1FinickyOne Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Respect, politeness and patience on both sides goes a long way in any culture... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Muzarella said: If this is a serious program, with Thai and Farang therapists working together, may be very useful and appropiated. Many Thai-Farang marriages and relationships of every kind are failing for the differences in culture and understandings. Therapists, therapists who needs bloody therapists, just give the wife a good slap every now and then keep her in line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmrichsw Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Which brain needs to be in gear to learn anything here -555555+++ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Media1 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 3 hours ago, 4MyEgo said: What will they be learning, when Mumma, Pappa and Buffalo sick, farang must give money ? That's how it is. With the poor anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiguzzi Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 3 hours ago, webfact said: Gen. Anantaporn Kanchanarat, minister of Social Development and Human Security, left, greets Farang and Thai attendees at the opening of the Thai Daughter-in-Law, Farang Son-in-Law Clinic Wednesday in Khon Kaen. Jesus wept! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterb17 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 53 minutes ago, Jingjock said: Could be gods waiting room Agree - it could be God’s waiting room - but if you have money and are not concerned about the blood sucking family waiting for the lawyer to open the envelope containing the will- there could be worst places to live out your twilight years ? But do not leave your brain at the airport and be careful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolgeoff Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 really i can only imagine what they learn both parties.you pay for everything i sit do nothing look after me too like my parents and kids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newatthis Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Dogmatix said: “Families that encourage their daughters to marry foreigners hope their family’s status will improve,” Leartpanya said. “But many women are scammed; they don’t get the comfortable life they hoped for. Some are abused, prostituted or trafficked.” And that's in house before they get married. not the foreigner's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon4637435435 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 youve got to be joking. And people actually attend?. can someone pinch me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextStationBangkok Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 hour ago, peterb17 said: What has this pic got to do with Thailand - these are American ( in America) May be their son is married to a Thai.....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Don't they also advise farangs on how to avoid possible scams, lies and deceptions perpetrated by their Thai wife and her family, or is it only one way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontoearth Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 5 hours ago, wwest5829 said: Recommended reading, “Thai Fever”. Opposing pages referring to an issue with one page in Thai, one in English. One of the books to help introduce differences in cultural outlook. That is an excellent book. It really gives a fair and accurate representation of how your relationship will work and what to expect. If you read thru the book and realize you can't do all of this then walk away! If it all seems doable then you really have a shot at this kind of relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smew Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Give money all the time without any excuses ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickconti Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Yeah anti scamming lesson theory at first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 3 hours ago, connda said: So, my question immediately becomes: "Who are the supposed 'subject matter experts' who will be teaching this and what sort of credentials do they have?" The article is top-heavy with words such as "scam", "abuse", "trafficked", "prostitution", scam, problems, scam.....which implicitly is saying: "Beware!!!" What is really being discussed? "Watch out for bad farangs! You've been warned?" Then the article goes on to say that "various women overseas have reported being abused or at risk: 7,457 in Asia, 495 in Europe, 210 in North America, 172 in Oceania, 58 in Africa and 12 in South America." Hummm ? Strictly speaking 'farangs' only comprise those 495 in Europe and 210 in North America. The rest are Asian or African - therefore actual 'farangs' only comprise 9% of these 'at risk' scenerios. Thank you Khon Kan from protecting your daughters from us evil farang. What's the purpose of this educational seminar? Looks like a smear campaign geared to frighten Thai women married to foreigners, but we'll just refer to all the potential 'abusers' as Farang! If this road show comes to our neck of the woods we'll make sure to miss it. For all the good that we do for our families and communities here in Thailand, we are consistently assailed as always being potentially bad, bad men just one step away from committing a crime. But their own stats show that abuse is magnitudes more likely to occur in an Asian-Thai relationship. Perhaps they should rename their seminar: Asean Marriage Training Clinic - How not to be abused by your Asian partner. It would be a better fit. And it would get away from farang-bashing. I find the premise that this clinic to be based on as offensive toward farang, which it's probably meant to be. Seems I should have read the full article which was represented by only a headline and 4 lines of text, before suggesting that we give them a thumbs up for trying. However I was so incensed by the number of Thai basher (type) replies that I jumped in based on the tenor of replies from forum members that had probably not read it either. If they had I would have expected their comments to match yours. But I was wrong! My change of opinion is based as is yours on the content as reported in the article. It remains to be seen if we should blame the content of the course or the journo for the selected parts which focus on us nasty farang husbands who it seems are all beating, trafficking or prostituting our wives. It is possible that these items were quoted out of context and not representative of core seminar material. But if that was the general tone and thrust of the course then the bias is so bad that if I had been attendee, I would have walked out. Let us hope for some input from a few attendees and hope that it was not all outrageous xenophobic farang bashing. I know a few guys married to Thais and none of them are like that. I certainly am not. I won't even give them a star for finishing their homework unless some attendees tell us that the Journo only picked the contentious parts out for shock-horror news and the rest of the course was constructive and fair. Your comments abuse by racial group is very to the point. And a point apparently NOT mentioned in the course is that there are so many foreign (not Farang) marriages because Isaan women seem to be disproportionately represented in the sex and (entertainment industry) in tourist centres and that is how so many Isaan women meet their husbands. I will be watching this space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 A post containing Thai language has been removed as well as a reply. Off topic posts, troll posts and the replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Interesting reading all the comments here. I went to something similar about a year ago, but it wasn’t billed as a “Farang Marriage Training Clinic”. As per usual the organisational skills were extremely last minute. My wife received a phone call from someone else in the next village to say we had to attend a meeting for Thai/foreign married couples organised by the government. It was literally we needed to go ‘now’! We were doing nothing else, so it wasn’t a problem, and I was interested in what it was all about anyway. The meeting was in an open sala. There were three Thai/ferang couples who had turned up. We were grossly outnumbered by a couple of officials from the Ministry of Social Development and Human Security who had organised it, the pu-yai ban, and various interested/nosy locals. A dozen or more of them. It began with one of the officials explaining in Thai and English that the department were concerned about the welfare of both sides in the marriage. Yes, they touched on Thais having problems with a foreign husband and what could be done to help, but they also asked the same of the foreigners too with their Thai wives. They asked the Thai wives to introduce themselves and the ferangs also, for which translation was provided both ways. Towards the end, some of the locals asked questions about what the ferangs thought about living in Thailand. It was a reasonable conversation over about an hour or so. After the meeting was over, because I had answered my questions directly in Thai that the locals asked, the school principal came over and asked me in Thai if I would be interesting in helping their school kids with their English, thorough 'informal' conversational practice. He said I would also be able to explain in Thai some of the English phrases to the kids. He said it was a voluntary thing and I wouldn’t be paid. I told him I would love to do it, as long as the school provided me a work permit. He had no idea about that, so I then had to explain to him that even though I wasn’t being paid I still needed a WP, and had to explain to him why. Not surprisingly it was the end of that conversation, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackin1960 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Do they do trade in's? I got one that I would swap for some peace and quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CableTV Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 9 hours ago, wwest5829 said: Recommended reading, “Thai Fever”. Opposing pages referring to an issue with one page in Thai, one in English. One of the books to help introduce differences in cultural outlook. Great recommendation by wwest5829 as Thai Fever is an excellent book for Farangs. I learned much about myself & my family from reading this book as well as about Thai customs. It seems like a "Juicy" novel by the cover, but is packed with insights into both cultures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEVUP Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, CableTV said: Great recommendation by wwest5829 as Thai Fever is an excellent book for Farangs. I learned much about myself & my family from reading this book as well as about Thai customs. It seems like a "Juicy" novel by the cover, but is packed with insights into both cultures. I showed this book to my ex BIL GF many yrs ago Didn't like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracas Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Day 2 of the training class: Lesson 1. How to get the Farang to buy a new pickup for the...….We will refer to him as the "BIL". Would be nice to see a copy of the training course plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Congratulations to this splendid business idea; we shall see if and how many takers there are. I also wonder, what the General REALLY thought......... The bloke in red must have had a hell of a good time and lots of nice things to say about ......... nah, how stupid of me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 16 hours ago, Boon Mee said: Whatever aids in the cross-cultural understanding between Farang and Thai, I am all in favor of. I can't believe I just gave a " like" to someone who uses a picture of Trump as his avatar but after reading two pages of replies I have to admite that the above reply is spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Paul Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 One question springs to mind, I wonder if the Thai ladies would life it if they also had to prove they were single with no other wives etc hidden in the background, would they all want to then marry. Surely the one thing that lets many of these relationships fall down is the lack of HONESTY, ,more so from the Thai partner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPI Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 17 hours ago, wwest5829 said: Recommended reading, “Thai Fever”. Opposing pages referring to an issue with one page in Thai, one in English. One of the books to help introduce differences in cultural outlook. If you read the book before coming here you would not have come! They tried this in Phrae about 7 years ago....lasted about a week! Farang don't like to do things together! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicowoodduck Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 My bet is that those old farts in the photo have been paying out the BIG $$$$$ for years to keep the local family happy......??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 38 minutes ago, Khun Paul said: One question springs to mind, I wonder if the Thai ladies would life it if they also had to prove they were single with no other wives etc hidden in the background, would they all want to then marry. Surely the one thing that lets many of these relationships fall down is the lack of HONESTY, ,more so from the Thai partner. I think sometimes the lack of honesty is a fair comment. As the poster who attended one of these meetings (post #50), I didn't mention that at the end of the meeting the Ministry of Social Development and Human Security gave each couple a payment of 600 Baht to cover their expenses, which was good of them (unless it was supposed to be 1,000 Baht and some official kept back 400 Baht each time - ha ha!) A few weeks later we bumped into one of the other couples who had been at the same meeting. During the conversation, I made the mistake of asking the husband if they had collected their 600 Baht at the end of the meeting. The guy immediately laid into his wife, demanding to know about it. She sheepish admitted she had been given the 600 Baht, which he took from her and pocketed. I felt really bad, as I mentioned it innocently. My wife said afterwards that the guy was apparently well-known for being extremely tight with money, hence the reason his wife said nothing to him about it. To me that seemed to be a lack of honesty and trust on both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry15 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 18 hours ago, wwest5829 said: Recommended reading, “Thai Fever”. Opposing pages referring to an issue with one page in Thai, one in English. One of the books to help introduce differences in cultural outlook. That book is a scam. Written for the naieve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzupnow Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 19 hours ago, 4MyEgo said: What will they be learning, when Mumma, Pappa and Buffalo sick, farang must give money ? ever so true nothing good can come of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryAdriaenssens Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 It's getting weirder and weirder on this planet (certainly in Thailand!) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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