficient grunt and technology to lead the field currently. The Raptor in Thailand is nothing short of absolute bulls***t , marketed for numb nut Thais who have zero understanding of the real model and no doubt have a next to zero understanding of the driving ability required in any event. Thank God the real Raptor is not available to moronic Thai males. This is not the USA chap...The LOS populous don't give a shit what the USA has..What is on offer to them in LOS is for them to choose....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LennyW Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Nope!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jitar Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 4 hours ago, transam said: For that sort of money I would definitely buy the Merc with the proven V6 engine. 260hp to play with and a 0-60mph in 7+ seconds is very impressive... 2 hours ago, transam said: I read somewhere 1.8m.. 1.8M and Benz V6 does not sound like any model in LOS I know. Better check your glasses TA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk75 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 1 hour ago, stevenl said: Why the insults all over your post. Sorry, I really don't get that. It's called "I'm old expat and on fixed income that hate it here but can't leave for all the logic in the world" syndrome. "_" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esso49 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 1 hour ago, transam said: This is not the USA chap...The LOS populous don't give a shit what the USA has..What is on offer to them in LOS is for them to choose....? And your point is what exactly. The Thai Raptor is a good buy for Thais ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike324 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Its funny how I read motor forums and websites, folks in the US wants the cheap fords we have here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esso49 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, mike324 said: Its funny how I read motor forums and websites, folks in the US wants the cheap fords we have here! And presumably they only want the one airbag as well perhaps ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, Esso49 said: And your point is what exactly. The Thai Raptor is a good buy for Thais ? Could be if none have had a fun ride experience... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsiaHand Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 That is about $10,000.00 more then the cost of one in the US loaded .and being made in los has to be a lot inferior then one in the US.Being made here by people making about 1/40th of one being made in the US makes the mark up a hell of a lot more also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, AsiaHand said: That is about $10,000.00 more then the cost of one in the US loaded .and being made in los has to be a lot inferior then one in the US.Being made here by people making about 1/40th of one being made in the US makes the mark up a hell of a lot more also. Why is one "assembled" in LOS inferior to one assembled in the USA...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laochef Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 My daughter just bought a 2019 Wildtrack for 1,3 M. it is 99 % the same as Raptor (Thai), except the suspension. It has dual Turbo, 213 Hp, Raptor Front, Mag wheels, flex metal roll back cover, etc., etc. She is very happy with this pickup, and saving 400K ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwill Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 but the more you pay the more social status you have.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 3 hours ago, transam said: If I had the cash I would be knocking at the Merc dealer door....The V6 engine is a gem, and the other Merc stuff involved plus constant 4WD is a wow for me... Ask the VW dealer for an Amarok instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 14 minutes ago, rwill said: but the more you pay the more social status you have.... and less brain cells Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 23 minutes ago, laochef said: My daughter just bought a 2019 Wildtrack for 1,3 M. it is 99 % the same as Raptor (Thai), except the suspension. It has dual Turbo, 213 Hp, Raptor Front, Mag wheels, flex metal roll back cover, etc., etc. She is very happy with this pickup, and saving 400K ! Does that new engine include total failure when changing engine oil over more than 15 minutes or have they fixed that appalling design error yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esso49 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, kannot said: Does that new engine include total failure when changing engine oil over more than 15 minutes or have they fixed that appalling design error yet? Appalling period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esso49 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 28 minutes ago, laochef said: My daughter just bought a 2019 Wildtrack for 1,3 M. it is 99 % the same as Raptor (Thai), except the suspension. It has dual Turbo, 213 Hp, Raptor Front, Mag wheels, flex metal roll back cover, etc., etc. She is very happy with this pickup, and saving 400K ! Is your Daughter Thai ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Esso49 Sowow, with your acerbic comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattd Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 1 hour ago, laochef said: My daughter just bought a 2019 Wildtrack for 1,3 M. it is 99 % the same as Raptor (Thai), except the suspension. It has dual Turbo, 213 Hp, Raptor Front, Mag wheels, flex metal roll back cover, etc., etc. She is very happy with this pickup, and saving 400K ! 400k would buy her some serious suspension and some change, Raptor is overpriced, will be interesting to see how well it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon4637435435 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 ill pass. anything that big shy of 350hp is dangerous in my book. i want power to get out of trouble. theres nothing worse than an underpowered car with all weight up front. oversteering will see you in a tree, ditch or whatever regarsless of how good a driver you are regardless of fancy stay safe stuff which a lot of the time makes things worse. this model is embarassing and only for suicidal thais. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiFelix Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 3 hours ago, stevenl said: Why the insults all over your post. Sorry, I really don't get that. Because its true. A retired friend bought a Ford Ranger for his wife a few months ago. He has had cars all his life. He first said he just wanted to buy a second hand Toyota pick-up because he found them very reliable. Unfortunately he is one of these poor guys who wont argue with his wife and just says "up to you" and hands over the money. Next thing they show up in a horrible bright red coloured Ranger. When we asked why the Ford he shrugged his shoulders and answered that his wife liked them because she thought they looked bigger than any other pick-up in the village and she loved the red colour because you cant miss it?? I must say he has had a lot of use out of it running back and forward to the Ford dealer for repairs!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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