Return to Thailand without Re-entry permission

[Gerd Schuessler]

What needs to be done if one wishes to return to Thailand without the re-entry authorization but valid residency (retirement) until February 6, 2019?

[GLewis]

Your visa or extension to stay is no longer valid if you left Thailand without a re entry permit. You will have to start all over again.

[ubonjoe]

It is only a re-entry permit to keep your extension valid. It is does not mean you cannot enter the country without it.

Your extension will be longer valid it you enter without a a re-entry permit. You would only get a 30 day visa exempt entry if you qualify for one.

[balo]

Another question , what happens if you have a re-entry stamp, but Thai officer at the border ignores it ? I will be crossing by land (Poi pet) , and the bus company collect all the passports. 

[ubonjoe]

6 minutes ago, balo said:

Another question , what happens if you have a re-entry stamp, but Thai officer at the border ignores it ? I will be crossing by land (Poi pet) , and the bus company collect all the passports. 

One thing to help it not happening is to put your re-entry permit number in the space for a visa number on the TM6 arrival card.

If it did happen you would have to go to immigration to get the error corrected.

[Gerd Schuessler]

20 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

It is only a re-entry permit to keep your extension valid. It is does not mean you cannot enter the country without it.

Your extension will be longer valid it you enter without a a re-entry permit. You would only get a 30 day visa exempt entry if you qualify for one.

This 30 days exempt can be extended up to 3 months? 

[ubonjoe]

5 minutes ago, Gerd Schuessler said:

This 30 days exempt can be extended up to 3 months? 

A visa exempt entry can only be extended for 30 days.

You could apply for a new 90 day non immigrant visa (category O) entry and then during the last 30 days of the 90 day entry apply for a extension of stay based upon retirement. Requirements for the visa application is here. https://www.immigration.go.th/content/service_80

[Gerd Schuessler]

33 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

A visa exempt entry can only be extended for 30 days.

You could apply for a new 90 day non immigrant visa (category O) entry and then during the last 30 days of the 90 day entry apply for a extension of stay based upon retirement. Requirements for the visa application is here. https://www.immigration.go.th/content/service_80

Where to apply for the 90 day non emigration visa? At this moment I am living in Da Nang Vietnam....how will that done in praxis? 

[Gerd Schuessler]

25 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

A visa exempt entry can only be extended for 30 days.

You could apply for a new 90 day non immigrant visa (category O) entry and then during the last 30 days of the 90 day entry apply for a extension of stay based upon retirement. Requirements for the visa application is here. https://www.immigration.go.th/content/service_80

the link you provided is in Thai language. It seems that the Thai consulate in Ho Chi Minh only accept applications from Vietnamese nationals....

 

[ubonjoe]

20 minutes ago, Gerd Schuessler said:

Where to apply for the 90 day non emigration visa?

At a immigration office here in Thailand if you entered the country on tourist visa or visa exempt.

5 minutes ago, Gerd Schuessler said:

the link you provided is in Thai language. It seems that the Thai consulate in Ho Chi Minh only accept applications from Vietnamese nationals....

Click on Eng at top right side of the page.

There is not much info a about getting a non-o visa on the consulate or the embassy in Hanoi websites. They may issue a single entry non-o visa for being 50 or over. You should contact them about it.

[Tanoshi]

9 minutes ago, Gerd Schuessler said:

the link you provided is in Thai language.

Select 'Eng' language from the top right hand side.

 

DOCUMENTS TO BE SUBMITTED IN SUPPORT OF THE APPLICATION FOR VISA OR VISA STATUS ALTERATION (NON-O): FOR RETIREMENT PURPOSES.

The application must be submitted more than 15 days before visa expiration and, in case of overstaying in Thailand, application could not be submitted. 1.1 Form TM.86 for the foreigner, who has Tourist and Transit Visa and applies for Visa Status Alteration and applies for non-immigrant visa; or 1.2 Form TM.87 for the foreigner, who enters into Thailand without visa, but is allowed to stay in Thailand with a permit of stay for a period of 15 day, 30 days, 90 days and applies for non-immigrant visa. A copy of passport pages (for example, personal information page, last entries stamp, visa sticker and extension stamp (if any) and departure card (Form TM.6)) Either one 4x6 cm photograph or one 2 inch size photograph Application fee of Baht 2,000 5.1 A guarantee letter from the bank in Thailand in Thai language (Attention: Immigration Commissioner)* 5.2 A copy  of all entries of the applicant’s passbook showing that the applicant has a savings or fixed deposit account  of not less than Baht 800,000* (all documents must be in the Applicant’s name). 5.3 Evidence of foreign currency fund transferred to Thailand* *(Documents under 5.1, 5.2 and 5.3 must be issued and updated to be the same date of the Application and all documents must be in the Applicant’s name.)or A guarantee letter from the local or overseas Embassy or Consulate, proving the monthly pension of the Applicant not less than Baht 65,000 per month (together with reference documents showing the source of said monthly pension); or Evidence of deposited money under Clause 5 and evidence of income under Clause 6  (for one year) showing the total amount not less than Baht 800,000

Remarks 1. The Applicant must appear in person every time. 2. The Applicant must sign to certify on every page of the Applicant’s documents. 3. To be convenient and for speedy service, the Applicant for visa or visa status alteration must arrange and submit a complete set of documents in proper order and must prepare the originals as proof. 4. For more details, please visit our website at http://bangkok.immigration.go.th

[Gerd Schuessler]

Just now, ubonjoe said:

At a immigration office here in Thailand if you entered the country on tourist visa or visa exempt.

Click on Eng at top right side of the page.

There is not much info a about getting a non-o visa on the consulate or the embassy in Hanoi websites. They may issue a single entry non-o visa for being 50 or over. You should contact them about it.

ok. understand. I will enter Thailand with a tourist visa and will request at immigration in Thailand a 90 day extension. From there is the same procedure as I did it before for my retirement visa...please confirm...

[Tanoshi]

1 minute ago, Gerd Schuessler said:

ok. understand. I will enter Thailand with a tourist visa and will request at immigration in Thailand a 90 day extension. From there is the same procedure as I did it before for my retirement visa...please confirm...

You can only get a 30 day extension, there are no 90 day extensions.

[ubonjoe]

Just now, Gerd Schuessler said:

ok. understand. I will enter Thailand with a tourist visa and will request at immigration in Thailand a 90 day extension. From there is the same procedure as I did it before for my retirement visa...please confirm...

Yes you will apply at your local immigration for a 90 day non immigrant visa entry (it is not a extension).

Then you would apply for an extension (it is not a visa) based upon retirement. Same procedure as you did before.

[Gerd Schuessler]

7 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Yes you will apply at your local immigration for a 90 day non immigrant visa entry (it is not a extension).

Then you would apply for an extension (it is not a visa) based upon retirement. Same procedure as you did before.

I understand that. The confusion comes because you apply the correct terms but the average person interested to live in Thailand thinks in a practical terms not in the correct linguistic differentiation. Thank you anyhow for your kind help...

 

[NanLaew]

39 minutes ago, Gerd Schuessler said:

the link you provided is in Thai language. It seems that the Thai consulate in Ho Chi Minh only accept applications from Vietnamese nationals....

 

FWIW, my Austrian buddy just got a 1-year, muti-entry 'O' visa at the Thai Consulate in Ho Chi Minh on the grounds of marriage to a Thai.

[GroveHillWanderer]

11 minutes ago, Gerd Schuessler said:

I understand that. The confusion comes because you apply the correct terms but the average person interested to live in Thailand thinks in a practical terms not in the correct linguistic differentiation. Thank you anyhow for your kind help...

 

The thing is that in practical terms it does make a difference and that could be quite a significant difference. Knowing whether you're applying for a visa or an extension is important because it involves filling out a different form and having to fulfil different requirements in each case.

[Gerd Schuessler]

7 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

The thing is that in practical terms it does make a difference and that could be quite a significant difference. Knowing whether you're applying for a visa or an extension is important because it involves filling out a different form and having to fulfil different requirements in each case.

It makes a difference if you say you cannot extend a 30 tourist day visa without explaining immediately that instead you can apply for an 90 day extension at the immigration office in Thailand...the officer at the immigration are used to the confused applicants, usually checks your passport and hands over to you the right format for guidance and application (this happens at least in Pattaya). once again thanks...

[Tanoshi]

3 hours ago, Gerd Schuessler said:

It makes a difference if you say you cannot extend a 30 tourist day visa without explaining immediately that instead you can apply for an 90 day extension at the immigration office in Thailand..

You may confuse the Immigration officer as to what your trying to achieve if you ask for a 90 day extension.

You'll be apply for the 90 day Non Imm O Visa, then within the last 30 days of that Visa you can apply for the 1 year extension based on retirement.

 

The retirement extension is not a Visa, it's a permit.

Basically your extending your permission to stay from the Visa expiry date.

Because it's a permit and not a Visa you need a re-entry permit if you intend to exit/re-enter Thailand.

But I guess you've found that out the hard way.